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A62284	The reformation of the Church of England justified according to the canons of the Council of Nice, and other general councils, and the tradition of the Catholick Church being an answer to a paper reprinted at Oxford, called (The schism of the Church of England) demonstrated in four arguments, formerly proposed to Dr. Gunning and Dr. Pearson the late bishops of Ely and Chester, by two Catholick disputants, in a celebrated conference upon that point : in which answer the unworthy and false dealings of the papists are shewed, and the charge of schism returned upon them, and the Church of England proved truly Catholick and apostolick in her doctrine and constitution / by Dr. Saywell.	Saywell, William, 1643-1701.	1688 (1688)	Wing S804; ESTC R34023	26,158	36

Cambden who wrote the Annals of those Times The Account that he gives us is this that the Number of Ecclesiastical Promotions was 9400 of all which only 80 Rectors of Churches 50 Prebendaries 15 Presidents of Colleges 12 Archdeacons 12 Deans and six Abbots were turned out in all 175 most if not all of them very likely put in unjustly in Queen Maries Days or else chosen out particularly for their known Obstinacy and Humour in contending for the Errors of the Church of Rome And yet what a poor handful they were to the rest which were above 9200 who did Return to Lawful Settlement of the Church in King Edward's Days and the true Canonical Bishops then remaining who concurred in Ordaining Archbishop Parker and other Bishops restoring and setling the Reformation God Almighty in his due Time put an end to all those immoderate Heats and Contentions and inspire Papists and other Dissenters with that Charitable and Peaceable Temper which always eminently appeared in the true Catholicks of the Church of England And let all those that heartily desire the Advancement of Religion and the Salvation of Mankind consider that the way to promote the Glory of God and the Peace and Unity of the Church is not to carry on secular Designs to impose the private Opinions of the Council of Trent and Roman Schools nor yet the Fanatical Devices of some Modern Reformers but by maintaining the truly Ancient and Apostolick Faith Devotion and Discipline delivered and recommended to us by the Word of God and Example and Authority of the Primitive and Catholick Church which is and can be observed no where in greater Perfection than in the Church of England as is Established by Law. THE END Concionatores imprimis videbunt ne quid unquam doceant pro concione quod à populo religiosè teneri credi velint nisi quod fit consentanen̄ doctrinae Peteris Novi Testamenti quodque ex illa ipsa doctrina Catholici patres veteres Episcopi collegerint Now their sense does no where appear more undoubted than in the decrees of General Councils and in the Practice and Tradition that was generally allowed in the Primitive Church Synod Lond. A. 1571. C. Concionatores Firmil Ep. ad Cypr. inter Ep. Cypr. n. 75. Contra Ep. Step. Papae Eos qui Romae sunt non ea in omnibus observare quae sunt ab origine tr●adita frustra Apostolorum auctoritatem pretendere Vide Concil Trull Can. 13. can 55. Where the Church of Rome is commanded by name to amend some Errors which yet she has never done so the Church did not think the Bishop of Rome had authority to give Laws to her but was himself bound to submit to the Canons and the Order of the Church See the Subscription to a Book called the Institution of a Christian Man. Institut of a Christian Man. Londini in aedibus Thomae Bertleti Regii impressoris A. 1537. p. 47 48. Acts Mon. v. 2. p. 346. dedicated to the King H. 8. by Thomas Archbishop of Canter and Edward Archbishop of York and all other Bishops and Prelates and Arch-deacons of this Realm Can. Apost 34. Concil Nicen. c. 4. 6. Concil Antioch c. 9. Con. Const. p. 1. c. 2. Con. Eph. c. 8. Con. Calced c. 28. See the Popes Oath dist 16. c. 8. sancta octo c. See Dr. Heylin's Reform Vindic. Dr. Burnet's Hist. of the Reform part 2. book 1. p. 195. Coll. of Record pag. 209. n. 55. Qui undecennium primum meminerunt Regínae Elizabethae haud quicquam eomitius vel romissius fuisse praedicabunt Decimo tertio demum anno biennio scilicet post quam Pius 5. Bullam hu● sua●● parum piam misisset atque ex ea boreales illae turbae extitissent paulo tum facta commotior ut par erat statuere cepit contra bullas tabellarios sed praeterquam in eos nihil superstitionis vestrae causa sancitum est durius c. audi Philopatrum ipsum Jesuitam Reginam de regni sui initiis sic alloquentem Dum initio Regni tui mitius aliquanto cum Catholicis ageres dum nullum adhuc vehementissimè urgeres nullum admodum premeres vel ad sectae tuae participationem vel Fidei antiquae abnegationem omnia sane tranquilliore cursu incedere videbantur nec audiebantur magnae querelae nec insignis aliqua dissensio aut repugnantia cernebatur nec deerant quanquam male qui Ecclesias vestras ut vobis placeant ac gratificarentur corpore saltem etsi non animo frequentabant legi● hic Jesuitico atramento depicta puta minus hic dici plus intelligi Bishop Andrew's Torturâ Torti p. 148 149. Ita religio in Anglia mutata orbe Christiano mirante quod tam facile sine 〈◊〉 Cambden Elizab. p. 36 39. Ex hac religionis mutatjone ut observarunt politici Anglia facta est omnium reguorum in orbe Christiano liberrima oputentior quam secrdis superioribus p. 40. Vid. Bull. Pontif apud Combd p. 179. Synod Lond. An. 1603. c. 30. Tantum aberat ut Ecclesia Anglicana ab Italiae Galliae Hispaniae Germaniae aliisve similibus Ecclesiis voluerit per omnia recedere quic quid eas sciret tenere aut observare ut quod Ecclosiae Anglicanae Apologia profitetur cenemonias illas cum Reverentia susciperet quae utra Ecclesiae incommodum hominum sobriorum offensionem retinere posse senserat in iis tantum articulis à praedictis Ecclesiis dissentiret in quibus eadem ipsae tum à pristina sua integritate prius desciverant tum etiam ab Ecclesiis Apostolicis à quibus proseminatae sunt That is we only separate from and reform their Errors but do not separate from their Persons and Communion See how the Church of England does Communicate with all Churches in the Vindication of Bishop Gunning the late Lord Bishop of Ely by Dr. Saywell in his Evangelical and Catholick Unity pag. 302 c. Guide in Controversy dis 3. c. 8. n. 84. B. Churches Coordinate may without Schism or fault differ from one another or one of them from all the rest in several Doctrines and Opinions c. Thus he vindicates the Church of Rome wherein it differs from the Greek and other Churches and by the same Reason other Churches may differ from her without Schism or Fault Heb. 13. 17. Firmil inter Ep. Cypr. 75. de Stephano Epis. Romano ait peccatum verò quam magnum tibi exaggerasti quando te à tot gregibus scidisti excidisti n. teipsum noli te fallere Siquidem ille est verè Schismaticus qui se à Communione Ecclesiasticae unitatis apostatam fecerit dum n. putas omnes à te abstinere posse solum te ab omnibus abstinuisti S. Cyprian did joyn with Fermilian in the same Cause and it was thought by them in those early Days that there was no Obligation to adhere to the

give no right to the Bishops or Authority to the Decrees they ordained and tho' all the Art and Cruelty imaginable was used to cut off a future Succession by burning imprisoning and banishing the Lawful Bishops yet it pleased God so to order it that the major Part of the Lawful undoubted Bishops who were made in King Edward's Reign and which lived till Queen Elizabeth's days joyned again in continuing the Succession of Bishops and restoring the Reformation settled in Convocation which has been preserved without Interruption to this very Day And those Bishops that were set aside in Queen Elizabeth's Reign were either justly deposed in King Edward's Days and never rightly restored or else were ordained by them who had no Authority to give them Jurisdiction in this Nation and so had no further right than the Civil Magistrate could give which the same Power had again taken away So that the Ordination of Archbishop Parker was so far from being irregular that it was made by those who only had proper Right and Title to ordain For the rest of King Edward's Bishops being Dead the sole Authority did Regularly devolve on the few that were left And the Queen the Nobility and Gentry the Clergy and the Main Body of the Nation were so well satisfied of the unlawful Authority of those Bishops that were set aside and the undoubted Right of those who ordained Archbishop Parker that of about 9400 Clergy above 9200 did with great Joy receive the Bishops and the Reformation and the rest of the Nation even those that were formerly zealous for the Church of Rome did joyn with them in Prayers and Sacraments and there was an Universal Agreement and Concurrence in the Communion of the Church of England for 10 or 11 Years together so that there was no other Penal Law but that of 12 d. a Sunday to stir up lazy People to mind their Duty and we might have continued so till this Day in that happy Concord had not the Pope excommunicated and deposed the Queen and prohibited all her Subjects under Pain of an Anathema to own her Soveraignty and submit to the Bishops of the Church of England Upon which many separated from our Communion and have disturbed our Government ever since So that it is plain the Schism is on the side of the Papists who upon pretence of Papal Authority did withdraw themselves from the Communion of their own Bishops and make a formal division in the Church which was before united in Peace and Truth But suppose there was some circumstantial defect in the Succession of some of our first Bishops as to matter of Form in the beginning of Queen Elizabeth's Reign after so many of their Predecessors had been unjustly turned out and destroyed in Queen Mary's Days their Misfortunes do not at all concern the present Bishops of the Church of England for if the Matter of our Reformation and the Constitution of our Church be Sound and Catholick as it is beyond all possible Contradiction and the Consecration of our Bishops was Valid as to the matter of Order there being no Regular Succession of Bishops continued on by those who were set aside in Queen Elizabeth's Reign because they knew it was in vain when they saw the Kingdom so well settled and the People so unanimously joyning with the Reformed Bishops after all those Popish Bishops were Dead there could be nothing required in Reason to give the Protestants a full Right and Authority but the Reception of the Queen and the whole Kingdom and that they had long before and all the Bishops for many Successions since that Time came into vacant Places and the Bishops that now are were none of them Born and come into none but void Places and so are as Firmly and Canonically settled as any Bishops in the World. This being the true Account of the Reformation of the Church of England I proceed now to consider the Argument in the pretended Conference with Bishop Gunning and Bishop Pearson so many Years ago and lately Reprinted by Henry Cruttenden at Oxon. And first it begins with a Definition of Schism in this Manner Schism is a Voluntary Separation of one Part from the whole true visible Hierarchical Church of Christ And then he goes on to a Syllogism in this manner Whoever make a Voluntary Separation of themselves from the whole true visible Church of Christ are Schismaticks But all those of the English Protestant Party make a Voluntary Separation of themselves from the whole true visible Church of Christ. Therefore all those of the English Protestant Party are Schismaticks He goes about to prove that we separate from the visible Church because we separate from the Roman and Greek Churches and all others in Communion with them and this seems to be the full Substance and Design of the first Argument Now to avoid all doubt and entring into Disputes about Foreign Churches whose Case is in some Regard much different from ours of the Church of England I shall therefore instead of the Protestant Party proceed to Answer for the Protestants of the Church of England I will not go to examine the definition of Schism any one that desires further Satisfaction about it may look into the Conference it self as it is printed where it is learnedly and acutely examined by the Bishops themselves In Answer therefore to the major Proposition it is so far from being true that we separate from the visible Church of Christ that we separate from no true Church or Society of Christians in the World. But to the better stating of this Matter we must consider that there is a twofold Communion one of Coordination and another of Subordination Churches Coordinate i. e. of several Provinces several Nations and Countries owe no Obedience one to another and are not bound to observe the same Rites and Customs and to agree in all School-disputes and Niceties concerning Theological Opinions no more than several Kingdoms are bound to have the same Laws and Constitutions This is acknowledged by all sober Divines in all Ages Accordingly several Churches and Countries have had their peculiar Rules and Orders still living in Peace and Unity and so might it be at this Day did not the Church of Rome by Force and Subtilty go about to enslave all Mankind to their private Errors and Impositions As therefore several Kingdoms do maintain Peace one with another and give all friendly Assistance if there be Occasion for their mutual Happiness and Defence yet keep to their own Laws and Customs in other Matters so tho' we differ in some Opinions and Practices from Rome and other Churches yet we retain that Christian Charity and Respect for them which one Coordinate Church or Kingdom ought to have for another and so there is no Schism made at all by us nor so much as any Separation but what distance of Place and difference of Circumstances do necessarily make Neither do we send Emissaries Abroad to