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without_o progenitor_n successor_n without_o a_o pedigree_n new_a teacher_n without_o commission_n protestant_n indeed_o but_o without_o principle_n 15._o hence_o i_o argue_v and_o it_o be_v a_o demonstration_n against_o sectary_n if_o neither_o church_n nor_o council_n nor_o pastor_n nor_o doctor_n nor_o any_o orthodox_n christian_n in_o forego_v age_n ever_o own_v or_o so_o much_o as_o hear_v of_o protestancy_n before_o one_o unfortunate_a fatherless_a luther_n broach_v it_o if_o no_o antiquity_n so_o much_o as_o once_o mention_v one_o professor_n of_o that_o religion_n if_o no_o tradition_n hand_v to_o luther_n the_o new_a faith_n he_o teach_v all_o which_o be_v without_o dispute_v manifest_a protestancy_n most_o enident_o be_v upon_o this_o very_a account_n both_o a_o vnwitness_v and_o a_o vnprincipled_a religion_n and_o not_o only_o improbable_a but_o in_o the_o high_a degree_n improbable_a but_o no_o authority_n can_v release_v a_o unprincipled_a novelty_n from_o its_o own_o 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