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A16915	Three questions ansvvered I. Question. What should our meaning be, when after the reading of the fourth Commandement, we pray; Lord incline our hearts to keepe this law? II. Question. How shall the fourth Commandement, being deliuered in such forme of words, binde vs to sanctifie any day, but onely the seauenth, the day wherein God rested, & which the Iewes sanctified? III. Question. How shall it appeare to be the law of nature to sanctifie one day in every weeke?	Broad, Thomas, 1577 or 8-1635.	1622 (1622)	STC 3806; ESTC S106710	26,614	43

THREE QVESTIONS ANSVVERED I. QVESTION What should our meaning be when after the reading of the fourth Commandement we pray Lord incline our hearts to keepe this law II. QVESTION How shall the fourth Commandement being deliuered in such forme of words binde vs to sanctifie any day but onely the seauenth the day wherein God rested which the Iewes sanctified III. QVESTION How shall it appeare to be the Law of Nature to sanctifie one day in every weeke ACT. 20.20.26.27 I am pure from the blood of all men for I haue kept backe nothing that was profitable vnto you but haue declared vnto you all the counsell of God SAPIET FELICI AC OX AT OXFORD Printed by IOHN LICHFIELD and IAMES SHORT Printers to the famous Vniversitie 1621. To the Reader THERE is sarce any point of doctrine more controverted then the doctrine of the Sabbath Two points of difference amongst vs are when the day beginneth what worke may be done therein as Dr Bound telleth vs indeed not only we Protestants among our selues but the Papists also among their selues differ in opinion hereabout Againe there is in England iudging one another there is doing things doubtingly and there is doing things with offence which were they tolerable in the Church of Christ Rom. 14. St Paul would not haue spent a whole chapter about these matters Moreover whereas the Papists praying in latin doe pray without vnderstanding many amongst vs doe pray with a sinfull vnderstanding for as in words so in meaning they desire God to incline their hearts to keepe the 7th day for Sabbath and to doe no worke therein Farthermore It was printed last 1618. some in their booke often printed to say nothing of other haue these and the like passages The 4th commandement is no more Ceremoniall then all the rest the observation of the 7th day is a morall and perpetuall duty we may not pick vp a few sticks on the Sabbath there is asmuch difference betweene the Sabbath and other dayes as betweene Sacramentall bread and common bread c. The knowledg and consideration hereof among other things causeth mee greatly to desire that the doctrine of the Sabbath may once at length be throughly discussed by men of sound iudgment and doubtles what the Scriptures sentence is in this matter would soone be knowne were it as Dr Cranmer sometime advised well handled by the learned men of our Vniversityes Act. and Monum no man amongst vs should need any longer to halt betweene two opinions as the more to be lamented many of long time haue done and still doe yea and vnlesse the better order be taken no doubt will doe even vnto the end of the world Now to provoke herevnto I haue written this little booke and partly also as hoping it will conduce somthing to the finding out of the trueth when the time commeth that it shal be more carefully sought after which time God hasten for his sake which is the trueth Iesus Christ vnto the illumination of whose Spirit I commend thee gentle Reader and so rest Thine in him as long as life lasteth TH. BROAD I. QVESTION AS when the 8. commandement is read and we pray Lord incline our hearts to keepe this law it is all one as if we said Lord incline our hearts not to steale So when the 4. commandement is read and we pray Lord incline our hearts to keepe this Law it is all one as if we had said Lord incline our hearts to sanctifie the Sabbath to keepe the 7. day for Sabbath and to doe no worke therein for this is that law The Iewes had asked this in words and meaning both suppose they had had the like māner of praying after this commandement and we must needs aske the same in words as they should haue done The question then is Whether should we aske the same in meaning as we doe in words or what should our meaning be Answere of some in these daies By the doctrine of some in these daies as in words so in meaning we should desire God to incline our hearts to keepe the 7. day for Sabbath and to doe no worke therein They teach that the observation of the 7. day is a morall and perpetuall duty that we may not so much as picke vp sticks in the same and in a word that the 4. commandement is no more Ceremoniall then all the rest Now whereas there is one text principally against them Col. 2.16 17. namely this Let no man therefore iudge you in meate or in drinke or in respect of an holy day or of the New-moone or of the Sabbaths Which are a shaddow of things to come c by Sabbaths here they will not haue the weekely Sabbaths meant But what haue they to say It is Sabbaths in the plurall number and doth not the word Sabbaths in the plurall number import the weekely Sabbaths See Mat. 28.1 Act. 13 14. and 16 13 with many other places This in my knowledge is all they haue to say which is so little that it only argueth a will to say something it is not so much as a shadow of sound proofe Consider 1 that St Paul here vseth another word which doth most properly signifie the Festivall daies 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and therefore it is very vnlikely that by Sabbaths the same daies should be meant as they would haue it this had beene a needlesse repetition 2 Vnlesse by Sabbaths here are meant the weekely Sabbaths Christian people chose the first day and made it their Sabbath sayth the booke of Homilies By the doctrine then of our Church the observation of the Lords day is an Eccles ordinance and not an Apostol precept Sozom lib 5. cap. 8. what warrant haue we in the Scripture to worke vpon the Iewes Sabbath Will they say that the Apostles command to sanctifie the Lords day in memory of Christs resurrection Be this granted which cannot be proved and is something discrepant from the doctrine of our Church doth it therefore follow that we neede not keepe the 7. day in memory of the worlds creation Constantine commanded that the 6 day should be kept in memory of Christs death on the Crosse yet was the day of Christs resurrection kept also Sozomenus saith that at Constātinople almost in all other places lib. 7. cap. 19. Sabbato postridie Sabbati conveniunt and in the Scripture wee read of meetings on both daies It is then a weake argument The Apostles commanded to keepe the first day in memory of Christs resurrection therfore wee neede not keepe the 7 day in memory of the worlds creation This I would haue thee well to consider that St Paul of the Apostles is Christs only Doctour about dayes he alone by way of doctrine handleth this point and he handleth it purposly in three severall Epistles here to the Romanes among whom he had never beene Col. 2. Rom. 14. Gal. 4. The controversy about the Sabbath would soone

And shall I demaunde of them when the 7 day Sabbath became a shadow and which was the first Sabbath that was such I doubt not wee should all enter into the heavenly Sabbath before they would agree vpon an answer to this question Obserue that the Apostle Hebr 4 4 I say if not in time for in likelihood God did not sanct the 7 day before the first 7 day was ended Note these words Gen. 2.3 because in it he had rested not would rest speaketh of the 7 day as rested vpon by God and not as sanctified by him or inioyned to be sanctified of man so that the 7 day then became a type when God rested therein The 7 day in order if not in time before it was sanctified was Gods Rest and consequently a shaddow of the rest remaining to the people of God But this by way of disgression to returne Inough hath beene said to make it appeare that the 4 commandement is more Ceremonial then th● 〈◊〉 and therefore not as the other to be observed ●●●●ding to the letter only I will add for a conclusion ●●●t saying of Augustine Quisquis illum diem Sabbatu● observat sicut litera sonat carnaliter sapit that is Spig lit cap. 14. Whosoeuer observeth the Sabbath as the letter soundeth savoureth of the flesh Now they which keepe the 7 day doe no worke therein keepe the sabbath as the letter of the precept soundeth Their Handwriting then should haue beene blotted out and not put in print who teach that the observation of the 7 day is a morall and perpetuall duty and that we may not so much as pick vp sticks in the same Answere agreeable to the Doctrine of our Church When the 8 commandement is read and wee pray So for the rest of the comman Lord incline our hearts to keepe this Law our words and meaning must agree as in words so in meaning wee desire grace not to steale but here not so Though in words we desire God to incline our hearts to keepe the 7 day for Sabbath and to doe no worke therein yet not in meaning It is said in the booke of Homylies that whatsoever is found in the 4 commandement appertaining to the law of nature The 4 comman bound the Israelites to do that which they were not bound to doe by the law of nature but not vs Christians This is the cōmon doctrine ought to be observed of all good Christians our meaning then after the doctrine of our Church should be thus Lord incline our hearts to keepe this law so far forth as it is the Law of nature Or thus Lord incline our hearts to keepe so much of this Law as appertaineth to the law of nature which is the same in effect Thus haue I answered a very needfull question in my opinion what other will iudge of this matter I know ●●●●t for mine owne part I iudge it so needfull to be knowne Our Church hath taken order for the nstruction of the ignorant in this matter I meane by the booke of Homilyes but in these dayes sew parishes haue that booke in fewer it is read and where ttis read scarce one in an hundred I feare learneth a right meaning by it that with St Paul I would gladly spend be spent to bring my ignorant brethren to a right meaning here●●●s it not a lamentable case when a man prayeth Lord in ●●●e mine heart to keepe the 7 day for Sabbath and to doe no worke therein to meane according to his word which is to obserue a shadow and this a kind of deniall that Christ is come The Papists pray without vnderstanding but such pray with a sinfull vnderstanding And if by some triall I may make coniecture thus doe the greatest part of this kingdome neyther is it any mervaile if very many so doe when they are so taught by some in these dayes Againe I finde by experience that they wil hardly be brought to a right meaning here it seemeth to them so strange that in the Publike Service one thing should be spoken and another meāt as that they should heare the 7 day is the Sabbath when not the 7 day but the first day must be kept by them And when to make them take more heed I tell them that to keepe the 7 day for Sabbath and to doe no worke therein as the words of the cōmandement are is to savour of the flesh which is death in the iudgment of St Augustine and other learned Divines Sapere secundum carnem mors est Spir. lit cap. 14. this maketh them even to stand amazed at the strangnes of the matter Moreover as it is hard to bring them to so no doubt will it be to keepe them in a right meaning these words the 7 day is the Sabbath and in it thou shalt doe no worke still sounding in their eares Which I write to this end that my brethren may be more carefull often to ingeminate vnto their Parishioners the doctrine of our Church delivered in the booke of Homilyes Truely if ever it had here need be as the Prophet Esaie speaketh precept vpon precept precept vpon precept line vpon line line vpon line here a little Esai 28.10 and there a little or rather indeed here a great deale and there a great deale and yet I feare mee all to little as would be found vpon triall afterward II. QVESTION IN the iudgment of St Augustine we Christians are bound by the 4 commandement to keepe a figuratiue or spirituall Sabbath Epist 99. ad Ianuar. Inter omnia illa decem precepta c. Among all those ten precepts that alone which is there placed of the Sabbath Tertul adver iud is commanded figuratiuely to be observed Thus Tertullian termeth Christ whom as the beloved Sonne wee must heare Mat. 17. Hebr. 1. Sabbati spiritualis cultorem and Chrysostome saying that Legis iustitia prima salutaris decem habet mandata setteth downe this for the 4 Cole Sabbatum spirituale Cited by Mus loc commun keepe a spirituall Sabbath There is according to Augustine and other as I obserue in my little reading a twofold keeping of those commandements touching the Sabbath circumcision There are two sorts of Sabbath after Augustine and other the one literall carnall or temporall the other figuratiue spirituall and eternall sacrifices and the like the one literall or carnall the other figuratiue or spirituall Now the Israelites were bound to keepe these in a literall manner that is to doe no worke on the 7 day to circumcise on the 8 day to offer lambs and such like in sacrifice to the Lord We Christians are bound to keepe these in a figuratiue or spirituall manner that is to rest from the works of our corrupt nature all the dayes of the worke to circumcise the foreskins of our hearts and to offer spirituall sacrafices of praise thanksgiuing These two kinds of binding figuratiue and

should God permit a man to doe against nature as it was in his perfection Whensoeuer a law of nature is broken Gods image after which wee were created is defaced in some measure and God cannot permit that his Image in vs should be defaced Now of this iudgement among other great Divines M. Calvin was I make no questiō thou maist perceaue by his manner of writing that as he would not haue it morall so neyther would he haue it the absolute Law of Nature to sanctifie one day in every week Thus he writeth Institut lib 2. in 4 praecept Ita evanescunt nugae Pseudoprophetatum qui Iudaica opinione populum superioribus seculis imbuerunt nihil aliud afferentes nisi abrogatum esse quod cerimoniale erat in hoc mandato id vocant sua lingua diei septimae taxationem remanere autem quod morale est nempe vnius diei observationem in hebdomade .a. Calvin will not haue it morall to sanctifie one day of every weeke which yet is the common doctrine in these dayes Atqui id nihil aliud est quam in Iudaeorum contumeliam diem mutare diei sanctitatem animo eandem retinere .b. Againe he will not haue the Lords day holy as the Sabbath was that is Sacramentally holy but in these dayes some haue published that there is asmuch difference betweene the Lords day and other dayes of the weeke as betweene Sacramentall bread and common bread siquidem manet nobis etiamnum par mysterij in diebus significatio quae apud Iudaeos locum habebat Et sanè videmus quid tali doctrina profecerint qui enim eorum constitutionibus haerent crassa carnalique Sabbathismi superstitione Iudaeos ter superant Chrysostome in a Sermon against obseruers of Newmoones 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. A DIALOGVE BETVVEENE A IEVV and a CHRISTIAN of the common Opinion Christian I Keepe the Sabbath otherwise called by the name of Lords day 1. Part. Here is shewed the difference betweene Iewes and Christians about keeping the Sabbath Iew. I keepe the Sabbath as for your otherwise called I finde it not in our Scriptures will you christen the Sabbath with this new name think you thereby to make it more and lesse Jewish Chr. I keepe the Sabbath in obedience to the fourth commandement in the Decalogue Iew. And I keep the Sabbath in obedience to the same Commandement Chr. I keepe not the Sabbath as a shadow of things to come Iew. Neither doe I so keep it Moses and the Prophets teach vs no such thing at leastwise in our vnderstanding as you may perceaue by those many thousands of our nation Act. 21. who beleeuing in Christ yet were zealous of the Law which they would not haue beene had they knowne that the Sabbath New moone c. were shadowes of things to come and the body was of Christ as since your Apostle Paul makes you beleeue Chr. I keep the Sabbath on the first day Iew. I keepe the Sabbath on the seauenth day and in so doing I fulfill the fourth commandement as well as you by your owne doctrine and better in my vnderstanding Chr. I forbeare all weeke-daie work spend the Sabbath in the seruice of God both in publike and in priuate Iew. And I doe likewise Chr. I dresse my dinner and doe such like workes on the Sabbath Iew. I dare doe no worke for so hath God charged Exo. 20. I finde Gen. 2. that he himselfe did none heretofore he rested frō all his worke on the seauenth day You Christians indeed are bold to doe some worke but take heed for we know that a mā for gathering sticks not cutting down wood was stoned to death Chr. We are as certaine that we may doe such workes as wee are sure Christ came into the world and was crucified by you You were often angry with him for his doings on the Sabbath iudged him not of God Ioh 9. because he kept not the Sabbath when opportunity serued you nailed him to the crosse thinking happily that he being taken out of the way the Sabbath should be better kept in this respect But whē you nailed him to the Crosse Col. 2. he nailed the handwriting of ordinances to the Crosse also and tooke it out of the way since which time the Sabbath is not to be kept as before You will one day repent your crucifying of Christ for you did not only shed innocent blood but also made the obseruation of many things in your law sinne vnto you You bid vs take heed about our keeping the Sabbath but looke to your selues you were best Iew. Wherefore Part. 2. It is said that the Iewes Sabbath was Ceremoniall in regard it was the seauenth day and here thou hast some light what to iudge of this doctrine Chr. You keepe the Sabbath on the seauenth day Iew. Is it not said in the fourth commandement the seauenth day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God Shall God haue two Sabbaths in one weeke For the seuenth day must needs be still his Sabbath the day wherein he rested And suppose that the fourth Commandement as you teach bindeth to sanctifie one day in the weeke doth it not binde to sanctifie the seauenth day as much as any other Can you blame vs herein even by your owne doctrine Chr. Wee cannot blame you absolutely for keeping the seauenth day but you keepe it in obedience to the ceremoniall part of the 4th commandement Iew. I doe not well vnderstand this I pray explaine it Chr. J will the best I can but I had rather you should goe to some other who can doe it better The fourth Commandement is partly morall partly Ceremoniall or shadowish the morall part bindeth to sanctifie one day of the weeke the Ceremoniall or shadowish part bindeth to sanctifie the seauenth day only Now to sanctifie the seauenth day in obedience to the morall part is tolerable but you keepe it in obedience to the shadowish part for you take your selues bound to sanctifie the seauenth day alone and so you keeping the seauenth day obserue a shadow whereas did we keep the same day we should not for we would keepe it in obedience to the morall part and then wee might sanctifie the seauenth day as well as any other vnlesse happily for some other considerations Iew. This doctrine is strange to me you speake much of Shadow and shadowish take heed this doctrine bee not rather shadowish then substantiall Had your Apostles taught such doctrine in the Synagogues I beleeue our Rabbins would haue smiled at it neither would so many of our Nation haue followed them To keep the Sabbath on the seauenth day as not bound by the 4th Commandement to keepe it on that only day is tolerable but to keepe the Sabbath on the seauenth day as bound by the fourth Commandement to keepe it on that only day is to obserue a shadow This is very nice doctrine Well haue you any thing