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A89732 A discussion of that great point in divinity, the sufferings of Christ; and the question about his righteousnesse active, passive : and the imputation thereof. Being an answer to a dialogue intituled The meritorious price of redemption, justification, &c. / By John Norton teacher of the church at Ipswich in New-England. Who was appointed to draw up this answer by the generall court. Norton, John, 1606-1663. 1653 (1653) Wing N1312; Thomason E1441_1; ESTC R210326 182,582 293

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be_v in_o christ_n reconcile_n the_o world_n unto_o himself_o not_o impute_v their_o trespass_n unto_o they_o 2_o cor._n 5.19_o and_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n may_v as_o well_o bear_v a_o interpretation_n agreeable_a hereunto_o as_o any_o other_o thus_o god_n be_v in_o christ_n reconcile_n the_o world_n unto_o himself_o how_o by_o not_o impute_v their_o trespass_n unto_o they_o so_o as_o the_o not-imputation_n of_o sin_n may_v seem_v to_o be_v a_o antecedent_n and_o mean_n rather_o than_o a_o part_n of_o atonement_n or_o reconciliation_n dialogu_n therefore_o his_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n be_v not_o only_o a_o bare_a acquittance_n of_o the_o fault_n but_o it_o do_v comprehend_v under_o it_o his_o receive_n of_o sinner_n into_o favour_n and_o i_o do_v also_o grant_v that_o his_o receive_n of_o sinner_n into_o favour_n must_v be_v distinguish_v as_o another_o part_n of_o god_n atonement_n answ_n here_o you_o do_v not_o obscure_o what_o before_o you_o do_v in_o effect_n express_o 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it_o our_o redemption_n from_o sin_n as_o well_o as_o our_o justification_n and_o adoption_n i_o will_v have_v you_o take_v notice_n that_o i_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o god_n atonement_n do_v contain_v under_o it_o redemption_n as_o another_o distinct_a point_n differ_v from_o justification_n but_o i_o make_v our_o redemption_n and_o freedom_n from_o sin_n by_o the_o father_n atonement_n to_o be_v all_o one_o with_o our_o justification_n from_o sin_n answ_n redemption_n be_v take_v active_o luk._n 2.38_o for_o the_o purchase_n of_o grace_n and_o glory_n for_o the_o elect_a by_o lay_v down_o of_o a_o price_n so_o redemption_n be_v the_o meritorious_a cause_n and_o atonement_n be_v a_o effect_n or_o passive_o for_o the_o good_a of_o redemption_n apply_v rom._n 8.23_o so_o redemption_n be_v the_o whole_a and_o atonement_n be_v the_o part_n but_o atonement_n whether_o it_o be_v take_v for_o reconciliation_n or_o for_o freedom_n from_o sin_n can_v in_o neither_o sense_n be_v the_o same_o 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the_o mediator_n must_v be_v consider_v as_o the_o only_a meritorious_a procure_a cause_n of_o the_o father_n atonement_n rom._n 5.10_o 3._o the_o holy_a ghost_n must_v be_v consider_v as_o the_o principal_a instrumental_a cause_n of_o the_o father_n atonement_n by_o work_v in_o sinner_n the_o grace_n of_o faith_n by_o which_o sinner_n be_v enable_v to_o apprehend_v and_o receive_v the_o father_n atonement_n or_o thus_o the_o father_n must_v be_v consider_v as_o the_o efficient_a cause_n the_o son_n as_o the_o mediatoriall_a procure_a cause_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o the_o principal_a instrumental_a cause_n of_o all_o blessing_n that_o poor_a believe_a sinner_n do_v enjoy_v eph._n 1.3_o answ_n the_o will_n of_o god_n which_o be_v a_o immanent_a act_n be_v the_o efficient_a cause_n but_o a_o create_v effectual_a transient_a motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o formal_a cause_n of_o the_o work_a a_o sinner_n atonement_n by_o that_o god_n from_o eternity_n will_v the_o infallible_a 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see_v herein_o the_o dialogue_n usual_a fallacy_n of_o put_v that_o which_o be_v not_o a_o cause_n for_o a_o cause_n since_o not_o only_o the_o eminency_n of_o the_o person_n but_o also_o the_o kind_n of_o obedience_n and_o acceptation_n of_o god_n be_v require_v as_o essential_a to_o mediatorly_a obedience_n but_o the_o dialogue_n conclusion_n express_v itself_o in_o ambiguous_a term_n capable_a both_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o orthodox_n and_o heterodox_n do_v by_o this_o unseasonable_a and_o irregular_a equivocation_n betray_v the_o weakness_n of_o its_o cause_n and_o argument_n both_o at_o once_o dialogu_n it_o be_v the_o holiness_n of_o his_o divine_a nature_n that_o give_v the_o quicken_a power_n to_o the_o oblation_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n joh._n 6.63_o answ_n it_o be_v true_a the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o humane_a nature_n can_v not_o have_v profit_v any_o thing_n but_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o person_n whereunto_o it_o be_v unite_v which_o notwithstanding_o the_o 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though_o neither_o the_o flesh_n nor_o the_o action_n of_o his_o flesh_n consider_v alone_o can_v profit_v we_o it_o do_v not_o thereupon_o follow_v that_o his_o legal_a obedience_n can_v profit_v we_o the_o consequent_a be_v as_o false_a as_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a for_o the_o legal_a obedience_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o only_o humane_a obedience_n as_o the_o dialogue_n speak_v but_o the_o obedience_n of_o god-man_n of_o the_o error_n of_o this_o distinction_n of_o legal_a and_o mediatorial_n obedience_n have_v be_v speak_v before_o the_o efficacy_n of_o it_o lay_v in_o the_o eminency_n of_o the_o person_n offer_v that_o be_v the_o person_n who_o offer_v up_o himself_o be_v such_o a_o man_n who_o be_v also_o god_n joh._n 6.63_o act._n 20.28_o heb._n 9.14_o but_o not_o in_o that_o only_a this_o be_v but_o the_o same_o in_o more_o word_n which_o be_v usual_o express_v in_o few_o viz._n the_o value_n and_o efficacy_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n depend_v yet_o not_o whole_o upon_o 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own_o blood_n actuate_v his_o own_o death_n but_o the_o jew_n and_o roman_n put_v he_o not_o to_o death_n suppose_v it_o be_v true_a that_o man_n do_v not_o instrumental_o inflict_v upon_o christ_n a_o natural_a death_n and_o that_o they_o kill_v he_o not_o which_o yet_o be_v against_o the_o express_a letter_n of_o the_o scripture_n act._n 2.23_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v god_n do_v not_o inflict_v upon_o he_o a_o spiritual_a death_n as_o they_o kill_v their_o own_o prophet_n so_o they_o kill_v christ_n 1_o thes_n 2.15_o but_o they_o kill_v their_o own_o prophet_n not_o only_o in_o appearance_n but_o effectual_o neither_o christ_n be_v active_a as_o concern_v his_o death_n sc_n as_o voluntary_o permit_v or_o give_v way_n and_o consent_n unto_o it_o neither_o the_o inability_n of_o man_n to_o take_v away_o his_o life_n till_o himself_o please_v neither_o his_o not_o die_v either_o soon_o or_o late_a than_o the_o very_a punctual_a hour_n in_o which_o god_n have_v appoint_v 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say_v and_o also_o answer_v a_o little_a before_o do_v christ_n suffer_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n in_o the_o proper_a place_n of_o hell_n see_v none_o can_v suffer_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n as_o long_o as_o they_o live_v in_o this_o world_n none_o can_v suffer_v the_o second_o death_n till_o after_o this_o life_n be_v end_v answ_n the_o place_n of_o punishment_n be_v not_o of_o the_o essence_n of_o punishment_n as_o the_o place_n of_o the_o three_o heaven_n be_v not_o of_o the_o essence_n of_o blessedness_n so_o neither_o be_v the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a of_o the_o essence_n of_o misery_n as_o the_o manhood_n of_o christ_n be_v partaker_n of_o the_o joy_n of_o heaven_n out_o of_o the_o place_n of_o heaven_n if_o not_o at_o other_o time_n as_o luk_n 9.28_o yet_o after_o the_o resurrection_n so_o may_v it_o suffer_v the_o pain_n of_o hell_n out_o of_o the_o place_n of_o hell_n the_o prison_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o essential_a debt_n the_o most_o popish_a enemy_n of_o 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though_o not_o inflict_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n 10._o august_n de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la l._n 21._o c._n 10._o all_o the_o flame_n of_o hell_n be_v not_o corporeal_a and_o material_a witness_v that_o fire_n wherein_o the_o rich_a man_n be_v torment_v such_o as_o his_o eye_n and_o tongue_n be_v such_o be_v the_o flame_n luk._n 16.23_o 24._o 4._o willet_n sin_v 20._o gen_fw-la count_v qu._n 3_o par_fw-fr 4._o those_o flame_n of_o hell_n which_o torment_v the_o body_n of_o the_o damn_a though_o just_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v material_a be_v material_a after_o a_o spiritual_a manner_n they_o therefore_o be_v not_o to_o be_v hear_v who_o object_n against_o christ_n suffer_a hell-pain_n in_o his_o body_n because_o there_o be_v no_o visible_a instrument_n of_o such_o bodily_a pain_n if_o any_o say_v his_o bodily_a pain_n be_v not_o equal_a to_o the_o bodily_a pain_n of_o they_o that_o be_v in_o hell_n that_o be_v grant_v to_o they_o therein_o which_o they_o be_v unable_a to_o prove_v it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o integrate_a and_o make_v up_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o full_a measure_n of_o wrath_n upon_o christ_n that_o if_o his_o bodily_a torment_n be_v not_o equal_a to_o the_o bodily_a torment_n of_o the_o damn_a yet_o what_o be_v not_o execute_v upon_o his_o body_n be_v execute_v upon_o his_o soul_n the_o measure_n of_o hell-pain_n be_v make_v up_o without_o bodily_a pain_n in_o the_o angel_n that_o fall_v and_o if_o haply_o some_o mind_n labour_v concern_v the_o capacity_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o a_o mere_a man_n to_o hold_v such_o a_o measure_n of_o torment_n they_o may_v remember_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v both_o god_n and_o man_n be_v above_o that_o objection_n exceed_v the_o capacity_n of_o all_o man_n and_o angel_n by_o reason_n of_o his_o personal_a union_n dialogu_n how_o long_o do_v he_o suffer_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n be_v it_o for_o ever_o or_o how_o long_o do_v he_o suffer_v they_o and_o when_o do_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n first_o seize_v on_o he_o and_o when_o be_v be_v find_v free_v from_o they_o or_o do_v he_o suffer_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n at_o several_a time_n or_o in_o several_a place_n or_o but_o at_o one_o time_n or_o place_n only_o answ_n his_o suffering_n though_o temporal_a in_o respect_n of_o duration_n be_v eternal_a in_o efficacy_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o eminency_n of_o the_o person_n it_o be_v more_o for_o a_o infinite_a person_n to_o suffer_v for_o a_o time_n then_o for_o all_o finite_a person_n to_o suffer_v for_o ever_o christ_n suffer_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n upon_o the_o cross_n where_o he_o bear_v the_o moral_a curse_n gal._n 3.13_o and_o in_o the_o garden_n mat._n 26._o though_o his_o suffering_n in_o the_o garden_n and_o upon_o the_o cross_n be_v the_o principal_a and_o therefore_o call_v the_o passion_n emphatical_o yet_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o suffering_n from_o his_o conception_n unto_o his_o passion_n be_v integral_a part_n thereof_o that_o be_v such_o without_o which_o his_o passive_a obedience_n be_v not_o complete_v he_o be_v free_v from_o they_o at_o his_o death_n job_n 19.30_o he_o be_v free_v from_o the_o sensible_a part_n of_o his_o suffering_n at_o his_o death_n from_o suffering_n simple_o at_o his_o resurrection_n that_o christ_n suffer_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n be_v reveal_v which_o be_v the_o question_n though_o many_o circumstance_n of_o time_n and_o place_n be_v not_o reveal_v these_o be_v impertinent_a and_o captious_a quere_n dialogu_n be_v he_o torment_v without_o any_o forgiveness_n or_o do_v abraham_n deny_v he_o the_o least_o drop_n of_o water_n to_o cool_v his_o tongue_n answ_n christ_n be_v torment_v without_o any_o forgiveness_n god_n spare_v he_o nothing_o of_o the_o due_a debt_n rom._n 8.32_o mat._n 26.39_o but_o god_n give_v he_o a_o discharge_n when_o the_o debt_n be_v pay_v isa_n 53.10_o col._n 2.14_o he_o have_v not_o then_o so_o much_o as_o the_o least_o drop_n of_o water_n to_o ease_v he_o of_o the_o least_o particle_n of_o suffer_v due_a unto_o he_o according_a to_o justice_n but_o be_v whole_o forsake_v in_o respect_n of_o any_o participation_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o good_a of_o the_o promise_n for_o the_o time_n mat._n 27.46_o dialogu_n do_v christ_n inflict_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n upon_o his_o own_o humane_a nature_n be_v his_o divine_a nature_n angry_a with_o his_o humane_a nature_n or_o do_v his_o divine_a nature_n forsake_v his_o humane_a nature_n in_o anger_n as_o it_o must_v have_v do_v if_o it_o have_v suffer_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n if_o so_o than_o he_o destroy_v the_o personal_a union_n of_o his_o two_o nature_n and_o then_o he_o make_v himself_o no_o mediator_n but_o a_o curse_a damn_a sinner_n answ_n the_o second_o person_n of_o the_o