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A92318 A briefe and perfect relation, of the answeres and replies of Thomas Earle of Strafford; to the articles exhibited against him, by the House of Commons on the thirteenth of Aprill, An. Dom. 1641.. Strafford, Thomas Wentworth, Earl of, 1593-1641.; S. R. 1647 (1647) Wing R68; Thomason E417_19; ESTC R203328 82,767 116

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