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A46986 A vindication of the Bishop of Condom's Exposition of the doctrine of the Catholic Church in answer to a book entituled, An exposition of the doctrine of the Church of England, &c. : with a letter from the said Bishop. Johnston, Joseph, d. 1723. 1686 (1686) Wing J871; ESTC R2428 69,931 128

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the_o faithful_a agree_v in_o this_o but_o as_o to_o the_o manner_n how_o he_o be_v there_o that_o be_v a_o disputable_a question_n this_o be_v in_o short_a the_o intent_n of_o that_o article_n which_o be_v far_o from_o what_o this_o author_n have_v impose_v upon_o he_o next_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o generality_n of_o our_o commanion_n confess_v that_o if_o the_o word_n of_o consecration_n refer_v to_o the_o bread_n which_o be_v change_v by_o they_o they_o must_v be_v take_v in_o their_o figurative_a sense_n 75._o pag._n 74_o 75._o but_o this_o have_v be_v sufficient_o clear_v already_o last_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o doctrine_n be_v no_o matter_n of_o faith_n till_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n 1200_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o that_o have_v not_o that_o and_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n since_o interpose_v it_o will_v not_o have_v be_v so_o to_o this_o very_a day_n what_o doctrine_n do_v he_o here_o mean_a not_o that_o of_o the_o school_n concern_v the_o manner_n 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this_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n we_o may_v gather_v first_o that_o the_o scholastic_o as_o scotus_n and_o gabriel_n be_v to_o be_v correct_v and_o second_o that_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v ancient_a and_o perpetual_o believe_v in_o the_o church_n est_fw-la non_fw-la suerit_fw-la tam_fw-la apertè_fw-la explicata_fw-la sicut_fw-la mode_n est_fw-la though_o perhaps_o in_o former_a time_n it_o be_v not_o so_o full_o explicate_v as_o now_o it_o be_v in_o the_o last_o place_n he_o quote_v lombard_n l._n 4._o dist_n 11._o lit._n a._n but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o lombard_n speak_v there_o only_o of_o a_o scholastic_a tenet_n which_o to_o the_o end_n you_o may_v see_v as_o also_o what_o be_v esteem_v of_o faith_n in_o his_o time_n before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n i_o will_v give_v you_o a_o short_a account_n of_o his_o whole_a doctrine_n as_o to_o this_o point_n he_o begin_v his_o eight_o distinction_n tell_v we_o b._n lomb._n in_o 4._o do_v 8._o lit._n b._n that_o the_o bless_a 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the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o be_v before_o that_o be_v of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o the_o thing_n signify_v be_v twofold_a the_o one_o contain_v under_o those_o species_n and_o signify_v by_o they_o the_o other_o signify_v but_o not_o contain_v the_o thing_n contain_v and_o signify_v be_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n which_o he_o take_v from_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o the_o blood_n which_o he_o shed_v for_o we_o but_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v signify_v and_o not_o contain_v be_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o who_o be_v predestinate_v call_v justify_v and_o glorify_v so_o that_o there_o be_v say_v he_o three_o thing_n to_o be_v distinguish_v one_o which_o be_v only_o a_o sacrament_n and_o not_o the_o thing_n viz._n the_o visible_a species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n another_o which_o be_v the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o thing_n viz._n the_o proper_a flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o a_o three_o which_o be_v the_o thing_n and_o not_o the_o sacrament_n viz
but_o any_o thing_n must_v pass_v now_o to_o deceive_v the_o vulgar_a though_o man_n of_o sense_n see_v the_o contrary_n another_o argument_n he_o bring_v to_o delude_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v to_o make_v her_o apss_n only_o for_o a_o particular_a church_n but_o how_o often_o have_v they_o be_v tell_v that_o catholic_n do_v not_o take_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o it_o be_v the_o suburbican_n diocese_n to_o be_v the_o catholic_a church_n but_o all_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o communion_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a church_n appear_v by_o the_o mark_n of_o it_o deliver_v in_o the_o nicene_n creed_n no_o other_o church_n be_v able_a to_o pretend_v to_o that_o unity_n sanctity_n universality_n and_o antiquity_n which_o she_o be_v manifest_o invest_v with_o the_o true_a church_n must_v be_v one_o and_o by_o conquence_n free_a from_o schism_n which_o destroy_v that_o notion_n which_o some_o of_o late_o have_v hold_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v that_o catholic_a church_n which_o be_v compose_v of_o all_o christian_n the_o roman_a the_o grecian_n the_o armenian_n prtoestants_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n though_o they_o may_v be_v rot_a one_o and_o this_o notion_n our_o author_n seem_v to_o have_v of_o it_o when_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v in_o all_o age_n make_v up_o but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n 77._o pag._n 77._o and_o that_o not_o always_o the_o great_a neither_o the_o true_a church_n must_v be_v also_o holy_a and_o must_v by_o consequence_n be_v free_a from_o heresy_n and_o teach_v no_o erroneous_a doctrine_n which_o how_o it_o stand_v with_o that_o idea_n which_o this_o author_n insinuate_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v err_v event_n in_o necessary_a point_n of_o faith_n and_o be_v yet_o a_o member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n be_v worthy_a a_o mature_a consideration_n this_o indeed_o make_v the_o first_o reformer_n who_o accuse_v the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n of_o idolatry_n and_o superstition_n say_v that_o the_o church_n of_o jesus_n christ_n be_v hide_v flee_v into_o the_o wilderness_n 4._o see_v the_o protestant_a author_n cite_v by_o brereley_o in_o his_o protestant_a apology_n tract_n 2._o cap._n 1._o sect._n 4._o and_o invisible_a for_o 1000_o or_o 1200_o year_n that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n antichristian_a but_o the_o man_n of_o our_o age_n be_v sufficient_o convince_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o have_v king_n and_o queen_n for_o nurse_n father_n and_o nurse_n mother_n that_o she_o be_v to_o have_v pastor_n and_o teacher_n in_o all_o age_n 260._o whitaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 3._o p._n 260._o that_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o preach_a of_o the_o true_a word_n of_o god_n be_v the_o essential_a propriety_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o all_o these_o mark_n do_v necessary_o denote_v a_o visible_a church_n and_o find_v moreover_o they_o can_v never_o prove_v any_o christian_a king_n before_o luther_n convert_v to_o protestancy_n or_o any_o visible_a pastor_n or_o teacher_n of_o their_o doctrine_n or_o any_o assembly_n that_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n as_o they_o do_v or_o preach_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o their_o sense_n and_o find_v they_o can_v not_o deny_v the_o conversion_n of_o many_o king_n and_o nation_n to_o the_o religion_n establish_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n find_v themselves_o oblige_v also_o to_o admit_v she_o as_o a_o part_n of_o the_o true_a church_n though_o a_o corrupt_a one_o and_o will_v rather_o destroy_v the_o sanctity_n of_o christ_n church_n and_o her_o unity_n than_o acknowledge_v themselves_o to_o be_v just_o cut_v off_o from_o be_v member_n of_o she_o the_o three_o mark_n be_v catholic_a which_o be_v universal_a as_o to_o place_v time_n and_o doctrine_n that_o church_n can_v be_v the_o true_a church_n the_o sound_n whereof_o be_v not_o go_v through_o the_o whole_a earth_n and_o be_v not_o itself_o spread_v over_o and_o visible_a in_o all_o nation_n that_o can_v be_v the_o true_a church_n which_o have_v not_o continue_v in_o all_o age_n visible_a holy_a and_o uniform_a neither_o last_o can_v that_o be_v the_o true_a church_n which_o either_o add_v or_o diminish_v from_o the_o doctrine_n reveal_v by_o god_n to_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n so_o that_o those_o be_v as_o guilty_a of_o the_o breach_n of_o faith_n who_o refuse_v to_o believe_v what_o have_v be_v teach_v as_o those_o who_o impose_v new_a doctrine_n the_o last_o mark_n of_o the_o church_n be_v that_o she_o must_v be_v apostolic_a that_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o doctrine_n and_o faith_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o derive_v a_o continual_a succession_n from_o they_o all_o which_o mark_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v applicable_a to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n or_o to_o the_o universal_a church_n according_a to_o the_o notion_n give_v of_o it_o be_v these_o late_a writer_n that_o a_o man_n of_o the_o small_a judgement_n if_o impartial_a can_v but_o see_v the_o fallacy_n thereof_o art_fw-la xxii_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a see_v and_o of_o episcopacy_n as_o for_o his_o two_o other_o article_n the_o opinion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o of_o the_o see_v apostolic_a and_o episcopacy_n i_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v to_o he_o but_o to_o desire_v he_o to_o remember_v his_o promise_n 81._o pag._n 81._o and_o to_o inquire_v what_o be_v the_o authority_n the_o ancient_a council_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v acknowledge_v and_o the_o holy_a father_n have_v always_o teach_v the_o faithful_a to_o give_v to_o the_o successor_n to_o st._n peter_n and_o whether_o the_o first_o four_o general_n council_n may_v not_o be_v term_v neither_o general_n nor_o free_a with_o as_o much_o reason_n as_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n or_o those_o other_o acknowledge_v by_o all_o the_o western_a world_n and_o most_o of_o the_o eastern_a church_n before_o the_o new_a pretend_a reformation_n the_o conclusion_n i_o come_v now_o to_o his_o close_n in_o which_o he_o sum_v up_o all_o the_o poison_n of_o his_o book_n lay_n what_o he_o please_v to_o our_o charge_n and_o draw_v what_o consequence_n he_o will_v to_o inflame_v his_o reader_n he_o tell_v we_o of_o bitter_a and_o unchristian_a hatred_n we_o have_v conceive_v against_o they_o 82._o pag._n 82._o and_o desire_n to_o know_v what_o warrant_v we_o have_v for_o it_o i_o desire_v all_o unprejudiced_a person_n to_o consider_v whether_o we_o have_v not_o more_o reason_n to_o complain_v than_o he_o here_o be_v a_o church_n establish_v in_o england_n truth_n deliver_v to_o she_o with_o christianity_n itself_o be_v here_o practise_v and_o preach_v religious_a house_n be_v here_o endow_v with_o ample_a revenue_n etc._n etc._n when_o behold_v a_o pretend_a reformation_n come_v destroy_v this_o church_n dissolve_v all_o the_o constitution_n of_o it_o change_v the_o establish_a doctrine_n and_o alter_v many_o of_o its_o ancient_a practice_n pull_v down_o religious_a house_n and_o church_n alienates_v the_o revenue_n turn_v the_o religious_a inhabitant_n into_o the_o wide_a world_n make_v law_n against_o all_o those_o who_o shall_v defend_v that_o doctrine_n imprisonment_n loss_n of_o good_n and_o fortune_n nay_o even_o of_o life_n itself_o be_v the_o punishment_n ordain_v for_o they_o who_o be_v find_v guilty_a of_o practise_v or_o preach_v that_o religion_n and_o what_o less_o can_v such_o a_o church_n do_v than_o excommunicate_a they_o who_o thus_o renounce_v her_o doctrine_n contemn_v her_o authority_n and_o persecute_v her_o child_n but_o this_o excommunication_n must_v be_v call_v severity_n and_o unchristian_a hatred_n and_o if_o we_o declare_v that_o all_o those_o who_o forsake_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n and_o they_o who_o will_v not_o acquiess_v to_o those_o point_n of_o faith_n which_o god_n have_v reveal_v and_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n have_v declare_v to_o have_v be_v so_o reveal_v be_v guilty_a of_o heresy_n and_o that_o heresy_n and_o schism_n will_v bring_v inevitable_a damnation_n to_o all_o those_o who_o die_v without_o repent_v of_o they_o we_o must_v be_v esteem_v uncharitable_a i_o must_v therefore_o retort_n his_o popular_a argument_n and_o ask_v he_o and_o all_o unprejudiced_a protestant_n what_o they_o can_v find_v in_o all_o our_o doctrine_n when_o true_o represent_v to_o warrant_v that_o bitter_a and_o unchristian_a hatred_n they_o have_v conceive_v against_o we_o a_o hatred_n which_o have_v occasion_v so_o many_o penal_a and_o sanguinary_a law_n and_o still_o make_v they_o use_v all_o endeavour_n to_o keep_v they_o in_o full_a force_n against_o