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A21070 The application of the lavves of England for Catholike priesthood and the Sacrifice of the Masse. Directed to the lords of his Maiesties most honourable priuie counsell, iudges, iustices, and other studients of the law. Pendryck, William, 1583-1650. 1623 (1623) STC 7435; ESTC S117587 48,936 110

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