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A01076	A defence of the right of kings Wherein the power of the papacie ouer princes, is refuted; and the Oath of Allegeance iustified. Written for the vse of all English romanists; more especially, for the information of those priests, or Iesuits, which are by proclamation commanded to conforme themselues, or depart the kingdome. By Edvvard Forset, Esquire.	Forset, Edward, 1553?-1630.	1624 (1624)	STC 11189; ESTC S119405	55,644	106

the heart of man at the Creation so was it also reduced and comprised by the Wisedome of God into the Tables of the Morall Law in the which for as much as we haue an expresse commandement of honor and obedience to gouernors that must remaine fixed in our hearts to hold vs firme in the Bond of allegiance Then let P. R. and all his conjoyned Catholikes as hee vaunteth make it plaine vnto vs that eyther Nature hath implanted or the Commandements of God haue enioyned therepressing or deposing of such Princes vppon any exceptions surmizes or accusations whatsoeuer As for the Law of Nations because that is but secundary and derivatiue from the other what hath beene averred of the one holdeth the same respect and certainty as doth the roote it selfe from whence it issueth yet before wee depart from this Argument of Natures working I haue to note that this cunning and curious Composer of Bookes and Contriuer of cases doth in this his chiefe proposition worke himselfe quite out of the question and putteth the Pope cleane out of the doores for the question being of the power of the Pope that is of the power authority and iurisdiction of a Forraine Commander and Iudge he telleth vs that God and Nature hath left some sufficient authority in euery Common-wealth c. which directly maketh the Popes preheminency with vs altogether needelesse and a very nullity sith by his owne sayings and that more agreeable to reason there is sufficient authority within the Land not requiring any his 〈◊〉 or vsurpations to the gouerning of that body which is of it selfe compleate and liueth by the vigor spirit and powerfull opperation of his owne soule his lawfull Soueraigne Thus is the Pope as touching the first reason drawne from the Law or Right of Nature or Nations either left out by him or cast out by me from repressing of Princes or 〈◊〉 himselfe within these our Countries or Territories The second reason bringeth a better Commission that will make way through all repugnances it is inforced in the name and authority of Christ himselfe and it is thus chayned together for impregnable strength Christ was to found is Common-wealth of Christians the farre more perfection then other states had before been establishe subjecting temporall things to spirituall and appointing a Supreame Vniuersall gouernour in the same with a generall charge to looke to all his sheepe without exception of great or small people or Potentates Therefore hee inferreth that the Supreame care iudgement direction and censure of the matter in question was left by Christ vnto the sayd Supreame 〈◊〉 or Pastor of his Church and Common-wealth But it was doubted whether this power was committed to the supreame Pastor directly and immediatly or indirectly and by consequence The Canonists out of the Commission vnto St. Peter Pose ones meas do hold the direct and immediate authority charge and ouersight in temporallities The Catholike Diuines vpon whom the brunt and pressure by 〈◊〉 must bee sayed haue thought it safer to chuse the indirect and consequentiall which they expresse in this manner When the gouernment of spirituall affaires is impugned by any temporall Gouernors so as the sayd spirituall Commission cannot be executed without redresse or remedy 〈◊〉 and in such cases the said Supreame Pastor is to haue authority to proceede against the temporall gouernors Also for the defence and preseruation of his spirituall charge but both parts fully are agreed that there is such authority left by Christ in his Church for remedy of vrgent causes otherwise he should not haue sufficiently prouided for the necessity thereof Here is goodly building of Castles in the ayre Castles did I say Nay of the Tower of Babell in the steede of the City of God Christ sayth hee was to found his Common-wealth of Christians in farre more perfection then other states c. why Christs intentions erections and perfections were all to saue sinners and to bring them vnto Heauen what proofe is this that hee was to found the Popish Hyerarchy or the Antichristian Monarchy and what is this farre more perfection c. Is it an outward pompe or power to chayne and fetter Princes vnder a temporall obedience of a Spirituall Vsurper What is this same subjecting of temporall things to spirituall is it to make a Minister or Bishop of Heauenly matters tyrannous and rampant ouer the temperall states setting their imperiall feete vppon the neckes of Lyons and Dragons what is the nature end and eminency of the spirituall Kingdome of Christ is it any other then the Preaching of the Gospell the way of salvation and the possessing of euerlasting life Then what straightnesse what extractions doth the Limbeckes of their braines bewitched with temporall vanities make of a worldly rule and Dominion He was to appoint one Supreame and 〈◊〉 Gouernor c. we on the other side constantly denying this their principle doe easily bring them to the end of their wits yet wee will pocket vp one confession in this place which hee is likely to forsake and not acknowledge another time In more perfection sayth hee then other states had before beene established acknowledging thereby that vnder the Law and in the old Testament the temporall was not subject to the spirituall Hath hee not well collected and conected his propositions to bring out this grand conclusion of superiority ouer Princes doth he not neede a distinction of proofe to make these parts that cleaue like sand to hold together against the breach which wee are to make vppon him His distinction of direct or indirect shal be directly anoyded and his great Mace which hee beareth vp in his March of state of Ordine ad Deum must bee directed and ordered to a better sence and his commission of pasce shall bee examined how farre it can authorize him to assume the pretented power If hee will but thanke me for it I will befriend him a little with my directions I will chalke him out his way with a straight line by the which hee must be brought and passe along if he desireth to come right vppon the conclusion I will distribute his journey into seuerall baytings or reposes otherwise called common places I doubt it will prooue a long labour and very troub esome to carry his commission along with him hee is like to venture himselfe in many straights and hazardable passages and will be often stayed by the Kings Watch but more often foundred by the rubs and roughnesse of the way which hee is to walke through He must begin and set forth at this poynt 1 That Christ purposing to found his Common-wealth of Christians in farre more perfection c. hath appoynted the same to be an absolute Monarchy vnder one supreame and vniversall Governour visible eminent and knowne as the head on earth in all causes of Christs kingdome 2 Next who that individuall person is whom Christ appointed to be such a Monarche and by what commission is he assigned thereunto and

A DEFENCE OF THE RIGHT OF KINGS WHEREIN THE POWER OF the Papacie ouer Princes is refuted and the Oath of Allegeance iustified WRITTEN FOR THE VSE OF ALL English Romanists more especially for the Information of those Priests or Iesuits which are by Proclamation commanded to conforme themselues or depart the Kingdome By EDWARD FORSIT Esquire LONDON Printed by B. A. for Nathaniel Butter and are to be sold at his shop at the Pyed Bull neere Saint Austens Gate 1624. TO THE MOST HIGH AND POTENT MONARCH IAMES OF GREAT BRITAINE FRANCE AND IRELAND KING DEFENDER OF THE FAITH c. TO THE RIGHT REVEREND FATHER in God GEORGE by the Diuine Prouidence Lord Bishop of LONDON my singular good Lord. THE whole Church and Kingdome of England Right Reuerend Prelate hath a long time together taken notice of that continuall neerenesse into which it hath pleased his Maiestie who does all things vpon Iudgement to admit your wisedome and faithfulnesse in matters of aduice especially which be most proper to your sacred Function Which Grace of your Lordships with so wise and learned a Prince hath perswaded me that as you were the fittest so you would be the willingest to doe our Great Master this seruice for so I hope this Office will proue if your Lordship wil be pleased that this Boke may by your hands haue accesse vnto his Maiestie It treats of a Royall Argument and therefore euen of dutie to be dedicated to a King as a thing due vnto Caesar And due vnto our King especially whom God hath raysed vp in Brittaine as the Fort Royall of Princes to amate that Tower of Babel that prowd Castle of S. Angelo And therefore as his Maiestie himselfe hath first of all and best of all written in this kind and giuen the ablest directions vnto others to prosecute the Argument so it might seeme presumption if any thing of this subiect should come abroad without his Royall assent His Maiesties example together with this Gentleman 's owne zeale to the Cause did at first no doubt encourage this learned Author to vndertake this present Worke who as he still is by his place a Iustice of Peace so hath he here done Iustice vpon that sawcie Medler with the Rights of Princes Parsons the Iesuit and those two seditious Bookes of his one comming our vnder the name of P. R. the other of a Catholike Gentleman both which he hath here made to keepe the Kings peace The Title will I hope find gracious acceptance and the Booke honourable approbation with his sacred Maiestie Which hope of mine hath emboldened me to offer it vnto your good Lordship as a testimonie of my most hearty and humble thankfulnesse for those fauors which I haue receiued from your goodnesse the remembrance of which shall euer bind me to be at your Lordships seruice most faithfully Nathaniell Butter TO THE READER OCTAVIVS the Emperour did rather chuse to violate the will of Virgil then to consume those laborious AEneids of his in the flames of Obliuion Why then should not this example of his excuse me from blame of the Author of this following Worke for attempting to commit to the Presse and commending that to others in publike which he but lent to me in priuate since good things are best knowne by their vse and well considering how acceptable it may prooue to our hopefull times The end of his 〈◊〉 when hee first began this Treatise I am well assured was onely to satisfie his owne priuate Iudgement esteeming it through his too much Modestie so farre vnfit for the publike view as for the space of tenne or twelue yeeres since the finishing of it hee suffered it to rest obscure amongst his other priuate Labours wherein his industrie and abilitie may appeare to be made yet more transparent in his owne vnder-valuing of what hee hath so exactly performed Which comming thus accidentally to my hands and viewing the matter it treated of and the malicious slanders it retreated I could not chuse but euen blame the vnkind Author that would haue made the very Wombe of this his seasonable Off-spring the Tombe and giuen it at one and the same time both life and dissolution together I haue therefore aduentured my Endeuors without his knowledge beyond his expectation and I am afraid against his desire for the publishing of that which I knew might prooue so vsefull which remaining obscure and in silence neither should the Cause nor the Parsons be vindicated nor yet the soueraigntie of this Antidote against that dispersed Poyson haue beene discernable or serued for publike benefit And though the man opposed be as I conceiue vncapable of defence yet there remaine many of his Labors that like the Vipers brood haue suckt a stronger Poyson from his death Nor want there many of his Iesuited Disciples who may yet doe him right if they thinke him iniuried though it be true Vni Caesari multi insunt Marii All I desire is pardon from the Author vpon whose Worth so well knowne and Loue so often tryed by me I haue thus farre presumed not doubting but the publike good that may ensue his owne Labour will ouer-sway his resolued retyrednesse As for thy acceptance I doubt it not because the benefit is thine owne and accounting it reward enough to my selfe that I am but the Instrument of communicating this to others Farewell F. B. PARTICVLAR MATTERS discussed in this Treatise THe occasion of this Question concerning the Popes power The mitigations of P. R. touching the Powder-treason His mangling and omitting of my Lords words Whether the Pope cannot erre with the manifold distinctions of the Papists therein How the true estate of the Question concerning the Popes power is hidden by a cunning forme of words Whether this point be generally agreed vpon amongst Catholikes and how dangerous the same is to the State How he minceth and mitigateth the matter in question The true Question and how largely it extendeth The reasons made for the position and the same answered and that there neither is nor euer was any standing Authoritie to depriue Kings No reason for the Popes power in nature Whether the vniuersall Pastorship be instituted by Christ and what points must be prooued before that come to be made good The Iesuites busie entermedling in State-affaires The proofe from the word Pasce Oues examined and Baronius his expositions and inferences in this matter Other strange arguments for the Popes temporall power The Pope no rightfull successor of S. Peter but wrongfully pretendeth his Authoritie or Primacie The Pope no successor or imitator of Christ. Their distinction of Authoritie direct and vndirect examined What necessitie there is of this Pastorall power and how it is qualified Politike reaches in Poperie to aduance the Authoritie aforesaid The Pope may reduce all causes to his Cognizance and how farre he may extend the power of Seculare Brachium the Sccular Arme. The Doctrine of the Iesuits concerning the deposing of Princes

Kingdomes or Dominions or to authorize any Forraigne Prince to invade or annoy him in his Countries or to discharge any of his Subjects from their allegiance and obedience to his Maiesty or to giue Licence or leaue to any of them to beare Armes rayse Tumults or to offer any violence or hurt to his Majesties Royall person state or government why doth not he in justification of the vnlawfulnesse of this oath by as playne full and broade termes tell vs that the Pope by the capacity of his omnipotency is indued with so plenary a power as that he may depose the King dispose his Kingdomes authorize Forraigne invasions discharge his Subjects from allegiance licence them to offer violence to his Royall Person state or gouernment And that for that regard the conscience of the Catholikes may not be obliged by any such prophane oath impyous against the Pope and the amplitude of his Pastorall primacy But doth hee in any-one line of his whole Volume let slippe any word expressely declaring naming or mentioning any power of this nature and that Lawfully may produce these effects to be invested or bestowed vpon his Holinesse I am perswaded that the igniculi of naturall duty the morsus of an acknowledging conscience and the pudor of his face which perhaps yet retayneth some remnants of modesty would not suffer him so far to degenerate from naturall notions so farre to be alienated from his dutious recognicion or so farre to passe all the bonds of shame as directly and roundly to deliuer vnto the World any sentence so monstruous and so full of horror and heynousnesse Neuerthelesse hee hath taken such a taste of the sower grape of Rome and is dipped so deepe into the venome and malice of that imperious and persecuting Church as that yet indirectly and by a subtile conueyance of his meaning hee giueth vs to vnderstand that his inward soule hath pronounced this doome and judgement against his annoynted Soueraigne and therefore that soule must not be entangled stayed or bound by any brideling or restrayning oath to the contrary But how doth his outward man manage these difficulties Iust in the same manner to an hayres breadth as Mr. Mittigator whom hee may call his ille ego doth that is closly dissemblingly timorously and treacherously In the place of the Pope hee vseth the entitleings of Supreame Pastor the deposing and killing of Princes hee compriseth and couereth vnder the words of proceeding against and restrayning of them what is done by inuasion insurrection or force of armes is included in the word temporalty the stirring vp and appoynting of other Potentates to partake in the quarrell is brought in very gently in this good shew of permitting other Princes c. Now fie vppon this blaunching and disguising Oratory If hee could passe away cleanly with these easie and fauouring phrases hee would steale out against vs as not suspecting his harmefull intentions his deadly writ of execution This one word of restrayning would like to a ball of wild-fire disclose it selfe and breake a sunder into censuring depriuing deposing destroying and murthering of Soueraignes and would haue no meane or end of oppression or Tyranny Next admitting him to this liberty as not to single out any speciall or particular clauses of the oath let vs examine how hee prooueth that there bee enwrapped within the sayd oath poynts of religion as well as of 〈◊〉 obedience he maketh reckoning to haue shewed it by foure seuerall distinct wayes I will beare him witnesse that the wayes be seuerall for onely one of them hath shewe of leading vs to the scope and conclusion fore-intended the rest are all straggling pathes quite from the purpose for are not these I pray you good arguments The Pope telleth the Catholikes that hee hath heard that they are compelled to go to the Churches and Assemblies of Heretickes and to be at their Sermons Ergo the oath of Allegiance contayneth matter of Religion as well of ciuill obedience Againe Bellarmine compareth the oath to the crafty composion and commixture of the Images of the Emperor Iulian and the Pomim gods all coupled and combined together in this Imperiall banner Ergo by an argument ab authoritate there be in that oath poynts Spirituall and Temporall conjoyned together Lastly the good Gentleman doth kindly make this reall offer for satisfaction of his Majesty that hee will sweare vnto him as much Loyalty as euer any Catholike Subject of England did vnto the lawfull Kings in former times before the change of King H. 8. Ergo there lurketh articles of sayth in the sayd oath vnder the pretence of ciuill duties The first of the foure seemeth to shute faire and and at the least to sticke in the Butt though farre enough from the marke and thus it speaketh from the plaine expresse words sence and drift of the oath it selfe That besides the acknowledgment of our Soueraigne to be true King and rightfull Lord ouer all his Dominions and that I will be a true loyall Subject vnto him and such other clauses whereat no man sticketh or maketh any difficulty the sayd oath contayneth further that I must sweare in like manner some poynts concerning the limitation of the Popes authority to wit what hee cannot doe towards his Majesty or his Successour in any case whatsoeuer Which question brought vnto the Thesis of all Kings toucheth sayth he a poynt of Doctrine and Catholike beliefe concerning the sufficiency of of Pastorall authority left by our Saviour in his Church vnto St. Peter and his Successours for redressing of all inconueniences that may fall out and this to forsweare hath perill of euerlasting Damnation There must be a monstrous strayne nay hee must breake through and steale before his Holinesse with his predominate power can get into the Creede 〈◊〉 haue before set in his way crosse barres and obstacles ●● nough which hee will neuer be able to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 impeach his assention into any such height as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 our consciences The article of Catholica Ecclesia 〈◊〉 be no cloake or conductor for him nor shall 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Canopy over his high estate of ● 〈◊〉 callity The Argument wherewith this Gent. doth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Pope to so eminent a place of power and reputation that his prerogative is past questioning and that vpon paine of 〈◊〉 is this every oath that conteyneth poynts concerning the limitation of the Popes Authority is an oath belonging to Religion but this oath expressing what the Pope cannot doe towards his Majestie or his successor in any case whatsoever is an oath concerning the limitation of the Popes authority therefore this oath is belonging to Religion If the Maior propofition be vntrue or vncertaine all the rest tottereth and falleth as without foundation I will examine the same by the pondering of the particuler words thereof First belonging to Religion in a generall sence may comprehend all the actions and resolues of men yea ciuill duties also are within the spaciousnes thereof because a true