Selected quad for the lemma: opinion_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
opinion_n	bishop_n	order_n	presbyter_n	756	5	10.3774	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A25400	Of episcopacy three epistles of Peter Moulin ... / answered by ... Lancelot Andrews ... ; translated for the benefit of the publike.; Responsiones ad Petri Molinaei epistolas tres. English	Andrewes, Lancelot, 1555-1626.; Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.	1647 (1647)	Wing A3143; ESTC R10969	34,395	66

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