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A57857 The good old way defended against the attempts of A.M. D.D. in his book called, An enquiry into the new opinions, (chiefly) propogated by the Presbyterians of Scotland : wherein the divine right of the government of the church by Presbyters acting in parity, is asserted, and the pretended divine right of the hierarchie is disproved, the antiquity of parity and novelty of Episcopacy as now pleaded for, are made manifest from scriptural arguments, and the testimony of the antient writers of the Christian-church, and the groundless and unreasonable confidence of some prelatick writers exposed : also, the debates about holy-days, schism, the church-government used among the first Scots Christians, and what else the enquirer chargeth us with, are clearly stated, and the truth in all these maintained against him : likewise, some animadversions on a book called The fundamental charter of Presbytery, in so far as it misrepresenteth the principles and way of our first reformers from popery, where the controversie about superintendents is fully handled, and the necessity which led our ancestors into that course for that time is discoursed / by Gilbert Rule ... Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1697 (1697) Wing R2221; ESTC R22637 293,951 328

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literarum_fw-la consultissimi_fw-la quorum_fw-la tamen_fw-la sententiam_fw-la prius_fw-la in_o ●erio_fw-la deinde_fw-la in_o waldensib●●_n postremo_fw-la in_o wiclefo_fw-la damnavit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v here_o evident_a that_o other_o as_o well_o as_o the_o scots_a presbyterian_o hold_v the_o opinion_n about_o parity_n to_o be_v no_o novelty_n also_o sixtus_n senens_fw-la biblioth_n sanct_n lib_n 6_o annotatio_fw-la 324_o look_v on_o jeromes_n opinion_n as_o be_v for_o the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n and_o cit_v as_o agree_v with_o he_o ambros_n chrysost_o sedul_a a_o selm_n thom_n valdens_n against_o wiclife_n who_o refute_v he_o as_o be_v of_o jeromes_n opinion_n in_o this_o and_o of_o alfonsus_n castrensis_n he_o say_v non_fw-la veretur_fw-la fateri_fw-la hieronimum_fw-la hâc_fw-la in_o parte_fw-la errasse_fw-la to_o these_o schoolman_n i_o shall_v add_v some_o of_o the_o canonist_n as_o plain_o against_o this_o jus_fw-la divinum_fw-la of_o 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god_n bishop_n be_v no_o more_o than_o presbyter_n i_o be_o far_o from_o infer_v from_o what_o have_v be_v say_v that_o all_o these_o be_v presbyterian_o but_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o some_o of_o they_o do_v not_o hold_v episcopacy_n to_o be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la as_o this_o enquirer_n do_v and_o that_o none_o of_o they_o look_v on_o parity_n as_o so_o late_a a_o invention_n as_o he_o do_v section_n vi._n his_o answer_n to_o our_o citation_n from_o jerome_n and_o augustine_n examine_v this_o learned_a author_n have_v single_v out_o the_o testimony_n bring_v by_o presbyterian_o out_o of_o these_o two_o father_n and_o promise_v p._n 65_o to_o examine_v they_o more_o narrow_o as_o be_v the_o chief_a strength_n of_o the_o presbyterian_o that_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o write_n of_o the_o ancient_n i_o shall_v adventure_v to_o examine_v his_o examination_n he_o tax_v blondel_n for_o inscribe_v his_o book_n apologia_fw-la pro_fw-la sententia_fw-la hieronimi_fw-la as_o if_o 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