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A16337 A short and priuate discourse betweene Mr. Bolton and one M.S. concerning vsury. Published by E.B. by Mr. Boltons owne coppy Bolton, Robert, 1572-1631.; Bagshaw, Edward, d. 1662. 1637 (1637) STC 3249; ESTC S106474 41,120 88

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