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A14435 A very Christian, learned, and briefe discourse, concerning the true, ancient, and Catholicke faith, against all wicked vp-start heresies seruing very profitably for a preseruatiue against the profane nouelties of papists, Anabaptists, Arrians, Brownists, and all other sectaries. First composed by Vincentius Lirinensis in Latine, about twelue hundreth yeares ago. And now faithfully translated into English, and illustrated with certaine marginall notes. By Thomas Tuke.; Pro catholicae fidei antiquitate libellus. English Vincent, of LĂ©rins, Saint, d. ca. 450.; Tuke, Thomas, d. 1657. aut 1611 (1611) STC 24753; ESTC S102090 49,335 192

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more easily perswade men also vnto euill as the Apostle saith It wrought death vnto me by that which was good Either therefore as wee said before to the end that hee might deceiue he doth in some places of his writings glory that he doth beleeue on Christ one person of Christ or else surely hee saith that two persons now after the Virgins deliuerāce did so meete and knit in one Christ that yet he holds there were two Christs at the time of her conceptiō or deliuering a little afterwards And whereas intruth Christ was at the first borne an ordinary and meere man and not yet partaker of the vnity of the person of God the Word afterwards the person of the Word assuming him descended into him And although now being assumed he do remain in the glory of God yet it seemeth to him that for some space there was no difference betwixt him other mē CHAP. 18. THese things therefore Nestorius Apollinaris Photinus like madde dogs doe barke against the Catholicke faith Photinus by not confessing the Trinity Appollinaris in saying that the nature of the Word is conuertible not acknowledging two substances in Christ and by denying either the whole soule of Christ or at the least the minde reason in the soule and by affirming that the Word of God was in stead thereof Nestorius by auouching either that there are alwaies two Christs or that there were two some while But the Catholike Church iudging rightly both of God and of our Sauiour blasphemeth neither against the mystery of the Trinity nor against the Incarnation of Christ For it worshippeth both one Diuinity in a perfect Trinity and the equality of the Trinity in one and the same Maiesty and acknowledgeth one Iesus Christ not two and that same is both God and Man It beleeueth indeed that there is one person In him but two substances it beleeueth there are two substances but one person two substances because the Word of God is not changeable that it should be turned into flesh and one person least by professing two Sons it may seeme to worship a Quaternity or Foure not a Trinity or Three CHAP. 19. BVt it is worth our labour to lay open this point with diligence more distinctly and more plainly In God there is one substance but three persons In Christ there be two substances but one person In the Trinity there is distinction of persons but no diuersity of nature In our Sauiour there is diuersity of nature but no difference of person How is there in the Trinity distinctiō of persons but no difference of nature Namely because there is one person of the Father another of the Sonne and another of the holy Ghost but yet the nature of the Father and of the Sonne and of the holy Ghost is not diuers but one the same How is there in our Sauiour differēce of natures but not of person Surely because there is one substance of the Diuinity another of the Humanity but yet the God-head and Manhead are not two persons but one and the same Christ one the same Sonne of God and one and the same person of one and the same Christ and Sonne of God As in a man the Flesh is one nature and the Soule another but the soule and the flesh is one and the same man In Peter Paul the soule is one nature and the flesh another but yet the flesh and soule are not two Peters neither is the soule one Paul and the flesh another Paul but one and the same Peter and one and the same Paul subsisting of the double and diuers nature of the soule and of the body So then in one and the same Christ there are two substances but one is diuine the other is humane one of the Father God the other of the Mother the Virgin one coëternall and equall to the Father the other consubstantiall to the Mother yet one and the same Christ in both the substance There is not therefore one Christ God and another Man not one vncreated and another created not one that cannot suffer and another that can suffer not one equal to the Father another lesser then the Father another of the mother But one and the same Christ is God and Man the same is vncreated and created the same could not bee changed and could not suffer the same was changed and did suffer the same is equall to the Father inferiour the same was begotten of the Father before time the same is borne of his Mother in time perfect God and perfect Man in God is the soueraigne Diuinity in Man the whole Humanity I say the whole Humanity which comprehendeth both the Soule and the Flesh yea true flesh our flesh and the mothers flesh a soule also indued with vnderstanding furnished with iudgement reason There is therefore in Christ the Word a Soule and Flesh but all this is one Christ one Sonne of God and one Sauiour and Redeemer of vs. And one not by I wot not what corruptible confusion of the God-head and Man-head but by a certaine entire and singular vnity of person For that coniunction doth not conuert and change the one into the other which is an errour proper to the Arrians but hath so conioyned both the natures in one that the singularity or vnity of one the same persō abiding alwaies in Christ the property of either nature remaineth also for euer so that verily the body doth neuer at any time begin to be God nor cease at any time to bee a body which is also made manifest by an example of an humane case For neither for the present onely but for the future also euery man shall consist of body and soule yet neither shall the body euer bee changed into the soule or the soule into the body but euery man being to continue euer the difference of both the substances shall continue for euer in euery man euen so in Christ also the property of both the substances is to bee reteined of them both for euer but yet the vnity of the person being preserued safe CHAP. 20. BVt whereas wee doe often name this word Person and say that God in person was made man wee must greatly feare that we do not seeme to say this That God the word did onely by the resemblance of action take vpon him those things that appertaine to vs and that hee wrought whatsoeuer belonged to the cōuersation of a man as it were in shew and not as a true Man as is wont to be done on the stages where one man doth suddenly represent many persons of the which himselfe is none For as often as there is made a resemblance of another mans action the duties and deedes of others are so done as that yet these men that act them are not the very same men whom they do act or counterfeit For that we may for illustration