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A31482 Certain briefe treatises written by diverse learned men, concerning the ancient and moderne government of the church : wherein both the primitive institution of episcopacie is maintained, and the lawfulnesse of the ordination of the Protestant ministers beyond the seas likewise defended, the particulars whereof are set downe in the leafe following. 1641 (1641) Wing C1687A; ESTC R8074 96,833 184

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