Selected quad for the lemma: opinion_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
opinion_n	bishop_n	order_n	presbyter_n	756	5	10.3774	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A59435	The fundamental charter of Presbytery as it hath been lately established in the kingdom of Scotland examin'd and disprov'd by the history, records, and publick transactions of our nation : together with a preface, wherein the vindicator of the Kirk is freely put in mind of his habitual infirmities.	Sage, John, 1652-1711.	1695 (1695)	Wing S286; ESTC R33997	278,278	616

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spotswood_n have_v do_v he_o before_o i_o a_o man_n he_o be_v who_o think_v no_o shame_n to_o acknowledge_v his_o error_n when_o he_o be_v convince_v of_o it_o for_o so_o it_o be_v that_o when_o after_o many_o year_n experience_n he_o have_v satisfy_v himself_o that_o parity_n have_v true_o prove_v the_o parent_n of_o confusion_n and_o disappoint_v all_o his_o expectation_n and_o when_o through_o age_n and_o sickness_n he_o be_v not_o able_a in_o person_n to_o attend_v the_o general_n assembly_n anno_fw-la 1600._o he_o give_v commission_n to_o some_o brethren_n to_o tell_v they_o as_o from_o he_o that_o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n of_o restore_v the_o ancient_a government_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n such_o be_v the_o man_n i_o say_v to_o who_o share_n it_o fall_v to_o be_v the_o first_o who_o public_o question_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o prelacy_n in_o scotland_n which_o be_v not_o do_v till_o the_o six_o day_n of_o august_n 1575._o as_o i_o say_v before_o no_o less_o than_o 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