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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
opinion_n	affirm_v	church_n	doctrine_n	594	5	5.8934	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A91787	An ansvver to the London ministers letter: from them to his Excellency & his Counsel of VVar; as also an answer to John Geree's book, entituled, Might overcomming right; with an answer to a book, entituled, The Armies remembrancer. Wherein it appears the accusations of the Army are unjust, and the Armies proceedings justified by the Word of God, and by the light of nature and reason. Also a discovery of that learning, and ordination these ministers have, and the vanity and insufficiencie thereof, by the Word of God, and that those are the things with which they delude and deceive the people. / By Samuel Richardson.	Richardson, Samuel, fl. 1643-1658.	1649 (1649)	Wing R1402; Thomason E540_8; ESTC R203398	36,328	40

it also the people are not made for the Magistrates but the Magistrates for the people therefore they must give place or be forced to do so when it is for the Kingdomes good the Parliaments priviledges are the peoples therefore they did them no wrong when they took them from them and so reserved them for the people as if all that I have is not my own but others when they take it from me they take but their own I know your judgement is contrary to mine but mine is as infallible as yours if you can prove the contrary I will give you leave to judge in the mean time if you will judge what you please I will take the same liberty the Parliaments power which they acknowledged lawfully set over them then their expressions and practises declare they are not enemies to authority If at any time a Precept of God must be suspended with upon a necessity yet we suppose that you will grant that this necessity must be absolute present cleare not doubtfull and conjecturall We grant it and they declare it was cleare to them and their Party though it be not so to you whose eyes the god of this World hath blinded so that you cannot see The Members seized on were not mad nor out of their wits but sober then the greater was their fact and the more necessity there was to seize on them for if they doe so when sober we cannot expect no better but much worse when they are mad We appeale to your conscience if you would not have condemned others if done as you have done if upon the same Grounds and Reasons I doe not beleeve we ought to condemne them it appeares to us they have done well I desire to know if the cause did appeare so to you to be of so great necessity and you were able in the same way to help your selves others whether would you not act according to your understandings consciences If no then you in effect say that if you felinto a ditch there would you lye and not get out If you would use the best way for your self and others safety we doe no more They say The Army are despisers and destroyers of Authoritie injurious and usurpers of it we are as fully perswaded that they are lovers and affectors of it securers and Saviours of an authority from being uselesse in good from being lost You say We are bound by oath to preserve with our lives estates the Priviledges of Parliament and Covenant were you of this minde when you Petitioned the Parliament you might be free in Person and Purse from any part of the charge of this Warre When I heard of that Petition at the beginning of this Parliament I thought it was either covetousnesse or hypocrisie to be freed both in Person and Purse and yet so vehemently presse others to both I desire those in Authority to consider that you may according to your abilitie beare the burthen with the rest Geree asketh If the High Sheriffe because he hath power to rescue one whom he in his conscience knowes is unjustly sentenced to death by the Judge c. I ask him If the people did well or ill in rescuing Jonathan that he dyed not 1 Sam. 14. 45. If a mans life is indangered in a legall way though unjustly he nor others may not rescue him the command of Authority if legall are obligatory to doe or if unjust patient to suffer What for not obeying unlawfull commands God hath given them no such power for they are for the praise of them that doe well therefore it s not Gods will that we should be destroyed for doing well If ye doe well who will harme you 1 Pet. 3. 18. Therefore they have no authority from God to doe it You must submit and suffer not resist as servant duty is 1 Pet. 2. 18 19. So in higher powers we may not resist 1 Pet. 4. 15. if God hath given him no such power if I resist I resist not the ordinance of God nor the power of God If I can avoyd it doe not I increase his sin and am guilty of my owne death If I must suffer and not resist if the Magistrate will take away my life unjustly it s not lawfull for me to make an escape from the present danger if not nor may a servant doe so I according to your opinion must be so New Lights tell us That we need not suffer but when me are evill doers We say He need not if he can help it if he cannot there is necessity for it This was not the Doctrin of the Primitive Churches that you affirme was not the Doctrine of Christ That we are to suffer for for well doing when we may lawfully prevent it Did not Paul use meanes to escape when he was let downe from the window in a basket So the Church met privately because of the Jewes the Saints suffered and they could not help it If a servant in strength can preserve himselfe he runs himselfe into a greater inconvenience by reason of the Magistrates power which he cannot prevent the Christians when but a few were helplesse and so suffered the Waldenses were so persecuted by the Popes power that they fled into the Mountaines where on hundred dyed in a night with hunger and cold and much suffering they had they after gathered themselves together with Bowes and Arrowes and fled and took the vantage of a narrow passage the Popes Army was twenty thousand they were divided in two or three Companies in their pride but the Christians was glad they were not all in a Body At the narrow passage they shot and slew so many of their enemies as they were put to flight In their slight on the Mountaine of Piedimont God sent a thick Mist that they could not see before them so that they fell from the edge of the Mountaine and brake their necks and dyed Horse and Rider Here God appeared from heaven and incouraged them and gave them the victory and at severall times the Popes Army had such ill success that one of the Polititians of the Popes side said that they lost ten to one of the Waldenses and that if the Pope did not cease Warring with them it would in danger the losse of the Popes Dominion so that the Pope was glad to make peace with them and each side consented to Articles See the History of the Waldenses and Abbigenses written by Luther So the Thabirites in Bohemia under Zi●ca John H●…se and Jeremy Pragus were bu●●● for Hereticks at the Councel of Constance they in defence of them and that they fell to warres John Zisca was their Captain he fought eleaven pitcht field Battel● and ever conquered they were good people and God was with them Connade Butherbridge in the word of Orphan●…s these mens practise God owns but you condemne Also suppose a Thief beset me to rob or kill am I not to escape from him if I can Shall I