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A06481 A persuasion from papistrie vvrytten chiefely to the obstinate, determined, and dysobedient English papists, who are herein named & proued English enimies and extreme enimies to Englande. Which persuasion, all the Queenes Maiesties subiectes, fauoring the Pope or his religion, will reade or heare aduisedlye ... Lupton, Thomas. 1581 (1581) STC 16950; ESTC S108934 242,044 324

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witnesse of it And thus I began with him I pray you sir how long is it since Christ was borne on the virgin Marie and began in his humanitie forsooth sayd he aboue fiftéene hundreth yéere since you will denie this saide I no that I will not saide he for I can not if I would then I answered him again I feare either you wil denie it or else hold your peace which is as good as a grant for qui tacet consentire videtur you are not ignorant I am sure sayd I y t to morrow there wilbe many Masses sayd song though not in England yet in Rome Italie Spaine France and other places that is surely so said he at the same Masses to morowe said I againe you are sure that y e Priests will haue litle cakes vntill the Priests haue consecrated them they are bread yea said he that is very true but assoone as he hath consecrated them said I then it is the very body of Christ that I must néedes graunt sayd he then said I to all them that did sit at the table maisters I pray you beare recorde this Gentleman said in the hearing of you all that to morrowe the litle cakes before the priests consecrate them be bread and immediatly after they haue consecrated the same they are then the very bodie of Christ. So that hereby he plainly affirmes that to morow the bodie of Christ wilbe made of a péece of bread or that a litle cake will become the bodie of Christ whereby the bodie or humanitie of Christe will begin to morrowe notwithstanding he sayd as you did heare but euen now that it is aboue fiftéene hundreth yéeres since the humanitie or the body of Christe first began Which when I had spoken all they at the table did not only hold their peace but also the sayd learned Gentleman had neuer a worde to say Wherein he did wisely rather to say nothing than nothing to the purpose And thus by this true argument he was confuted that by false argumentes thought to confute the trueth And if this argument will not suffice you with diuers before that are infallible but that you wil néedes persist in your most grosse opinion beléeue that the Sacramentall bread is chaunged into the verie bodie of Christe then I would faine know why the Priestes are allowed and doe vse to burne their bodie of Christ when it doth putrifie is mustie or waxe mowlie for they will kéepe him no longer than he is mans meate which shewes that in continuance of time it wil putrifie be mowlie or mustie but what wise mā or what Christian can once think that y e bodie of Iesus Christ the Sonne of the Eternall God the Sauiour of all mankind and the King of all Kings that shall reigne in euerlasting glory can putrifie corrupt or waxe mowlie or mustie But I will go further with you what is that is burned or that was burned when Pope Hildebrand did cast the bread his bodie of Christ into the fire or whereof are the ashes that commes of that you burne or that Pope Hildebrand burned eyther they must be the ashes of the body of Christ or the ashes of bread If they be ashes of the bodie of Christ then why do they burne the bodie of Christe and what wicked wretches are they that burne the bodie of Christ no maruell though they burne the poore seruaunts of Christ when they sticke not to burne the bodie of Christ himselfe But if it be lawfull for them now in this world to burne Christes bodie whiche they make themselues then it is as lawfull for God hereafter in the worlde to come to burne their bodies and Soules that hée made himselfe farre inferiour to Christes bodie which I feare hée will vnlesse they repent betymes this their maruellous abusing of the woorthy Sacrament whiche Christe lefte vs for a memorie of hys death and Passion and for thus deludyng the people of God And if they are the ashes of bread that is burned then why doo they make vs beléeue that it is the bodie of Christe but there are some of you so vnshamefast y t to maintayne your errours haue sayd that neyther the bodie of Christe nor the bread is burned but the Accidentes that is the whitenesse or colour the roundnesse the breadth the thicknesse the taste and the smell is burned and thereof the sayde ashes came that is very strange that a matter or Substance which is the ashes should come of Accidentes This is more than euer I knew I haue heard that Accidents come of a matter or Substance but not Substance to come of Accidents If the Accidents were burned as some of you saye then I would know whether the Accidents of Christes bodie or of bread was burned If you saie they were y e Accidents of Christes bodie that was burned and his bodie is whole and sound and vnburned then you haue drest Christe well in déede you haue made Christe to haue a proper bodie yea such a bodie as fewe haue heard of for then the bodie of Christ is neyther shorte long thicke nor thinne grosse nor leane round nor square and you haue made him also without weight colour taste and smell what a kinde of bodie haue you made Christ to haue for want of his Accidents which are burned there is not such a bodie to be found in all the whole worlde as you haue made Christe if you haue burned al these his Accidents from him If you say you burned the Accidents of bread as the roundnesse thicknesse thinnesse weight taste smell and colour and left the bread remaining vnburned thē you burned no part of the bodie of Christe so your Sacrament was not the bodie of Christ. But I would very fayne sée that bread that you drest in that order it woulde be a strange cake if one might sée it that hath neither colour taste smell thicknesse length breadth nor weight such a péece of bread or cake was neuer yet séene nor neuer will be You may sée what mischieues incōueniences and impossibilities you bring your selues into with maintaining your most false and grosse opinion of Transubstantiation So that whether you burne the bodie of Christ or the bread or those Accidents either of the bodie of Christe or of bread you are confounded your Christ of bread cleane lost and vanished and your Christ of bread proued nothing but bread so you do honor worship knock and knéele to a cake or péece of bread whiche must néedes be most wicked and detestable idolatrie And further if you saie you burne but the Accidentes so mighte Iosias also saie when he burned the Priestes of Baal on the Altars whereon they committed Idolatrie that he did not burne the Priestes nor hurte their bodies for he burned but their Accidents as their colour their length breadth weight thicknesse thinnesse sauour and suche lyke So if the Quéenes Maiestie should burne these Missall Priestes that
in my beliefe Marke further howe the Popes learned Doctors agrée in this the Popes transubstantiation or chaunging of the breade into the body of Christ Some of you holde saieth M. Iewell against M. Harding in his defence of the Apologie that Christes body passeth downe into the stomacke some say that it onely entreth into the mouth and goeth no further some other say assoone as the formes of the bread be grated with the teeth straight way the bodye of Christ is caught vp into heauen Another of you saith that a mouse can not eate it yea but if she might catch it she would aske no better dinner Peter Lombarde the grand maister of your Schoole is piteouslie confounded in the case and can not imagine poore man what thing it should be that the mouse eateth for after he himself had moued the question what is it then that the mouse receyueth or what eateth it he answereth now God knoweth as for my pa●te I can not tell Such is your doctors Maister Harding saith M. Iewel such is your doctrine Thus farre hath M. Iewell written You may sée what a sounde doctrine this is of your transubstantiated bread into the bodie of Christ and how certain it is whereon the Popes doctors so diuersly descant Therefore séeing the learned Papistes are not fully resolued among themselues of this their Christes bodie that they saie is made of bread what fooles are yée then that do so stifly maintaine the same and that will so faithfully beléeue that they so firmely doubte and to take that for the bodie of Christ that a Mouse will eate and deuour But bycause some of these learned do saie that a Mouse wil eate it I am of their opinion if she may come by it and then if she eate bread then it is not the bodie of Christ and if it be the bodie of Christe then it is but a simple Christ that will suffer a Mouse to eate him therefore turne it which waie you will you bring your selues into the breares Consider I beséeche you the absurde and vile sayings and opinions of them of the Popes side touching the same whose wordes be these If it be said that a Mouse receiueth the bodie of Christ it is no great inconuenience And Alexander of Hales a great Schoole doctor in vnséemely and grosse manner doth saie If a Dog or Sowe saith he should happen to swallowe downe the whole hoste beyng consecrate I see no reason but the bodie of our Lorde may passe withall into the belly of the Dogge or of the Sowe Is not the doctrine of this holy Romish Church woorthie to be embrased and followed that hath such heauenly doctrine in it what execrable wretches are these that woulde make Christes bodie which is most holy and glorious and is in Heauen on the right hand of God the father to be deuoured of Dogges and Swine If such leaue not to allure and leade the ignorant from the trueth and forsake not their abhominable papisticall Religion and doctrine betymes I feare thy shall haue their portion with Dogges Swine Owles and Gotes in the endlesse and vnquenchable fire of Hell from whence neyther the Pope nor their Christ of bread shall euer be hable to deliuer them Marke how Diuelish and detestable Maister Harding writes in the defence of this doctrine of Transubstantiation at the Supper of our Lorde saith he ministred in the Catholike Church by Priests rightly consecrate there is the true and holy bodie of our Lord and Sauiour giuen and receiued be the receiuers beleeuing or not beleeuing If this be true that M. Harding sayth then it skilles not whether we beléeue in Christ or no so that we may once get it into our mouthes and eate it But S. Augustine and other ancient writers are of a contrarie opinion to M. Harding For he saith Quid paras dentem ventrē crede manducasti Why prepares thou thy tooth and thy belly beleeue and thou hast eaten Thus by S. Augustines rule beliefe is chiefly required to the receiuing of the Sacrament though M. Harding makes no accompt whether we beléeue or not S. Cyprian calleth the Sacrament Cibum mentis non ventris the foode of the minde or Soule not of the belly Tertullian sayth Christe must be deuoured by hearing chewed by vnderstanding and disgested by fayth Saint Augustine sayth To beleeue in Christe that is the eating of the bread of lyfe And he saith also Vnlesse yee eate the fleshe of the Sonne of man and drinke his bloud yee shall haue no life in you Christe seemeth by these wordes sayth Saint Augustine to commaunde vs to doe an horrible wickednesse for it is an horrible matter to eate mans fleshe or to drinke mans bloud Therefore this is a figure commaunding vs to bee partakers of Christes passion and comfortably to laie vp in our minde that his flesh was crucified and wounded for vs. Therefore the eating of the Sacrament or Christes body with our mouthes as Maister Harding doth dreame is not to eate Christes fleshe and drinke his bloud for this holy Sacrament of Christe supper is the foode of the soule not of the bodie and as the bodie hath a mouth whereby it dothe féede Corporally so hath the Soule a mouth whereby it doeth féede Spiritually which mouth of the Soule is faith and as our bodies are fedde and norished by eating of meate so are our Soules fedde and nourished by beléeuing in Iesus Christ. For if there be none other eating of Christes body wherby we shall haue eternall life but only by the fantasticall fleshly eating with our mouth and téeth then how can the holy Fathers in the old time before Christe be saued as Abraham Isaac and Iacob Moses Dauid Samuell and other of the holy Prophetes that neuer did eate the Sacrament with their mouthes neuer knew it There haue bene a great sorte of godly Martirs yong christian childrē besides the théefe that died with Christe on his right side whome Christ promised that he should be with him in Paradise that haue not with their mouthes eaten this Sacrament yet I trust fewe will therefore saie that they are al damned But if this eating of the Sacrament with the mouth as M. Harding saith and many of you beléeue be the true perfect eating of y e body or flesh of Christ then there is none other shift but they all must néedes be dāned As it appeareth by Christs owne words for he saith vnlesse you eate the fleshe of the Sonne of man drinke his bloud ye haue no life in you Hereof we must néedes cōclude if your Romish religiō doctrine be true that Abrahā Isaac Iacob Moses Dauid al the Patriarkes Prophets and other holy men al y e godly Martirs al yong children yea the théef● that Christ promised to be with him in Paradise y t neuer did eat or receiue the Sacrament with there mouths haue no lyfe but are
vtterly damned for euer Which no true Christian will beléeue Therfore if you will néedes beléeue the Popes Transubstantiation and that the Sacramentall bread is turned into the body of Christ and that if you eate it with your mouth champe it with your téeth that then you eate the very bodie flesh of Christ then you must also beléeue that al these holy men martires yong children and the théefe that neuer did eate it with their mouthes are dāned Which Diuelish and most vntrue doctrine I hope you wil beléeue no longer but if you do yet we will rather beléeue they are saued that your Diuelish doctrine of Transubstantiation is altogither false Thus you may sée into what a great mischiefe inconuenience you are driuen by beléeuing that the Sacramentall bread is the very body of Christ. And now marke well how you are brought into an other maruelous mischiefe and inconuenience by this your Romishe doctrine Christ sayth Whosoeuer eateth my flesh and drinketh my bloud hath eternall life and I will rayse him vp at the last day Now if your eating of the Sacrament with your mouth and téeth and your drinking of the wine is the right eating and drinking of the bodie bloud of Christ then Iudas is saued for he did eate drinke it and Iewes Turkes and the Heathen worshippers of Idols shalbe saued if they once catch holde of your bodie of Christ and eate it yea and the little Mouse shalbe saued if she catch it and eate it for I dare say for hir that she neither beléeues in Christ nor would beléeue that it were the bodie of Christ but a péece of bread or a cake for if shée did thinke it were the bodie of a man shée would not come so nie it Thus if it be the very bodie of Christ and be truely receyued whether one beléeue in Christ or not then the greatest Infidels Idolaters Tirants and the most wicked persons on the earth yea and the Mouse the Dogge or any other beast if they may once get this your Christes bodie into their mouthes mawes are sure to be saued Christ will raise them vp at the last day for Christ saith as it is before whosoeuer eateth my flesh and drinketh my bloud hath eternall life and I will raise him vp at the last day And so by this your true reasonable doctrine Christ will raise vp Mise and Dogges that haue and shall eate your Sacrament at the last day and also by this meanes the théefe is damned that Christ said should be saued and Iudas is saued that Christ saide was damned When you haue red this may you not be ashamed that euer you gaue such credite to this vile Diuelish doctrine of the Romish Church Yes verily if you haue any wit or reason but especially any sparke of the grace of God Sée hereafter I praie you how Christes doctrine and your Romishe religion agrées in this point forsooth euen as it doeth in all the rest Christe sayde I am the liuing bread that came downe from Heauen but cleane came and quite contrarie you saie that your earthly dead bread is Christ that went to Heauen for I am sure that the bread that you make your Christes bodie of was neuer in Heauen therefore your bread neuer came from heauen and so your bread can not be the bodie of Christe for that hée sayth I am the liuing bread that came downe from heauen And so your dead bread can not be the bodie of Christ. And now bycause it can not be the liuing bodie of Christe it must néedes be a dead Substance or péece of bread Therefore be no longer allured by the Romishe Religion that teacheth you thus falsely and vnreasonably that the Sacramentall bread by their consecrating of it is the bodie of Christ but beléeue as the Gospell doth tell you the Apostles do shewe you as Saint Steuen doth learne you and as your Créede doth teache you that the bodie of Christe is now in Heauen on the right hande of God the father from whence hée will come to iudge the quicke and the dead And if these be not sufficient to persuade you that he in his bodie is in Heauen and no where else you shall heare the opinions of auncient godly and learned men therein S. Augustine saith Ibat per id quod homo erat manebat per id quod Deus erat c. Christ departed by that he was man but abode by that he was God he departed by that that was in one place he abode by that that is in all places Fulgentius writes as followeth concerning Christes absence and presence Secundum humanitatem suam localiter erat in terra c. Christe according to his manhood he was placed in earth but according to his godhead he filled both heauē earth The manhood of Christ is contained in place the godhead of Christ is infinite and in all places The fleshe of Christ is doubtles locall or in place the godhead of Christ is for euer in euery place There remained still in Christ the infinite godhead there was receiued of him a locall manhood how ascended he into Heauen sauing he is very man contayned in place how is he present with the faithful sauing he is infinite and true God And last of all he saith Vnus idemque Christus secundum humanam substantiam c. Christ being one according to the Substance of his manhead was absent frō Heauen when he was in earth and he forsooke earth when he was in heauen Now if we may beléeue Christ if we may credite our Créede if S. Steuen said truly if S. Paule be true of his worde If Tertullian Cyprian Augustine Chrysostome and this Fulgentius with many other godly fathers and learned writers haue not fabled herein then surely the very body of Christ that died on the Crosse is at this present time in heauen on the right hand of God the Father neither here on earth nor any where else though the Pope and his Parasites tell vs that he is here But marke further you shal sée how learnedly clarkly M. Hard. goeth about to proue this turning of a cake into Christ. Who saith that Christ made his Apostles saith M. Iewel misteriall Spirits saying Do this wherein is contained make this in my remēbrance saying a litle before that Christe was a Priest and consecrated as a Priest as S. Hier. dothe witnesse that as Melchisedech in foreshewing the figure of Christ had done Panem vinum offerens ipse quoque veritatem sui corporis sanguinis representaret Christ himselfe also should make present the truth of his body and bloud To whom that famous and learned man M. Iewell late Bishop of Sarisburie answeared as followeth Is representare Latine to make present M. Harding what Grammarian euer taught you so to say or what making finde you in this worde as you tender your credite tell vs who euer
thinke y t you are more than mad y t take a péece of breade for the body of your deare and louing maister and Sauiour Christ and knéele to it and honor it for Christ which he hath lefte you for a signe to remēber him withal in his absēce a pledge of his cōming againe And doubtlesse he wil be very angry with you y t so doe thrust you out of his seruice that giue that honor to a péece of breade that is due vnto himselfe vnlesse you repent and take it for a remembrance of him as he did leaue it for you Thus you may plainly sée that y e words y t Christ spake this is my body will not serue their turne any way to make the sacramentall bread the body of Christ nay the Popes Doctors by tossing y e same euery way for their transubstantiatiō haue brought themselues into such a maze or labyrinth that they can not tell how to get themselues out I could haue helped the Pope to a better place of Scripture than this for the making of Christes bodye whereby Christ should not onely by expresse wordes haue allowed it for his bodye at all times but it shoulde haue bene like the body of Christ in substance qualitie all other accidents And that is this Christ tooke a child and sayd who so shal receiue such a little child in my name receiueth me These are Christs very words and woulde haue serued the Popes turne a thousand times better than y e words y t Christ spake of the sacrament at his last supper But perhaps it may be thought that by this word whosoeuer euerye one may doe it aswel as the Pope his Priests therfore it is not for his purpose Yea but I could helpe y t matter wel enough for as much as the Pope hath power to expound the scriptures as he list and that they shall haue none other sense than he will allow thē then y e Pope might haue said y t whereas Christ said whosoeuer receiueth such a child in my name receiueth me that is to say whosoeuer of y e Popes or of y e Popes Bishops Abbots or priests receiueth such a child in my name receiueth me And thus y e Pope his Priestes whē so euer they would haue made the body of Christ might haue taken a childe and said In the name of Christ I receiue thée and then straight way by Christes owne wordes the same childe had bene Christ And so they might haue allured taught the people to haue knéeled to the same chyld worshipped it and so to haue taken it for Christe althoughe it were not And thus doyng they shoulde not onelye haue had a good commission frō Christ by special words so to do but also the childe whom they made the people beléeue was Christ should haue had the proportion shape forme body bones fleshe skinne head armes legges all other members as Christ had And therefore the Pope his Priestes bée very farre ouerséene that without any authoritie make the body of Christ of a deade péece of breade so farre vnlike vnto Christ and might haue made it with Christes commission and warrant of a liuing childe that in all pointes to the eye is like vnto Christ. This had bin a finer likelier and more credible way to haue made Christ of a lyuing body than of dead breade For if the people are so fonde to beléeue that a cake of bread is the very body of Christ then they would I thinke quickely beléeue that a quicke boy or childe were euen Christ himselfe But though the Priest might make many beléeue that that same childe were Christ yet perhaps the father of that childe would not beléeue it but would say vnto the Priest sir you make the people beléeue a false lye for this childe is not Christ he is my sonne I begot him and I am his father Euen so might the Wafer maker say to the Priest sir you are much deceiued and deceiue the people also this is not the body of Christ it is a cake and thereof I am very sure for I my selfe made it And though this had bene a more fitter text for the Pope to haue chosen for the making of Christes bodye yet if they had sayde the same wordes a thousand times ouer a boye yet for all that he shoulde haue bene a boye still as he was before so the cake of breade is a cake of breade still thoughe the Priest prattle neuer so much ouer it For as I sayd before Christs words ought not alwayes to be taken litterally but sometimes spiritually and so these wordes of Christ ought also to be vnderstanded spirituallye and not as Christ spake them For though Christ sayde Whosoeuer shall receiue such a little childe in my name receiueth mee he ment thereby y t whosoeuer receiueth such a one in his name and doth any thing for him for Christes sake he shall haue as great a rewarde therfore as though he had receiued Christ or done y e same to Christ himselfe And he that receiueth the spiritual mēber of Christe he muste néedes receiue and entertayne the spiritual heade of that member which is Christ but to receiue Christ his owne person or verye body none can doe neyther can we haue the body of Christ presēt by any meanes before the last day though you most fondly and falsely beléeue that his body is presente here and that the sacramental bread is turned into his body which is sufficientlye proued before to be a moste absurde grosse and wicked errour Therefore whosoeuer sayth there is no bread in the sacrament but that it is the bodye of Christ beléeue him not for you haue heard plainely that gods word the Doctors the auntient writers our owne reason our owne eyes our nose our tong our fingers and the silly mouse do al agrée in one and say that there is breade and if you refuse so many sure and sounde witnesses so wel agréeing in their tale and that wil lye for no mans pleasure then cal the Sacrament it selfe to recorde and it will tel you the trueth who will saye vnto you if you aske it I am grated with the téeth I am conueyed into the belly I perish I can endure no space I canckar I bréede wormes I am kept in a box for feare of bats if you leaue me out all night I shal be deuoured before morning for if the mouse get me I am gone I am breade I am not the body of Christ beléeue thē not This and the rest that I haue written is sufficient to perswade you from your grosse senselesse vnreasonable and most wicked abhominable errour of your turning or changing the sacramentall breade into the body of Christe vnlesse you are fully determined and purposely bent to offēd God and to deny and refuse Christe and his merits and wilfullye and obstinatelye to withstande and resist the trueth It may be that some of you holde
this most fonde and fantastical opinion rather by the perswading of your father mother or some other of your speciall friends at these death than for any trueth you know in it or for any learning you haue to defende it at whose earnest request perhappes you haue made eyther a vowe or sworne vnto thē that you would beléeue it as long as you liue and that nothing shoulde allure you from it If any of you haue done so as I thynke some of you haue done so yet you ought rather consider the thing wherefore you sweare or make your vowe than the partie to whom you sweare or make your vowe and the trueth and goodnesse of the matter not the affection you beare to the person Bycause your father mother or some other of your dearest friends beléeued all their liues and their Fathers before them that the breade after the consecration is the verye bodye of Christe yet that makes not that therefore it is the bodye of Christe the heathen and their Fathers grandfathers and greate greate grandfathers before them doe and haue moste wicked worshipped Idolles yea and perhappes some of them at their deathes haue made their children or other whome they loued to vowe or sweare vnto them that they shoulde neuer forsake or refuse to worship theyr Gods or Idols and that they shoulde by no meanes become Christians yet this is not a sufficient argumente to proue that therefore their Idols were Gods and oughte to be worshipped or saye that therefore they shoulde kéepe their othe or vowe to take their Idols for Gods and worship them and not to become Christians If one that hath bene a théefe all his life shoulde at his death saye thus to his sonne come hither my childe and marke well my wordes I haue bene a théefe all my life I haue founde it a verye good trade and I haue liued plentifullye and pleasauntlye withall therefore my sonne I charge thée on my blessing that thou vse the same trade all thy life shall this théeues childe thinke that thefte is a good and honest trade bycause his Father vsed it all hys life and play the théefe and steale as long as he liues for feare of loosing his fathers blessing that were not méet no more ought you to beléeue that a Cake of breade is the verie bodie of Christ and to knéele to it and worship it for Christ thoughe youre Father or mother beléeued so and worshipped it and though they at their death charged you of their blessing so to doe it is better for you to lose youre Father and mothers blessings to haue the blessings of God than to loose the blessings of God to haue the blessings of your Father and mother neuer feare to breake your vowe or promise made to your earthly Father if the kéeping of them will displease your heauenly Father regarde not mans doctrine vnlesse it agrée wyth Gods doctrine care not for mans commaundemente vnlesse it agrée with Gods commaundement and wey not what man doeth charge you as long as GOD doeth not charge you Therefore how farre wide are you howe bewitched are you howe daungerously walke you and as Saint Augustine sayeth In what a miserable bondage of the Soule are you that take the thing that doth signify for the thing signified that take the Sacramente for the thing that is signified by the Sacramente and that take a deade earthy péece of breade for the heauenly and liuing body of Christ And also what horrible Idolatrie doe you committe how derogate yée the merits of Christ and how greatly do you offende the Maiestie of God that knéele too honoure and reuerence a Cake of breade in the stead of Christ the very son of God Did not y e children of Israel highly displease God which immediately after he had so wōderfully deliuered thē out of Egipt frō their enimies did make a golden Calfe and daūst about it saying These be the Gods that brought thee out of the land of Egypt yes truely and Gods wrath being kindled againste them he worthylye therefore plagued them And whosoeuer thinkes that they therefore dyd not iustly deserue the plagues curses y t god sēt vpō them are more sencelesse than swine more brutish thā beasts And I thinke that none of you to whom I write this perswasion but wyl saye that they deserued the same yea if they had bin greater and moe for that they did forgette God so quickly that miraculously deliuered them so lately committing suche wicked Idolatrie to a deade image of a dumbe and senselesse beaste that coulde doe them no good in steade of honoring the liuing God that had done so muche for them and bycause they did attribute theyr deliueraunce out of thraldome which they suffred in Egipt to the Image of a Calfe which none but their liuing and louing God did or could do And further I thinke you wold not be content with them that shoulde say you like wel of their worshipping of that golden calfe And as you thinke not wel of their doings therein So we can not like well of your doings herein for as those wicked and rebellious Iewes moste falselye and abhominably did attribute the wonderfull deliueraunce out of Egypt to a molten image of mettal and did worshippe the same which had neither life nor soule So you most wickedly and Idolatrouslye do worship and honor a péece of breade that hath neither life nor soule and do say this is the verye body of Christe the sonne of God that was borne on the Uirgine Marie which hath brought vs out of the spirituall bondage vnder y e wicked Pharao the Diuel and that hath saued vs by his death from endlesse damnation Doe not you here make a cake or a péece of breade that hath neither life nor soule to be Christ the sonne of God y t hath deliuered you out of Hel as these fond foolish Iews did make a dumbe and dead golden Calfe to be the liuing God that brought them out of the land of Egipt Yes verily and thereby you make that the cake hath done more for you than the golden calfe did for them for their bodies onlye were deliuered out of a shorte thraldome in Egipt but bothe youre bodyes and soules are deliuered oute of the endlesse tormentes in Hell So that hereby you approue that the Cake whiche you say is the very body of Christ and Christ is our onely redéemer out of hel hath done more for you than the Iewes coulde attribute that the golden Calfe hadde done for them And as they honored the golden Calfe for their God so you honor the cake of bread for your Christe O howe witlesse and senselesse are you can any of vs that are liuing soules and made to the Image of God bée equall wyth Chryste the sonne of God no truly and then can a péece of breade be Christ that is a dead and senselesse creature and that God hath made for vs to eate no it is