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A16828 A true, sincere and modest defence, of English Catholiques that suffer for their faith both at home and abrode against a false, seditious and slanderous libel intituled; The exectuion of iustice in England. VVherein is declared, hovv vniustlie the Protestants doe charge Catholiques vvith treason ... Allen, William, 1532-1594. 1584 (1584) STC 373; ESTC S100110 150,813 230

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al in that they haue submitted them selues and their scepters to the sweet yoke of Christ are subiect to discipline and to their Pastors authoritie no lesse thē other sheepe of his fould And although the state regiment policy power temporal The Ciuil gouernour subiect to the spiritual amongst Christians be in it self alwayes of distinct nature qualitie and condition from the gouernment Ecclesiastical and spiritual common weath called the Church or bodie mystical of Christ and the Magistrat spiritual and ciuil diuers and distinct and sometime so far that th' one hath no dependance of th' other nor subalternation to th' other in respect of them selues as it is in the Churches of God residing in heathē kingdomes and was in th'Apostles times vnder the Pagane Emperours yet now where the lawes of Christ are receiued and the bodies politique and mistical the Church and Ciuil state the Magistrate Ecclesiastical and tēporal cōcurre in their kindes together though euer of distinct regiments natures and endes ther is such a concurrence and subalternation betwixt both that th' inferior of the two which is the Ciuil state must needes in matters perteining anie way ether directlie or indirectlie to the honor of God and benefit of the soule be subiect to the spiritual and take direction from the same The condition of thes two powers as S. Gregorie Nazianzen most excellentlie resembleth it is like vnto the distinct state of the same spirit and bodie In Orati ad popul trepidātem Impera commotum or flesh in a man wher ether of them hauing their proper and peculiar operations endes and obiects which in other natures may be seuered as in Brutes wher flesh is not spirit Nazians similitude to expresse the subordinatiō of Ciuil and of Spiritual gouernmēt in Angels wher spirit is but not flesh are yet in man conioined in person and neuerthelesse so distinct in faculties and operations that the flesh hath her actions peculiar and the soule hers but not without al subalternation or dependance Where we see euidentlie that in case the operations of the bodie be contrarie to th' end weale and iust desires of the soule the spirite may and must commaund ouerrule and chastise the bodie and as superior appointeth fasting and other afflictions though with some detriment to the flesh commanding the eyes not to see the tonge not to speake and so forth So likewise the power Political hath her Princes Lawes Tribunals and the Spiritual her Prelates Canons Counsels Iudgements and thes when the Princes are Pagans wholy separate but in Christian Common-wealths ioined though not confounded nor yet the Spiritual turned into the Temporal or subiect by peruerse order as it is now in England to the same but the Ciuil which in deed is the inferior subordinate and in some cases subiect to the Ecclesiastical though so lōg as the temporal State is no hinderance to eternal felicitie the glory of Christs kingdome th' other intermedleth not with her actions but alloweth defendeth honoreth and in particular Common-wealthes obeyeth the same Yet wher it is otherwise VVhen the Spiritual gouernmēt is to correct the Temporal and the temporal power resisteth God or hindreth the proceeding of the people to saluation ther the Spiritual hath right to correct the Temporal and to procure by al meanes possible that the terrene kingdome giue no annoyance to the State of the Church which now adorned in the new Testamēt with the power of Christs Priesthood and with seueral and distinct officers appointed by the Holie-ghost must needes so far excel the terrene state and dominatiō as the Sonne passeth the Moone the soule the bodie and heauen the earth By reason of which excellencie and preeminence aboue al states and men without exception of Prince or other our Lord proclameth in his Gospel Math. 18 that who soeuer obeyeth not or heareth not the Church must be taken and vsed no otherwise then as a Heathen This being so plaine and in truth so beneficial to the verie Kinges and Commō-welthes them selues that the preseruation of both specially standeth vpon this concurrence with the Church and Priesthood and with the due subalternation of the temporal to the spiritual regiment and which al Kinges that be not for punishment of their owne and their peoples sinnes obdurate and prepared by Gods iudgment to be an example of his power and iustice most gladlie acknowledge yet their be so manie either flatterers of Princes that so say Deceatful persuasions of Politikes vnto Princes for their ruine or Heretiques that so thinke that the Ministers of Christs most deare Spouse of his verie bodie mystical his kingdome and house in earth whom at his departure hence he did endowe with most ample Commission and sent forth with that authoritie that his Father before gaue vnto him haue no power ouer Princes to denounce or declare them to be violators of Gods and the Churches lawes nor to punish them either spirituallie or temporallie not to excommunicate them nor to discharge the people of their othe and obedience towardes such as neither by Gods law nor mans a true Christian may obey Wherin it may please the gētle readers to enforme their consciēces partlie by that is said before and speciallie by that which foloweth Wher they shal finde that streight vpon the first conuersion of Kinges to the faith The examples of disobedient Princes to the Church and of their punishment or confusiō as the good and godlie haue euer obeyed the Church and submitted them selues to Ecclesiastical censures and discipline so the euil obstinate could neuer orderlie discharge them selues from the same without euident note of iniustice tirannie and irreligiositie and were either in fin brought to order and penance or els to confusion both temporal eternal Chrisost in vita Baby About xiij hundreth years agoe Babylas Bishop of Antioche excommunicated the onely Christian king or Emperour that then was as some count Numerius The exāple of Bishop Babylas as others Philip for executing a Prince that was put to him for an hostage Wherupon as euil kinges sometimes doe he martired his Bishop whom S. Chrisostome and others recken for the most famous Martyr of that time because he gaue both by his constancie and courage in God a notable example to al Bishops of their behauiour towardes their Princes and how they ought to vse th'Ecclesiastical rodde of correctiō towardes them what soeuer befal to their persons for the same After the said Prince had murthered his owne Pastor Nicep li. 5. cap. 25. then holie Pope Fabian for that he was the general shepard of Christendome or as some thinke Fabius the successor of Babylas pursued the said Emperour by like excommunication and other meanes til at length he brought him to order and repentance Afterward S. Ambros Bishop of Millan excommunicated th' elder Theodosius th'Emperour Soz. lib. 7. Cap. 24. Theo. lib. 5. Cap. 17 Amb. li. 5
as we read in the first of the Machabies of the Priestes infortunate fight against the heathen yet to make this a general rule as this Libeller doth that the Pope may no wayes vse the sword for defence of iustice or religion is most false and absurd The true vvay vvhich the Libeller should haue vsed for improuing the Popes actions in Ireland The true way of defence for English protestantes in this case touching the warres of Ireland and for impugnation of the Pope concerning his allowing or assisting the same should be in mine opinion not to affirme absolutelie as our fond most ignorant Libeller doth that the Pope may no way fight or take armes at al for that is against a knowen truth and not onely we but al Catholiques in the world wil therin stand against him but rather for condemnation of his Holines actiōs to proue that his cause was not iust her Maiesty not to stand rightelie excommunicate not any way to be an Heretique as Pius Quintus declared and consequentlie her subiectes in no case to remaine absolued from their othe and obedience of which pointes we may not at al dispute seing our defence is onlie general that the Pope may in some cases excōmunicate for some causes depriue and in many respectes fight and wage warre for Religion And it may be thought that the Protestants would neuer denie this but in regard of their owne particuler interest in some priuate case only For they wil not affirme neither doth it displease them as we thinke that Pius Quintus the last Pope was an Author of the late league and warres against the Turke The Popes vvarre against the Turke and had also his Captaines and banners displayed in that renouned battail against him by the same Against whos armes the Turke notwithstanding might as wel haue alleaged the Scriptures as now our Protestantes doe to make him put vp his sword For in truth if it be lauful for him to occupie his forces which God hath giuen him against the heathen that be no way vnder his iurisdiction much more may he employ them against thes whom he accompteth as Rebels to the Church which be properlie vnder his correction first in respect of their soules and then secondarilie of their tēporal goodes so farre as is requisite to their soules good Al which is most true euen in consideration of his Priestlie and Apostolical function onelie as is plane in Phinees whos priesthood was established vpon his zealous pursuing the enimies of God to death with his owne hand But further marking that the high Priestes of Godes people haue bene lightlie in al ages temporal Princes also and iudges of the world not onlie in spiritual but in worldlie affaires too ther can no doubt remaine but they may vse their forces temporal to the maintenance of iustice Gen. 14. Hebr. 7. Melchisedech the samplare of our new preisthood was both a Priest and a King and alwaies in the lawe of nature the eldest of the principal stockes were both Kinges and high Preistes In quaest Hebrai Priestes may make vvarres for iust occasiōs as S. Hierome witnesseth So is it plane that Noe Abraham Isaac Iacob and the like had the rule spiritual and temporal ouer their families and people And so likewise in the lawe Moyses was both the highe temporal officer and also a cheefe Preist Hely iudged not onelie in temporal but spiritual causes fortie yeares together Finallie the Machabees Iudas Ionathas Simeon and others were both godlie high Preistes wise iudges in politique and valiant captaines in martial affaires Euen so the cheefe Bishops of Christes Church our supreme Bastors in earth by Gods prouidence and by the grauntes of our first most christian Emperours and kinges and by the humble and zelous deuotion of the faithful Princes and people afterward haue their temporal states dominions and patrimonies wherby they most iustlie hould and possesse the same and are therby lauful Princes temporal and may most rightfullie by their soueraintie make warres in their owne or other mens iust quarel as occasion shal vrge them therunto The Popes temporal iurisdiction most lavvful and firme And whatsoeuer the enimies of Gods Church and Sea Apostolique doe barke or blaspheme against the Popes high preeminence in thes thinges as they doe no lesse in deed against al spiritual Soueraintie their is no King nor man in Christendome that hath better title to his state or so manie yeares of prescription for rightful possession or so long and sure protection frō God in such infinite mutabilitie of states and kingdomes or such great likelihood of cōstancy and continuance as hath the temporal state of the Sea Apostolique For as for the spiritual function and power therof it shal not faile til the day of iudgemēt though to vse S. Augustines wordes Heretiques neuer cease to bay and barke on euerie hand round about it Li. de vtil credendi And as thes humane succours of temporal thinges be often necessarie for the Churches peaceable regiment and the dooble honor due to the cheefe Pastors of our soules so the free gift of such thinges by deuout Princes and people is maruelouslie commended in the example of Barnabas and others who of deuotion sould their landes goodes and dedicated the price therof to Gods Church by the disposition of the Apostles humblie laying the same doune at their feete As on the other side the prophane persons that disdaine such honours and liuelihoodes of the Church and seeke to defraud her of the same may be warned by the terrible death of Ananias and Saphira which they suffred by S. Peters word for their like sacrilegious fact conceipt For if thes were thought worthie to be thus excommunicated seing it was an excommunication according to S. Augustines iudgemēt and withal were so extremlie punished corporallie Lib. 3. ca. 1. cont Parmeni for witholding vpon pretence perhaps of a litle better consideration of their necessitie to come a peece onely of that which they promised to God before in the Churches behalf and yet was not actuallie bestowed How much more doe they deserue excommunication and death or rather damnation perpetual that endeuour to spoile the Mother and Mistres of al Churches in the world of her prerogatiue and patrimonie and sacrilegiouslie to robbe her not of some part of their owne giftes but of al that by the deuotiō of others the first and most faithful Princes hath bene for the honour of Christ and his cheefe Apostle with great alacrity and good wil bestowed that way The which almes and patrimony dispensed by the godly prudence and charitie of the Apostolique Bishops redoundeth more to the auaile of Gods Church and the poore therof to Christes honour and to the benefite of al Christianitie be it spoken without comparison to the honour of God alone thē anie temporal Princes patrimony liuīg though many of their worldly habilities be farre greater thē any Popes are or
of conscience if for feare they obey or of their vndoing in the world if they refuse The taking of their deare children from them by force and placing them for their seduction with Heretiques which violence can not be done by the lawe of God to Iewes them selues the burning of our Priestes in the eares the whipping and cutting of the ears of others carying some in their sacred vestments through the streetes putting our chaste virgins into infamous places appointed for strumpets other vnspeakable vilanies ●ot inferiour to anie of the said heathnesse persecutions They haue pined and smothred in their filthie prisons aboue thirtie famous Prelates The sufferinges of Catholiques aboue fourtie excellent learned men of nobles gentlemen and ma●●ones a number whos Martirdome is before God as ●lorious as if they had by a speedie violent death ●ene dispatched euerie dongeon and filthie prison 〈◊〉 England ful of our Priestes brethen al Prouin●es and Princes christianed witnesses of our banish●ent In al this we yeeld them our bodies goods ●ountrie blood liues nothing wil quēch their ha●red of our Priesthood faith and profession Thus in 〈◊〉 causes we suffer and yet they would not haue vs ●omplaine they say al is sweet clement and merciful ●n this regiment But as we said we no otherwise ●omplaine of this persecution against vs but as it is exercised for that faith and quarel which the lawes of God and man approue and iustifie in vs That it is done by the sheepe and subiectes of Godes Church against their owne Prelates and pastors to whom in causes of religiō they ar bound to obey by th'expresse word of God When the lauful magistrate bearing sword by God for punishment of offenders putteth theeues heretiques or murderers to death who accompteth it crueltie who complaineth of persecution But when contrariwise by anie violent disorder the malefactors get head and take hart in a commen wealth and kil a lauful officer iudge or superior that is a cruel and horrible fact though it be done but in one or two persons in stead of a thousand wicked men executed by iust lawes So whē the Prince and Prelate proceed together against such as by the sentence and law of the Church of Christ ar adiudged to be heretiques and iniuries to God that is Iustice but when the temporal Prince or lay people rebel against their owne Bishops to whom in spiritual matters they ar bound by Godes word to giue eare vnder paine of damnatiō yea whē mere lay mē most of thē wholie vnlearned disorderlie take vpon thē to prescribe vnto their owne pastors what they should beleeue how they should minister the Sacramēts force vpon them false and impious othes and articles and that in Parliament wher the Bishops by the lawes of our countrie hauing the principal suffrages and the rest of the whole Conuocation representing the Church of England honorablie and vniformelie resisted whō thes mē afterward deposed of their honors toke their pulpits churches titles prerogatiues from them imprisoned their sacred persons and abused some of them True persecution namelie the noble Confessor and Bishop of London by al sortes of vilanie This loe is a persecutiō indeed wher the sheep subiects and inferiors violentlie oppose them selues against them whom the the Holie-ghost hath placed to be the guides gouernours and curates of their soules Yea when they depose disauthorize spoile punishe imprison their owne rulers Gods annointed Priestes giue warrant by wicked lawes to the temporal powers to visit correct iudge discerne of the doctrine of their Maisters in religion that is a persecution sedition and rebellion in the highest degree And we may trewlie say hereof to our lost Countrie with the Prophet Osee 4. Populus tuus sicut hi qui contradicunt Sacerdoti the state of the persecution being wholie agreable to the mutinie of Chore Dathā Abirō and their confederats in the desert against their lauful Priestes and Gouernors yea properlie against the high Priesthood of Aaron as our contries reuolt now is against the sea Apostolique and al lauful spiritual regiment proceeding from the same And therfore the Libeller guilfullie ī respect of the simple but fondlie and falslie in our eyes disproueth our lauful refusal to obey men before God and our resistance in matter of conscience by th' example of Chores conspiracie which toucheth al their rebellions frō the sea Apostolique Catholique Church and confirmeth al our endeuours for maintenance of the same against what aduersaries so euer And their rebellion is the more plaine The nevv cleargie and persecution more hateful and intollerable for that they haue not onely vnnaturallie done this violēce to their owne spiritual rulers but therupon also haue chosen at their pleasures and intruded into their places a sort of greedie wolues vnordered Apostats amarous and godlesse companions the very filth and chanel of the Realme who for hatred of the Catholique faith from which they ar Renegates and through a kind of competencie or emulatiō of the true Bishops whos roomes by secular force they vniustlie haue inuaded and doe deteine beare such vnquenshable malice to the true annointed cleargie to their obediēt folowers that they cease not to īcite the powers of the Realme against vs and exercise them selues vnder the pretensed title of their vsurped dignities and other temporal commissions the greatest tirannie and crueltie in the world standing in feare of their state so long as they see anie true Bishop or Catholique man aliue Who 's actiōs are the rather intollerable for that they know and hath beene prooued in open court that they not onelie vsurpe thos places against Gods and the Churches lawes but that they were not made and inuested according to the new lawes of the Realme speciallie made for creation of them So as our true pastors being vexed spoiled tormented and slaine against lawe nature and al reason by temporal men hauing no authoritie in causes ecclesiastical and by a new forged cleargie that exerciseth no Iurisdiction but by euident vsurpation against both the Canons of the Church and the lawes of our countrie who is of so dul a wit as not to see the difference of the discipline of the Church and Realme done towardes offendors in Catholique times and states by lauful authoritie both spiritual and temporal and the iniust persecution of the Church and her children now proceeding of nether lauful authoritie temporal nor spiritual VVhat clemencie vvas vsed to them of the old Clergie at the beginning Therfore let not the Libeller here so much extol the equitie and mercie vsed in her Maiesties regiment to certaine of the old principal cleargie because they put thē not to death as they haue done others sithēce Cicero wil not sticke to tel them what a benefit is done to an honest man when his purse is taken from him and yet his life saued and what thankes ar to be rendred in that case to the