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polybius_n say_v in_o a_o certain_a furious_a faction_n of_o a_o army_n of_o several_a nation_n and_o consequent_o language_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o of_o they_o understand_v only_o this_o word_n throw_v at_o he_o this_o i_o say_v in_o my_o opinion_n be_v it_o chief_o which_o make_v so_o many_o so_o sudden_o leave_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o indeed_o to_o borrow_v the_o author_n phrase_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o need_v not_o persuasion_n to_o do_v it_o but_o only_a news_n that_o other_o have_v begin_v for_o as_o this_o alone_a if_o believe_v make_v all_o the_o rest_n be_v so_o too_o so_o one_o thing_n alone_a mis-liked_n overthrow_v also_o all_o the_o rest_n section_n 30_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o because_o it_o agree_v not_o with_o the_o goodness_n of_o god_n to_o let_v man_n want_v a_o infallible_a guide_n therefore_o there_o must_v be_v one_o and_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v that_o one_o yet_o if_o that_o teach_v any_o thing_n to_o 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time_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o disease_n that_o first_o settle_v in_o the_o head_n easy_o pass_v through_o all_o the_o body_n consider_v how_o apt_a all_o man_n be_v to_o desire_v that_o all_o man_n shall_v think_v as_o they_o do_v and_o consequent_o to_o lay_v a_o necessity_n upon_o thou_o recive_v that_o opinion_n if_o they_o conceive_v that_o a_o way_n to_o have_v it_o receive_v and_o then_o if_o it_o be_v believe_v general_o profitable_a as_o for_o example_n confession_n who_o will_v be_v apt_a to_o oppose_v their_o call_n it_o necessary_a for_o the_o same_o cause_n for_o which_o they_o call_v it_o so_o beside_o if_o this_o error_n be_v deliver_v by_o some_o father_n in_o the_o hot_a opposition_n of_o some_o heretic_n it_o may_v be_v none_o of_o his_o side_n will_v oppose_v it_o lest_o they_o may_v take_v advantage_n by_o their_o dissension_n and_o he_o that_o dispute_v for_o the_o orthodox_n side_n may_v lose_v by_o it_o much_o of_o his_o authority_n section_n 45_o 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scripture_n for_o judge_n be_v because_o when_o difference_n arise_v about_o the_o interpretation_n there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o end_v they_o and_o that_o it_o will_v not_o stand_v with_o the_o goodness_n of_o god_n to_o damn_v man_n for_o not_o follow_v his_o will_n if_o he_o have_v assign_v no_o infallible_a way_n how_o to_o find_v it_o i_o confess_v this_o to_o be_v wonderful_a true_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o let_v they_o excuse_v themselves_o that_o think_v otherwise_o yet_o this_o will_v be_v no_o argument_n against_o he_o who_o believe_v that_o to_o all_o who_o follow_v their_o reason_n in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o search_v for_o tradition_n god_n will_v either_o give_v his_o grace_n for_o assistance_n to_o find_v the_o truth_n or_o his_o pardon_n if_o they_o miss_v it_o and_o then_o this_o suppose_a necessity_n of_o a_o infallible_a guide_n with_o this_o suppose_a damnation_n for_o want_v of_o it_o fall_v together_o to_o the_o ground_n 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