Selected quad for the lemma: nature_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
nature_n	person_n	son_n	word_n	7,200	5	4.7404	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A47735	Mr. Leslie's answer to the remarks on his first dialogue against the Socinians	Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722.	1697 (1697)	Wing L1120A; ESTC R216662	7,803	8

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