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A48860 A further defence of the report Vindicating it from Mr. Alsops Cavils, and shewing the difference between Mr. W's and my self to be real, and the charge in my appeal to be true. Lobb, Stephen, d. 1699. 1698 (1698) Wing L2724; ESTC R218961 51,757 90

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Mr. A. doth insi●●nate That Jesus Christ hath wrought for himself Righteousness that he might by it be entitled to Eternal Life I will consider the Import and Tendency of such an Assertion 1. As for its Import it cannot be any thing less than that the Lord Jesus Christ was once in a state of Tryal and made under the same Law for himself that we were for our selves and that Obedience was required of him to the end that he merit Eterna● Life for himself Whence it follows That when the Promise of Eternal Life was proposed for the Encouragement of his Obedience he had no Right nor Title to Eternal Life no not for himself But that to get a Title thereunto he was under the Obligation of the same Law that we were and to speak most modestly of Mr. A's Notion The Lord Jesus Christ God-Man was antecedently to his rendring Obedience to the Law which said Do this and live He was as destitute of a Right to Eternal Life as Adam was on his first Creation Thus whilst he would fasten on the Reporter the groundless Charge of making Christ destitute of 〈◊〉 Righteousness he makes our Blessed Lord destitute of Eternal Life ay of a Right thereunto But le● us consider 2. The Tendency of this Notion and that I may do it with the greater clearness I will deliver what I design to offer on this occasion as pressed by the Learned Judicious and Holy Doctor Owen who in his Day excelled most Men in these Studies And whoever will consult his Discourse of Justification from page 366 to page 378. will see That this great Man in confuting the Socinians and their next of Kin in the Doctrine of Christ's Satisfaction and our Justification doth with much concern declare and strongly prove That Christ came not under the Law for himself but for us To set this Important Point in the clearer Light it must be observed That the Controversie is not whether the Humane Nature of Christ as it is a Ra●ional Creature be subject unto the Law of Crea●ion and eternally obliged from the Nature of God ●●d its Relation thereunto to Love him Obey him ●epend upon him and to make him its End Blessed-●●ss and Reward For as the Dr. admirably wel ●●presseth it ' The Law of Creation thus considered doth not respect the World and this Life only but the Future State of Heaven and Eternity But the Point here controverted is Whe●●er Christ be under the Law as it is imposed on ●reatures by especial Dispensation for some time ●●d for some certain End with some Considerations ●●les and Orders that belong not essentially to the ●●w as before described as it is presented unto us ●●●t absolutely and eternally but whilst we are in this World and that with this special End that by Obe●●●nce thereunto we may obtain the Reward of ●ternal Life To this the Dr. answers That the Lord Jesus Christ was not made under the Law under this ●●nsideration for himself to the end he might get a ●ale unto Eternal Life For saith the Doctor upon the first Instant of the Vnion of his Natures being holy harmless undefiled and separate from Sinners he might notwithstanding that Law he was made subject unto have been stated in Glory For he that was the Object of all Divine Worship ceded not any New Obedience to procure for him state of Blessedness And a little before Setting side saith the Doctor the consideration of the Grace and Love of Christ and the Compact be●ween the Father and the Son as to the Undertaking ●or us which undeniably proves all that he did in pursuit of them to be done for us and not for ●imself I say setting aside the consideration of these things and the Humane Nature of Christ b● vertue of its Vnion with the Person of the Son 〈◊〉 God had a Right unto and might have immed●ately been admitted into the Highest Glo●● whereof it was capable without any Anteceder Obedience unto the Law And this is appare●● from hence in that from the First Instant of th●Vnion the whole Person of Christ with our Natu●● Existing therein was the Object of all Divi●● Worship from Angels and Men wherein consis● the Highest Exaltation of that Nature So f●● Dr. Owen Here then you see a difference between this Lea●ned Dr. and Mr. A. Mr. A. suggests as if Chri●● were under the Law which saith Do this and liv● for Himself as well as for us that he might be e●● titled to Eternal Life but the Dr. denies it up●● the weightiest consideration Besides the Doct●● is the more positive in his Opinion as it doth mo●● effectually subvert the Notion of Socinus which 〈◊〉 That our Lord Jesus Christ was for himself or on 〈◊〉 own account obliged unto all that Obedience which 〈◊〉 performed and therefore could no more obey a●● satisfie for others than any other person But th● Doctor proves That Christ's Obedience unto t●● Law was for Vs and not for Himself and ther● by doth most effectually enervate the strength 〈◊〉 Socinus his Argument which upon Mr. A's Notio● receives new Life and Vigour Whoever desires a suller understanding of th● Controversie will do well to consult the Doct●● himself who in the pages referred unto hath 〈◊〉 fully and clearly stated this Doctrine as to obvia●● Objections made against it by the Remonstrant Socinians and others but what I have here said 〈◊〉 sufficient to shew Mr. A's Mistake and what countenance it gives the Socinians and how much reason 〈◊〉 hath to be more in his Study consulting not ●ay-Books for the sake of foolish Jests but the ●oly Scriptures and the Learned Writings of D. O. ●●d other Orthodox Divines that for the future ●rough inadvertency or otherwise he give not those ●dvantages to the common Enemies of our Holy ●eligion he hath too oft done But I pass on to third Objection The Third Objection We are sin saith the Reporter and under a Curse Can you with all your Penetration Divine the ●eason why it 's said we are sin but how ●●e we sin why must it be phrased thus we are 〈◊〉 It was Poetically and Satyrically said That ●lexander the sixth was non tam vitiosus ●●àm vitium non tam scelestus quàm scelus but ●●e need to be taught how Man was sin sin it ●●lf Reply 1. That Mr. Alsop is so very much at a loss to ●●d out the genuine meaning of the word Sin ●en it 's said we are Sin as if it had been never ●used in Scripture doth not a little surprize it ●●ng so common for the Holy-Ghost to express the ●●erlative Degree by the Abstract not only in ●●er Instances but even in this that doth so puz●● and confound him For as the Devils whose ●●s are exceeding great are called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or spiritual wickedness so wicked Men are cal●● Wickedness particularly in 1 Cor. 6.9 10 11. ●ere is an enumeration of sundry sorts of Sinners 〈◊〉 render it And