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A62253 An answer to an anonimous pamphleteer, who impugns the doctrine contain'd in St. Athanasius his creed by J. Savage Gent. Savage, J. (John), 1645-1721. 1690 (1690) Wing S767; ESTC R8106 11,495 20

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