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A48308 Defensive doubts, hopes, and reasons, for refusall of the oath, imposed by the sixth canon of the late synod with important considerations, both for the penning and publishing of them at this time / by John Ley ... ; hereunto is added by the same author, a letter against the erection of an altar, written above five yeares agoe, and a case of conscience, touching the receiving of the sacrament, resolved. Ley, John, 1583-1662. 1641 (1641) Wing L1874; ESTC R21343 93,675 154

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opinion_n to_o any_o nor_o can_v we_o acquit_v the_o chief_a of_o they_o from_o such_o a_o conceit_n for_o the_o mark_fw-mi the_o archb._n laud_v in_o his_o relat_n of_o his_o conference_n with_o fisher_n pag._n 176._o mark_fw-mi archbish_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o a.c._n have_v bring_v in_o a_o sentence_n out_o of_o saint_n hierome_n which_o be_v this_o lucifer_n this_o ubi_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la hieron_n advers._fw-la lucifer_n where_n there_o be_v no_o priest_n there_o be_v no_o church_n he_o take_v the_o word_n sacerdos_n for_o one_o who_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v which_o in_o hieromes_n own_o judgement_n be_v no_o mere_a priest_n but_o a_o bishop_n only_o and_o thence_o conclude_v so_o even_o with_o he_o no_v bishop_n no_o church_n which_o he_o so_o approve_v as_o if_o some_o who_o profess_v more_o good_a will_n to_o bishop_n than_o hierome_n he_o hierome_n see_v doubt_v 16_o pag._n 80._o and_o in_o the_o conference_n at_o hampton_n court_n pag._n 34._o be_v these_o word_n hierome_n no_o friend_n to_o bishop_n by_o reason_n of_o a_o quarrel_n betwixt_o the_o bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o he_o elsewhere_o do_v shall_v say_v somewhat_o more_o or_o the_o same_o that_o he_o do_v with_o more_o confidence_n which_o to_o we_o seem_v little_o less_o and_o
not_o much_o better_a then_o that_o we_o have_v note_v of_o the_o minorite_n friar_n for_o the_o say_n of_o hierome_n that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o church_n that_o have_v not_o sacerdotem_fw-la we_o that_o be_v presbyter_n may_v as_o well_o conceive_v that_o he_o mean_v a_o presbyter_n as_o he_o a_o bishop_n that_o he_o mean_v a_o bishop_n and_o hierome_n a_o presbyter_n as_o we_o be_v if_o he_o be_v alive_a will_v as_o we_o very_o believe_v give_v sentence_n on_o our_o side_n for_o first_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v that_o though_o there_o be_v more_o dignity_n in_o a_o bishop_n the_o be_v more_o necessity_n of_o a_o presbyter_n that_o be_v of_o one_o to_o officiate_v in_o preach_v the_o word_n and_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n whereof_o there_o be_v continual_a use_n then_o of_o a_o bishop_n to_o ordain_v if_o none_o can_v do_v it_o but_o a_o bishop_n which_o be_v require_v but_o sometime_o and_o though_o a_o bishop_n perform_v the_o same_o act_n yet_o he_o do_v they_o not_o as_o a_o bishop_n but_o as_o a_o presbyter_n second_o if_o hierome_n mean_v that_o there_o be_v no_o church_n without_o a_o ordain_v bishop_n and_o that_o be_v his_o opinion_n as_o his_o lordship_n expound_v he_o it_o be_v his_o error_n a_o uncharitable_a error_n which_o cast_v not_o particular_a christian_n only_o but_o many_o orthodox_n church_n out_o of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n and_o consequent_o out_o of_o the_o state_n of_o salvation_n whereas_o if_o some_o bishop_n have_v be_v as_o remote_a non-residents_a from_o their_o bishopricke_n as_o the_o pope_n from_o rome_n when_o he_o reside_v at_o avinion_n in_o france_n or_o have_v meddle_v no_o more_o with_o the_o church_n under_o their_o charge_n than_o the_o italian_a priest_n do_v when_o they_o have_v benefice_n in_o england_n and_o know_v only_o the_o name_n of_o they_o and_o receive_v tithe_n from_o they_o but_o do_v nothing_o for_o they_o or_o in_o they_o yet_o there_o may_v for_o all_o that_o be_v true_a church_n and_o 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clericum_fw-la potuit_fw-la ordinare_fw-la hieron_n advers._fw-la luciferian_n dialog_n tom_fw-mi 2._o fol._n 49._o col_fw-fr 2._o hilarius_n a_o schismatical_a deacon_n who_o die_v in_o the_o schism_n and_o his_o sect_n with_o he_o because_o be_v but_o a_o deacon_n he_o can_v not_o ordain_v a_o clerk_n to_o succeed_v he_o upon_o this_o say_v hierome_n ibid._n hierome_n ecclesia_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la sacerdotem_fw-la ibid._n it_o be_v not_o a_o church_n which_o have_v not_o a_o priest_n the_o word_n be_v sacerdotem_fw-la which_o seem_v to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o sense_n with_o the_o word_n clericum_fw-la a_o little_a before_o and_o that_o be_v there_o mean_v of_o he_o who_o be_v next_o above_o a_o deacon_n and_o he_o be_v a_o presbyter_n not_o a_o bishop_n who_o office_n in_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v there_o particular_o note_v which_o belong_v to_o a_o presbyter_n ut_fw-la sic_fw-la as_o he_o be_v a_o presbyter_n not_o to_o a_o bishop_n as_o he_o be_v a_o bishop_n object_n but_o he_o speak_v of_o ordain_v and_o that_o in_o hieromes_n judgement_n be_v proper_a to_o a_o bishop_n answ_n 1._o hierome_n know_v well_o enough_o that_o of_o old_a though_o it_o be_v otherwise_o in_o his_o time_n bishop_n alone_o do_v not_o ordain_v church_n minister_n but_o the_o presbytery_n with_o they_o 1_o timoth._n 4.14_o if_o not_o without_o they_o for_o many_o hold_n that_o at_o that_o time_n there_o be_v no_o prelatical_a bishop_n above_o their_o brethren_n &_o even_o to_o this_o day_n there_o be_v a_o shadow_n of_o that_o sociable_a power_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n retain_v in_o practice_n by_o the_o imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o presbyter_n with_o the_o bishop_n and_o require_v by_o constitution_n in_o the_o 35._o canon_n of_o the_o year_n 1603._o and_o some_o learned_a papist_n be_v of_o opinion_n though_o it_o come_v too_o near_o the_o truth_n to_o be_v common_a among_o they_o that_o bishop_n may_v delegate_v their_o power_n both_o of_o 11._o of_o episcopum_fw-la in_o sva_fw-la provincia_fw-la posse_fw-la committere_fw-la simplici_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la quod_fw-la conferat_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la confirmationis_fw-la martin_n ledesma_n prima_fw-la 4_o ti_o qu._n 13._o a._n 11._o confirmation_n and_o of_o 249._o of_o episcopos_fw-la posse_fw-la delegare_fw-la potestatem_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la aequè_fw-la ac_fw-la papam_fw-la novariens_fw-la tract_n 1._o part_n 2.13_o apud_fw-la fran._n à_fw-la sancta_fw-la clara_n apolog._n episcop_n pag._n 249._o ordination_n to_o presbyter_n or_o priest_n second_o though_o where_o there_o be_v bishop_n ancient_o and_o usual_o ordination_n be_v not_o confer_v without_o they_o yet_o where_o there_o be_v none_o without_o they_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_o and_o effectual_o do_v as_o we_o shall_v note_v in_o another_o place_n and_o therefore_o no_o such_o necessity_n either_o of_o they_o or_o of_o ordination_n by_o they_o as_o be_v pretend_v and_o though_o the_o over-high_a exaltation_n of_o prelate_n have_v depress_v presbyter_n so_o far_o below_o the_o right_n and_o power_n of_o their_o order_n that_o it_o be_v make_v in_o some_o man_n conceit_n a_o strange_a thing_n and_o a_o kind_n of_o presumption_n in_o any_o case_n to_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o ordination_n of_o minister_n yet_o hierome_n sure_o be_v not_o of_o their_o mind_n when_o he_o give_v they_o the_o honour_n which_o some_o episcopal_a parasite_n appropriate_v to_o bishop_n to_o be_v account_v the_o successor_n of_o the_o holy_a apostle_n as_o he_o do_v in_o the_o first_o of_o all_o his_o epistle_n which_o be_v write_v to_o heliodorus_n three_o from_o hieromes_n word_n in_o this_o place_n we_o may_v rather_o collect_v that_o a_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o a_o bishop_n may_v ordain_v since_o he_o deni_v that_o faculty_n but_o to_o a_o deacon_n then_o that_o by_o the_o word_n priest_n a_o bishop_n must_v be_v mean_v and_o ordination_n peculiar_o derive_v from_o he_o four_o howsoever_o where_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o church_n that_o have_v not_o a_o priest_n he_o be_v in_o reason_n to_o be_v understand_v not_o of_o one_o that_o have_v power_n to_o make_v a_o priest_n but_o of_o a_o priest_n already_o make_v for_o such_o a_o one_o a_o particular_a church_n can_v want_v but_o of_o a_o bishop_n unto_o it_o there_o be_v no_o such_o need_n five_o if_o hierome_n in_o this_o place_n be_v zealous_a against_o schism_n speak_v somewhat_o too_o free_o in_o favour_n of_o bishop_n which_o yet_o be_v doubtful_a though_o more_o probable_a that_o he_o speak_v on_o the_o presbyter_n side_n then_o of_o the_o bishop_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o in_o other_o place_n which_o we_o shall_v observe_v afterward_o he_o express_v himself_o far_o from_o such_o fondness_n of_o affection_n to_o bishop_n as_o his_o lordship_n deduce_v out_o of_o his_o word_n so_o much_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o hierome_n wherein_o we_o crave_v his_o lordship_n patience_n and_o pardon_n for_o our_o boldness_n since_o his_o explication_n and_o application_n thereof_o for_o the_o necessity_n of_o bishop_n to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n and_o so_o by_o consequence_n to_o salvation_n have_v put_v a_o necessity_n upon_o we_o serious_o to_o examine_v what_o he_o say_v and_o mean_v object_n there_o be_v some_o who_o to_o assert_v a_o necessity_n of_o discipline_n say_v that_o discipline_n comprehend_v a_o preach_a ministry_n and_o that_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n answ_n 1._o there_o be_v near_a affinity_n betwixt_o preach_v and_o doctrine_n then_o betwixt_o preach_v and_o discipline_n which_o be_v exercise_v more_o in_o matter_n of_o 1730._o of_o quid_fw-la prodesset_fw-la disciplinam_fw-la habere_fw-la in_o conversatione_fw-la scientiam_fw-la in_o praedicatione_n nisi_fw-la ad_fw-la sit_fw-la bonitas_fw-la in_o intention_n sermo_n ad_fw-la pastor_n in_o synodo_n congregatis_fw-la inter_fw-la opera_fw-la bernardi_n col_fw-fr 1730._o
44._o the_o thing_n that_o he_o and_o his_o party_n stand_v for_o be_v such_o as_o that_o if_o every_o hair_n of_o their_o head_n be_v a_o life_n they_o shall_v lay_v all_o down_o for_o the_o defence_n thereof_o and_o there_o be_v some_o so_o rigid_a to_o such_o church_n as_o want_v it_o as_o to_o hold_v they_o want_v a_o principal_a mean_n of_o their_o salvation_n in_o opposition_n to_o these_o it_o may_v be_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o oath_n be_v that_o as_o for_o doctrine_n so_o for_o discipline_n our_o church_n want_v nothing_o that_o be_v needful_a to_o salvation_n but_o because_o by_o such_o a_o expression_n the_o composer_n of_o the_o canon_n may_v seem_v to_o assume_v that_o necessity_n of_o episcopal_a pre-eminence_n such_o as_o it_o be_v in_o england_n and_o ireland_n which_o they_o condemn_v in_o the_o discipline_n of_o geneva_n and_o other_o reform_a church_n we_o fear_v a_o snare_n in_o these_o word_n of_o the_o oath_n object_n but_o do_v not_o a_o apostolical_a council_n decree_n forbearance_n of_o thing_n of_o different_a nature_n as_o of_o meat_n offer_v to_o idol_n of_o thing_n strangle_v of_o blood_n and_o of_o fornication_n call_v the_o abstinence_n from_o they_o all_o necessary_a thing_n act._n 15.28_o 29._o yet_o be_v there_o more_o necessity_n of_o forbearance_n of_o the_o last_o then_o of_o all_o the_o rest_n for_o to_o abstain_v from_o they_o be_v not_o necessary_a but_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o state_n of_o that_o time_n that_o the_o gentile_n and_o the_o jew_n may_v live_v more_o peaceable_o together_o with_o less_o occasion_n of_o quarrel_n but_o to_o forbear_v fornication_n be_v and_o will_v be_v always_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n answ_n all_o this_o be_v true_a yet_o many_o way_n different_a from_o our_o case_n for_o first_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o embrace_v the_o decree_n of_o a_o apostolical_a council_n without_o all_o doubt_n or_o suspicion_n of_o error_n but_o we_o be_v not_o so_o to_o entertain_v any_o constitution_n of_o man_n 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