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A05202 The pedegrewe of heretiques Wherein is truely and plainely set out, the first roote of heretiques begon in the Church, since the time and passage of the Gospell, together with an example of the ofspring of the same. Perused and alowed according to the order appoynted in the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions. Barthlet, John. 1566 (1566) STC 1534; ESTC S101557 103,046 188

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