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A05223 Dutifull and respective considerations vpon foure seuerall heads of proofe and triall in matters of religion Proposed by the high and mighty prince, Iames King of Great Britayne, France, and Ireland &c. in his late booke of premonition to all christian princes, for clearing his royall person from the imputation of heresy. By a late minister & preacher in England.; Dutifull and respective considerations upon foure severall heads of proofe and triall in matters of religion. Leech, Humphrey, 1571-1629.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. aut 1609 (1609) STC 15362.5; ESTC S100271 179,103 260

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DVTIFVLL AND RESPECTIVE CONSIDERATIONS VPON FOVRE SEVERALL HEADS OF PROOFE AND TRIALL IN MATTERS OF RELIGION PROPOSED By the High and Mighty Prince IAMES King of Great Britayne France and Ireland c. in his late Booke of Premonition to all Christian Princes for clearing his Royall Person from the imputation of Heresy By a late Minister and Preacher in England August lib. contrae Iudaeos Pagan Arian cap. 20. You must know deare brethren that true faith sincere peace perpetuall saluation is only by the Catholicke faith for it is not in a corner but euery where all If any man depart from it and deliuer himselfe vp to the errors of Heretickes he shall be iudged and condemned as a fugitiue bond-man Permissu Superiorum M. DC IX THE FOVRE HEADS OF IVST TRIALL mentioned by his Maiesty of England as touching his owne Person 1. THE reuerencing and belieuing of the Canonicall Scriptures as they ought to be and so also the not Canonicall 2. THE admitting of the first three Creeds of the Apostles of the Nicen Councell of S. Athanasius 3. THE acknowledging accepting the first foure generall Councels of Christendome to wit of Nice of Constantinople of Ephesus of Chalcedon 4. THE crediting of the Fathers of the first fiue hundred yeares after Christ eyther iointly or seuerally in points of moderne controuersies Euery head is handled by diuers Considerations as by the sequent Catalogue of Chapters will appeare THE GENERALL CONTENTS OF THIS BOOKE THE Epistle to his Maiesty declaring the motiues which the Author had to write this Treatise THE FIRST CHAPTER Conteining an entrance into this Treatise or Triall how much it importeth to be a Catholicke and no Hereticke And with how great reason his Maiesty endeuoureth to cleare him selfe and his Royall Person from the imputation of heresie FIVE CONSIDERATIONS 1 About the wordes Catholicke and Hereticke and that they can neuer agree in one 2 Of the dreadfull misery of being an Hereticke 3 How a man may certainely and without errour discerne what is Catholicke and what is Hereticall 4 How out of the premisses euery man may iudge in what state he standeth for being Hereticke or Catholicke 5 The Conclusion of all this whole Chapter to his Maiesty THE SECOND CHAPTER THat treateth the first head touched by his Maiesty for tryall of a Christian Catholicke which is the belieuing of holy Scriptures FOVRE CONSIDERATIONS 1 The belieuing of Scripture not sufficient to make a mā a Catholick 2 That Scriptures were not writtē for many yeares after the Church began 3 How to know what is truly Scripture 4 How the true sense of Scripture may be tryed THE THIRD CHAPTER COncerning the secōd point or generall head professed by his Maiesty cōcerning his belieuing of the three Creeds receiued by the Church THREE CONSIDERATIONS 1 How the first three Creeds and why they were ordayned and how greatly they are to be reuerenced 2 That the Ministers of England belieue not wholy entirely the faith of the three Creeds 3 In what particuler articles of the Creeds English Protestants do not agree with vs. THE FOVRTH CHAPTER COncerning the approbation allowance of the first soure generall Councels which is the third generall head of triall offered proposed by his Excellent Maiesty of England THREE CONSIDERATIONS 1 VVhy and how these foure first Councels were gathered and how thereby it is conuinced that the Church cannot erre 2 VVhy the Protestants do not nor can remedy their diuisions by any Generall or Nationall Councell 3 Particuler points of differences between these first foure Generall Councels and the Protestants of our time for doctrine manners THE FIFTH CHAPTER COncerning the admittance acceptance of the anciēt Fathers of the first fiue hundred years after Christ which is the fourth last head of triall offered alledged by his Maiesty of England THREE CONSIDERATIONS 1 The different esteeme that Catholicks Protestāts do make of ancient Fathers when they agree in one 2 How Catholicks Protestants do esteeme of the testimonies of particuler Fathers 3 That the Fathers of euery age for the first fiue hundred yeares did make for Catholicks against Protestants in matters now in controuersy THE SIXT CHAPTER COnteyning a briefe contemplation of what hitherto hath byn said with a Conclusion of the whole to his most Excellent Maiesty TO THE HIGH AND PVISSANT PRINCE MY DREAD LORD AND SOVERAIGNE IAMES BY THE GRACE OF GOD of Great Britayne France Ireland KING c. AFTER I had bent my selfe vnto a serious Suruey and diligent perusall of your Maiesties new Booke bearing the inscription of a Preface or Premonition to all Christian Princes diuers were the apprehensions and impressions it made in the different faculties of my soule Reuoluing therefore and reflecting vpon the premises by a second reuiew I resolued and in fine concluded being now as it were wonderfully affected partly with sollace partly with sollicitude 2. My solace was to consider yea sensibly as it were before the eyes of my soule in the impartiall glasse of my recollectedst vnderstanding and most retyred iudgment to behould so many rare Princely talents of nature literature and other highly esteemed partes in your Maiesty which as they are seldome found in such potent Princes so residing habitually in your Royall breast as in their proper and peculiar subiect they cannot but minister iust matter of meruailous ioy content and comfort vnto all your leige people your loyall and louing subiects especially since they are accompanied and attended yea adorned nay beautifyed with the irradiant lustre of that burning fire of zeale I meane an extraordinary feruour in matters of your Religion Now if these so rare parts of nature literature and zeale wherwith your Noble Person is habitually inuested shall be directed by the singer of God his holy spirit the high hand of heauen vnto the sole-sacred and soule-sauing knowledge of Catholicke Religion which I verily hope in time to see and shall incessantly pray for they will exceedingly aduance his glory and gaine vnto your Maiesty an immarcessible neuer-fading Crowne of eternity 3. My spirit also reioyced within me my hart exulted for ioy my perplexed thoughts retyred reposed themselues in hope whē I tooke but a iust view of that commendable carefull diligence that pious and religious industrie vsed by your Maiesty in vindieating your noble Person from the least imputation of herefy and in remouing the very suspition of such a contagious and soule quessing leprosy since that this loud-crying synne loud-crying in the eares of heauen is the greatest crime that can be committed against God or his Church separating betwixt God and man grace and the soule dissoluing the mysteriall vnion and sacramentall communion betwixt the head the members Christ his spouse reiecting God for Father denying the Church for mother taking away the very name of a Christian as ancient Tertullian speaketh depriuing our expectation of all hope and
out of the new All these I say are receiued by those of the Roman Religion for Canonicall Scriptures in the sense before defined out of S. Augustine that is to say for holy and diuine bookes written by the finger of Almighty God by the ministery of those who were Pennes of a ready writer and consequently these of the second ranke were of no lesse authority nor infallible verity then those of the first order for that in things immediatly and a like proceeding from God his spirit there can not be lesse or more truth but all are of equall credit and so equally to be receaued honoured esteemed and belieued And thus much for the Catholickes who for a infallible ground and assured direction in this matter follow not any priuate erring spirit but the neuer-deceiuing authority of the Church which Church and spouse of Christ being guided by the spirit of God according to the promise of Christ her bridegrome hath from all ancient time in former ages in her Councells Synodes and Ecclesiasticall Decrees notified declared determined and established the authority of these foresaid bookes of the second rew for infallible and Canonicall that is to say declared them to be such and euer haue bene such to wit of most certaine and infallible truth though sometimes and amongst some men there haue bene doubt thereof And this is the manner of the Church to declare what is Scripture but not to make it 30. But as for the Protestants I find such diuersity and contrariety such opposition and contradiction among them that they seeme vnto me as mē in tangled shall I say nay perplexed and distracted not knowing what to doe or whither to fly or which way to turne them in this great busines of discerning and admitting Scriptures And surely the reason of all this misery ariseth from themselues alone Perditio tua ex te it was spoken of Israells transgression but neuer more truly verified thē of hereticall innouation for that these miserable deceiued and deceiuing soules leauing the high rode of the Churches prescription can neuer possibly attaine vnto any infallible direction one following one thing and another another and that in this maine point of the Scriptures importance Quot capita tot sententia euery man will be a chooser euery one will shew himselfe an Hereticke whence it commeth to passe that Gods word is wretchedly abused blasphemed reiected by some rent and torne in peeces by others and that which on God his part was ordained and prepared for them to be a sauour of life vnto life becommeth by their misusage of it a sauour of death vnto death and to speake all in a word through the fault of their owne peruerse will concurring and God his most righteous iudgment following them hard at the heeles it commeth to passe that that word which was giuen as a pillar of fire to direct and lighten them into all verity is turned into a pillar of smoke so darkening and infatuating their vnderstanding that they rush headlong into all kind of heresie 31. This being well peceiued by his Maiesty of England according to that notable apprehension of his Noble Nature he as it were out of a pious zealous and Religious disposition though wrongly missed by some time-seruing and Statizing Theologue who is somewhat to neere vnto his Royall Person writeth as in part before you haue heard concerning the Scriptures and it is in effect as followeth As for the Scriptures no man doubteth I will belieue them But euen for the Apocrypha I hould them in the same accompt that the Ancients did they are still printed and bound with our Bibles and publikely read in our Churches I reuerence them as writings of holy and good men but since they are not found in the Canon we accompt them to be secundae lectionis or ordinis which is Bellarmines owne distinction and therefore not sufficient wherupon alone to ground any article of faith except it be confirmed by some other place of Canonicall Scripture Thus writeth his Maiesty out of a good meaning no doubt and therefore great pitty it is that so Vertuous and Religious a Hart should erre or conceipt amisse But who shall determine whether these Scriptures here called Apocrypha which are those of the second order before mentioned be Canonicall Scriptures or not Herelyeth the substance of the questiō His Matie heere vpon the suggestion of his Domesticall Ministers of England saith no but the ancient Church of Christendome saith yea as doth also the present and her iudgement being in this case aboue all earthly authority is to strike the stroke betwixt God and man Let the word of my Soueraigne in all otherthings stand as the strong moūtaine that may not be remoued and as the law of the Medes and Persians which could neuer be altered only let not my lord the King be displeased with his seruant and subiect in this if his word may not stand but must of necessity fall to the ground as being countermaunded by the word of God that cannot nor will not be disauthorized by the word of any mortall man 32. It was suggested to his Matie but sinister was the information that Cardinall Bellarmine in his first booke de Verbo Dei cap. 4. held the former distinction of secundae lectionis or ordinis and that in his Maiesties sense but it is nothing so in the sense that here is set downe by his Maiesty to wit that this second order of bookes are of lesse authority then the first For albeit Bellarmine doth as before hath bene said deuide all the bookes that are in the Bible into three ranks or orders first into such as were neuer called in question by any Catholicke men Secondly into such as notwithstāding sometimes haue byn doubted of by some yet were afterwards admitted by the whole vniuersall Church And thirdly and lastly into Apocrypha yet doth he not either call those bookes of the second order Apocrypha or secundae lectionis as here is set downe nor yet secundi ordinis in his Maiesties sense as though they were lesse to be belieued and of lesse authority then those of the first ranke but rather he auerreth the quite contrary that they are all of one and the selfe same authority And therfore whosoeuer he was that suggested this place of Bellarmine vnto his Matie he dealt not well and sincerly therin with his Prince and he is bound by the law of conscience and by the law of a subiect towards his Soueraigne to acknowledge his errour were it of malice or of ignorance committed and humbly prostrate vpon his knees to craue pardon for this abusing of his Lord and euer after to beware how he presume to whisper any such vntruth palpable and notorious falshood into the eares of his dread Lord and King 33. But now forasmuch as this point of denying the infallible authority and irrefragable credit of any the least booke part or parcell of