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A60334 True Catholic and apostolic faith maintain'd in the Church of England by Andrew Sall ... ; being a reply to several books published under the names of J.E., N.N. and J.S. against his declaration for the Church of England, and against the motives for his separation from the Roman Church, declared in a printed sermon which he preached in Dublin. Sall, Andrew, 1612-1682. 1676 (1676) Wing S394A; ESTC R22953 236,538 476

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tenet_n doctor_n tertiam_fw-la sententiam_fw-la nempè_fw-la panem_fw-la converti_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la quia_fw-la sic_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la tenet_fw-la 1639._o tenet_fw-la edit_fw-la lugdun_fw-la a_o 1639._o vid._n scot._n in_o 4._o do_v 10._o q._n 3._o scotus_n hold_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v convert_v into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n because_o the_o church_n declare_v it_o so_o in_o the_o lateran_n council_n not_o for_o any_o authority_n of_o scripture_n or_o reason_n which_o can_v move_v he_o to_o it_o the_o same_o i_o may_v easy_o prove_v of_o other_o learned_a schoolman_n by_o this_o you_o may_v see_v mr._n i._n s._n his_o rashness_n in_o say_v i_o do_v most_o false_o impose_v upon_o scotus_n what_o both_o bellarmin_n and_o himself_o declare_v to_o be_v his_o proper_a opinion_n of_o the_o same_o opinion_n with_o scotus_n be_v durandus_fw-la in_o 4._o sent._n do_v 11._o q._n 1._o sect_n propter_fw-la 3._o where_o he_o declare_v that_o the_o opinion_n affirm_v the_o substance_n of_o bread_n to_o remain_v after_o consecration_n be_v more_o convenient_a to_o obviate_v