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A91973 Pædo-baptisme: or, the baptizing of infants justified: by the judgement and practice of ancient and moderne Protestant divines, both foraine, and of this nation: clearly proving the absolute necessity of baptizing infants, from the authority of sacred scripture and the force of undeniable reason. Together with an excellent letter of Mr. John Philpots to the same purpose. / Collected by Robert Ram, minister of Spalding in Lincolnshire. Published by authority. Ram, Robert, d. 1657.; Philpot, John, 1516-1555. 1645 (1645) Wing R194; Thomason E276_12; ESTC R209870 23,751 33

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