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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
opinion_n	bishop_n	order_n	presbyter_n	756	5	10.3774	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A27054	The true and only way of concord of all the Christian churches the desirableness of it, and the detection of false dividing terms / opened by Richard Baxter.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.	1680 (1680)	Wing B1432; ESTC R18778	282,721	509

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marry_v themselves_o declare_v it_o public_o to_o avoid_v scandal_n unless_o the_o severity_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n do_v accidental_o make_v it_o unlawful_a and_o in_o some_o country_n the_o sinful_a course_n of_o priest_n may_v make_v this_o a_o ordinary_a case_n and_o no_o reason_n can_v be_v give_v but_o that_o here_o it_o may_v be_v so_o sect._n xi_o many_o case_n may_v fall_v out_o in_o which_o no_o ordination_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o present_a solemnity_n may_v be_v necessary_a to_o this_o office_n 1._o in_o case_n a_o company_n of_o christian_n be_v cast_v upon_o a_o remote_a island_n where_o no_o ordainer_n can_v be_v have_v and_o yet_o some_o of_o they_o be_v qualify_v person_n it_o be_v sinful_a for_o they_o to_o forbear_v god_n public_a worship_n therefore_o they_o must_v choose_v the_o fit_a person_n to_o perform_v it_o viz._n preach_v prayer_n praise_n baptise_v and_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o that_o election_n sufficient_o design_v the_o 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that_o be_v within_o reach_n of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v ordain_v if_o ordination_n by_o diocesanes_n be_v ordinary_o necessary_a yet_o in_o those_o kingdom_n or_o country_n where_o there_o be_v none_o it_o can_v be_v have_v as_o in_o new-england_n and_o late_o in_o britain_n in_o belgia_n helvetia_n and_o other_o country_n some_o may_v say_v you_o ought_v to_o go_v for_o it_o though_o as_o far_o as_o from_o america_n hither_o and_o to_o seek_v it_o beyond_o the_o sea_n and_o in_o other_o land_n or_o stay_v till_o it_o may_v be_v have_v but_o i_o answer_v 1._o in_o some_o country_n the_o governor_n will_v not_o suffer_v diocesane_a ordination_n 2._o word_n be_v soon_o speak_v but_o to_o sail_v from_o america_n hither_o and_o that_o for_o every_o man_n that_o be_v to_o be_v ordain_v be_v not_o soon_o do_v some_o have_v not_o health_n to_o bear_v it_o at_o sea_n some_o have_v not_o money_n to_o pay_v for_o the_o voyage_n charge_n 3._o it_o be_v a_o sinful_a loss_n of_o a_o year_n time_n in_o which_o they_o may_v do_v god_n much_o service_n 4._o a_o year_n voyage_n by_o sea_n to_o and_o fro_o may_v hazard_v their_o life_n and_o so_o frustrate_a all_o their_o end_n 5._o some_o prince_n and_o state_n forbid_v their_o subject_n to_o be_v ordain_v in_o foreign_a land_n as_o we_o forbid_v romish_a ordination_n lest_o it_o draw_v a_o foreign_a power_n on_o they_o 6._o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o deny_v god_n his_o public_a worship_n and_o ourselves_o the_o benefit_n by_o so_o long_a delay_n 7._o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o temper_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o ever_o subject_v ceremony_n rite_n and_o external_n order_n to_o moral_n and_o to_o man_n good_a and_o the_o great_a ends._n 8._o and_o it_o be_v a_o wrong_n to_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n for_o man_n to_o feign_v that_o the_o great_a wise_a and_o merciful_a god_n lay_v so_o great_a a_o stress_n upon_o a_o ceremony_n or_o rite_n or_o outward_a order_n as_o to_o damn_v soul_n and_o deny_v his_o own_o worship_n where_o it_o can_v be_v have_v 4._o and_o this_o ordination_n be_v not_o necessary_a in_o case_n the_o ordainer_n be_v grow_v so_o wicked_a or_o heretical_a as_o that_o they_o will_v ordain_v no_o good_a and_o orthodox_n man_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v of_o their_o own_o sinful_a way_n 5._o and_o in_o case_n the_o ordainer_n require_v as_o necessary_a any_o one_o unlawful_a thing_n subscription_n profession_n vow_n or_o practice_n if_o any_o say_v that_o god_n will_v never_o permit_v we_o to_o fall_v under_o such_o necessity_n they_o must_v prove_v it_o and_o experience_n disprove_v it_o sect._n xii_o and_o if_o in_o all_o such_o case_n no_o ordination_n be_v necessary_a much_o less_o be_v diocesane_n ordination_n necessary_a in_o all_o case_n and_o place_n as_o 1._o in_o country_n where_o no_o diocesanes_n be_v or_o be_v near_o 2._o in_o country_n where_o they_o or_o their_o ordination_n be_v not_o endure_v by_o the_o governor_n 3._o in_o country_n where_o the_o people_n be_v in_o judgement_n against_o it_o will_v have_v no_o pastor_n so_o ordain_v it_o be_v not_o better_a to_o have_v none_o at_o all_o 4._o in_o country_n where_o war_n do_v hinder_v it_o 5._o when_o the_o diocesanes_n themselves_o will_v not_o venture_v to_o ordain_v for_o fear_v of_o suffer_v for_o it_o 6._o in_o country_n where_o the_o bishop_n be_v so_o corrupt_v that_o they_o refuse_v all_o that_o be_v true_o fit_a 7._o or_o where_o they_o refuse_v all_o who_o the_o people_n either_o choose_v or_o will_v consent_v to_o and_o the_o bishop_n and_o people_n can_v agree_v on_o the_o same_o man._n 8._o or_o wherever_o the_o diocesanes_n impose_v unlawful_a covenant_n promise_n profession_n subscription_n vow_n oath_n or_o practice_n without_o which_o they_o will_v not_o ordain_v on_o some_o or_o other_o of_o these_o account_n a_o romanist_n will_v not_o be_v ordain_v by_o a_o greek_a or_o protestant_n or_o armenian_a etc._n etc._n and_o a_o greek_a or_o protestant_n will_v not_o be_v ordain_v by_o a_o papist_n suppose_v something_o to_o be_v unlawful_a 9_o but_o when_o a_o parochial_a bishop_n may_v be_v the_o ordainer_n in_o such_o case_n the_o validity_n will_v not_o be_v deny_v by_o most_o episcopal_a divine_n 10._o and_o it_o be_v true_o as_o valid_a in_o such_o case_n when_o 1._o senior_n presbyter_n 2._o that_o be_v authorize_v by_o the_o magistrate_n 3._o especial_o that_o be_v chief_a pastor_n in_o city_n and_o have_v curate_n under_o they_o do_v ordain_v though_o some_o deny_v to_o call_v they_o bishop_n 11._o as_o the_o erastians_n think_n that_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n may_v design_v the_o person_n by_o the_o people_n consent_n without_o any_o other_o ordination_n so_o musculus_fw-la and_o some_o other_o protestant_n think_v that_o a_o fit_a person_n design_v by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o accept_v by_o the_o people_n need_v not_o question_v his_o call_n to_o the_o office_n and_o it_o be_v hard_a to_o disprove_v they_o 12._o if_o the_o opinion_n of_o many_o papist_n and_o protestant_n hold_v true_a that_o a_o bishop_n differ_v not_o from_o a_o presbyter_n in_o order_n or_o office_n but_o in_o degree_n as_o the_o foreman_n of_o a_o jury_n or_o the_o precedent_n of_o a_o synod_n 〈◊〉_d college_n or_o council_n of_o state_n etc._n etc._n then_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n but_o the_o magistrate_n may_v make_v a_o bishop_n of_o a_o presbyter_n as_o he_o may_v make_v a_o precedent_n of_o a_o college_n or_o a_o mayor_n of_o a_o corporation_n for_o then_o the_o difference_n be_v but_o in_o the_o accident_n of_o the_o office_n and_o the_o king_n be_v governor_n of_o the_o church_n as_o far_o as_o the_o sword_n be_v to_o govern_v and_o special_o the_o determiner_n of_o mere_a accident_n and_o circumstance_n circa_fw-la sacra_fw-la why_o may_v he_o not_o

the_o church_n key_n of_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n only_o themselves_o othe●●_n delegate_v they_o to_o presbyter_n and_o thereby_o tell_v the_o people_n that_o presbyter_n be_v capable_a of_o they_o other_o which_o be_v the_o case_n with_o we_o in_o england_n do_v commit_v they_o to_o lay-chancellor_n who_o excommunicate_a and_o absolve_v by_o sentence_n command_v a_o priest_n to_o publish_v it_o 3._o some_o diocesan_n may_v if_o they_o please_v allow_v the_o parish-priest_n to_o be_v episcopus_fw-la gregis_fw-la and_o to_o exercise_v so_o much_o of_o his_o true_a office_n in_o his_o parish_n as_o shall_v keep_v up_o some_o tolerable_a purity_n order_n and_o discipline_n themselves_o receive_v appeal_n and_o be_v episcopi_fw-la pastorum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v rare_a i_o know_v none_o such_o but_o they_o leave_v the_o parish-priest_n no_o power_n so_o much_o as_o to_o suspend_v his_o own_o act_n in_o administer_a baptism_n or_o the_o eucharist_n or_o pronounce_v decree_v 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will_v be_v promote_v by_o some_o diocesan_n but_o universal_a concord_n will_v never_o be_v so_o attain_v by_o they_o sect._n xx._n there_o be_v many_o learned_a divine_n who_o think_v that_o form_n of_o church-government_n be_v mutable_a and_o not_o necessary_a to_o all_o time_n and_o place_n and_o that_o as_o prudence_n may_v change_v other_o rite_n circumstance_n and_o order_n so_o it_o may_v do_v this_o and_o some_o papist_n be_v of_o this_o mind_n read_v card._n cusanus_fw-la de_fw-la concordia_fw-la and_o gorson_n de_fw-fr auferibilitate_fw-la papae_fw-la and_o the_o italian_a bishop_n at_o trent_n be_v for_o the_o dependence_n of_o bishop_n on_o the_o pope_n as_o the_o maker_n of_o their_o order_n or_o giver_n of_o their_o power_n and_o if_o so_o it_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o be_v necessary_a too_o catholic_n unity_n which_o may_v itself_o be_v change_v and_o most_o protestant_n and_o papist_n hold_v that_o man_n may_v turn_v diocesan_n bishop_n again_o into_o parochial_a if_o they_o see_v cause_n and_o all_o confess_v that_o man_n may_v set_v up_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o every_o city_n which_o in_o the_o old_a sense_n be_v in_o every_o great_a town_n like_o our_o corporation_n or_o market-town_n which_o be_v great_o different_a from_o the_o roman_a or_o the_o english_a or_o the_o french_a or_o the_o italian_a diocese_n sect._n xxi_o yea_o there_o be_v very_o learned_a divine_n that_o think_v no_o form_n of_o church-government_n be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la or_o of_o divine_a determinate_a institution_n so_o though_o doctor_n edward_n reynolds_n late_a bishop_n of_o n●rwich_n and_o doctor_n stillingfleet_n do_v not_o only_o think_v so_o himself_o but_o have_v cite_v great_a and_o many_o patron_n of_o that_o opinion_n and_o bring_v a_o great_a many_o of_o argument_n for_o it_o in_o his_o irenicon_n be_v these_o in_o the_o right_n or_o wrong_n no_o man_n of_o this_o opinion_n can_v believe_v any_o one_o form_n of_o government_n necessary_a to_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n or_o fit_a to_o be_v the_o term_n of_o universal_a concord_n and_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o some_o will_v still_o be_v of_o their_o opinion_n beside_o those_o that_o account_v diocesan_n unlawful_a chap._n vi_o the_o universal_a church_n will_v never_o unite_v in_o general_a council_n as_o their_o head_n or_o as_o necessary_a to_o union_n sect._n i._n those_o that_o be_v not_o for_o the_o absolute_a sovereignty_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n over_o all_o the_o world_n do_v yet_o many_o of_o they_o think_v that_o they_o be_v very_o moderate_a man_n if_o they_o hold_v but_o the_o superiority_n of_o council_n above_o the_o pope_n or_o limit_v the_o pope_n power_n to_o the_o advice_n and_o consent_n of_o council_n take_v they_o to_o be_v necessary_a to_o unity_n but_o the_o contrary_n be_v very_o easy_o prove_v much_o more_o their_o insufficiency_n sect._n ii_o 1._o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o church_n have_v union_n before_o there_o be_v any_o general_a council_n the_o first_o at_o nice_a be_v 310_o year_n at_o least_o if_o not_o more_o after_o the_o birth_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v none_o pretend_v to_o be_v before_o that_o by_o any_o judicious_a man_n they_o that_o instance_n in_o the_o consultation_n of_o the_o apostle_n elder_n and_o brethren_n at_o jerusalem_n act_v 2._o may_v easy_o see_v reason_n to_o convince_v they_o that_o those_o be_v but_o the_o apostle_n elder_n and_o brethren_n that_o be_v ordinary_o then_o resident_a at_o one_o city_n and_o church_n and_o such_o as_o pretend_v not_o to_o be_v governor_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n elder_n and_o brethren_n who_o then_o be_v absent_a about_o the_o world_n the_o pope_n and_o his_o cardinal_n may_v say_v they_o be_v a_o general_n council_n but_o who_o will_v believe_v they_o these_o at_o jerusalem_n be_v not_o send_v from_o all_o the_o church_n but_o one_o of_o the_o church_n send_v to_o they_o as_o fit_a to_o advise_v they_o and_o as_o be_v man_n most_o certain_o and_o eminent_o inspire_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n it_o be_v true_a that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n have_v a_o govern_v power_n over_o all_o the_o church_n and_o if_o they_o will_v impose_v on_o we_o no_o other_o sort_n of_o general_n council_n as_o so_o necessary_a but_o such_o as_o have_v such_o office_n power_n and_o infallibility_n and_o dwell_v together_o in_o one_o house_n or_o place_n and_o be_v not_o send_v from_o other_o church_n as_o their_o representative_n and_o can_v prove_v such_o a_o power_n we_o shall_v submit_v to_o such_o a_o council_n pighius_fw-la have_v say_v enough_o of_o that_o novelty_n and_o against_o the_o govern_n power_n of_o general_n council_n that_o which_o be_v not_o essential_a to_o the_o church_n 310_o year_n be_v not_o so_o now_o sect._n iii_o 2._o if_o general_a council_n be_v the_o necessary_a mean_n of_o union_n it_o be_v either_o for_o their_o law_n or_o their_o judgement_n and_o it_o be_v either_o past_a council_n or_o present_a one_o or_o both_o 1._o if_o it_o be_v the_o law_n of_o past_a council_n than_o one_o council_n that_o can_v make_v law_n enough_o at_o first_o may_v serve_v without_o any_o after-council_n and_o if_o it_o be_v enough_o that_o there_o have_v be_v general_a council_n why_o be_v not_o the_o church_n unite_v by_o they_o then_o it_o be_v no_o matter_n if_o there_o never_o be_v any_o more_o and_o why_o may_v not_o christ_n own_a law_n serve_v for_o church_n union_n 2._o but_o if_o it_o be_v present_a council_n that_o be_v necessary_a for_o law_n or_o judgement_n than_o the_o church_n be_v now_o no_o church_n without_o they_o sect._n iu._n 3._o there_o be_v now_o no_o general_n council_n in_o the_o world_n and_o yet_o the_o church_n have_v essential_a union_n nay_o as_o it_o be_v long_o since_o there_o be_v one_o in_o their_o own_o account_n so_o we_o know_v not_o whether_o ever_o there_o will_v be_v more_o the_o interest_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v against_o it_o sect._n v._n 4._o the_o great_a disagreement_n that_o be_v about_o council_n in_o the_o christian_a world_n prove_v that_o they_o can_v never_o be_v the_o term_n of_o universal_a agreement_n 1._o it_o be_v not_o agree_v who_o must_v call_v they_o 2._o nor_o out_o of_o what_o christian_a country_n they_o must_v come_v whether_o all_o or_o but_o some_o and_o which_o the_o papist_n say_v that_o three_o part_n of_o christian_n may_v be_v absent_a or_o have_v no_o right_a to_o send_v be_v heretic_n or_o schismatic_n and_o other_o think_v papist_n to_o be_v heretic_n schismatic_n and_o antichristian_a 3._o nor_o what_o number_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v a_o council_n 4._o nor_o in_o what_o country_n they_o must_v meet_v 5._o nor_o what_o their_o work_n be_v 6._o nor_o what_o power_n they_o have_v 7._o nor_o how_o far_o they_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v 8._o nor_o which_o be_v to_o be_v take_v for_o approve_a council_n and_o which_o not_o 9_o nor_o