Selected quad for the lemma: nature_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
nature_n	divine_a	person_n	unite_v	6,435	5	9.4739	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A65881	The Quakers plainness detecting fallacy in two short treatises : I. The first in answer to an abusive epistle, styl'd, The Quakers quibbles, and the comparison therein between the Muggletonians and the Quakers, proved absurd and unjust, II. The second, being a brief impeachment of the forger's compurgators (in their Quakers appeal answered) whose injustice, partiality and false glosses have given the chief occasion of these late contests / by George Whitehead.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1674 (1674)	Wing W1949; ESTC R38608	33,527	88

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his_o dialogue_n that_o they_o be_v the_o quaker_n answer_v etc._n etc._n but_o this_o writer_n against_o we_o carp_n and_o traduce_v on_o every_o slight_a occasion_n will_v the_o baptist_n think_v it_o fair_a to_o be_v publish_v in_o print_n for_o liar_n fool_n and_o unjust_a on_o such_o a_o account_n but_o for_o w.p._n his_o accuse_a t._n hicks_n with_o be_v both_o a_o liar_n and_o forger_n he_o have_v both_o prove_v he_o such_o a_o one_o in_o his_o book_n and_o further_o urge_v to_o prove_v his_o charge_n against_o he_o public_o since_o his_o abettor_n have_v endeavour_v to_o cover_v and_o uphold_v he_o but_o it_o seem_v it_o be_v the_o language_n lie_v and_o forgery_n and_o liar_n and_o forger_n that_o be_v find_v fault_n with_o here_o and_o not_o the_o application_n thereof_o when_o as_o the_o scripture_n prove_v such_o language_n as_o thou_o love_v lie_v rather_o then_o to_o speak_v righteousness_n you_o be_v forger_n of_o lie_n etc._n etc._n see_v psal._n 52.3_o job_n 13.4_o joh._n 8.55_o rev._n 2.2_o &_o 3.9_o &_o 21.8_o tit._n 1.12_o his_o accuse_v some_o of_o the_o quaker_n with_o quibble_v as_o much_o about_o the_o word_n body_n as_o about_o the_o word_n christ_n i_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o no_o better_a than_o quibble_v against_o we_o instead_o of_o prove_v we_o guilty_a by_o plain_a scripture_n for_o to_o say_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v his_o body_n and_o that_o there_o be_v one_o body_n and_o one_o spirit_n and_o that_o they_o that_o be_v join_v to_o christ_n be_v member_n of_o his_o body_n this_o be_v according_a to_o scripture-language_n as_o also_o that_o the_o body_n be_v one_o and_o have_v may_o member_n so_o also_o be_v christ_n and_o be_v not_o the_o saint_n spiritual_o unite_v into_o christ_n and_o unto_o his_o spiritual_a and_o glorious_a body_n be_v christ_n head_n of_o his_o church_n in_o any_o other_o body_n then_o that_o whereof_o they_o be_v member_n and_o unite_v to_o he_o and_o will_v this_o admit_v of_o christ_n be_v head_n of_o two_o separate_a body_n or_o of_o three_o christ_n as_o his_o state_v the_o distinction_n upon_o g._n keith_n that_o christ_n be_v most_o proper_o take_v for_o the_o divine_a nature_n less_o proper_o for_o the_o human_a nature_n &_o least_o proper_o for_o the_o carkas●_n pag._n 28._o whereas_o this_o be_v so_o far_o from_o g._n keith_n prove_v three_o christ_n that_o the_o word_n human_a nature_n and_o carcase_n be_v j._n ives_n not_o g._n k_n as_o the_o first_o be_v herein_o grant_v though_o g._n keith_n own_v the_o word_n divine_a nature_n manhood_n and_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o confess_v the_o name_n christ_n to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o body_n when_o crucify_v and_o dead_a though_o less_o proper_o then_o to_o the_o divine_a nature_n and_o entire_a manhood_n since_o that_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v the_o christ_n of_o god_n before_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o body_n prepare_v for_o he_o as_o j.i._n have_v grant_v in_o his_o book_n inocency_n above_o impudence_n p._n 37._o by_o his_o argument_n that_o christ_n be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n ergo_fw-la the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v christ_n &_o as_o i_o answer_v though_o i_o can_v not_o be_v hear_v that_o the_o name_n christ_n be_v mutual_o and_o reciprocal_o give_v in_o scripture_n to_o the_o body_n and_o spirit_n of_o christ_n as_o christ_n die_v and_o be_v bury_v when_o it_o be_v proper_o the_o body_n of_o jesus_n for_o his_o soul_n or_o spirit_n be_v immortal_a &_o do_v not_o die_v but_o be_v in_o paradyse_n when_o his_o body_n be_v bury_v and_o that_o spiritual_a rock_n which_o ●ll_o israel_n drink_v of_o be_v christ._n do_v the_o scripture_n herein_o make_v two_o christ_n no_o sure_o no_o more_o will_v g.k._n his_o distinction_n bear_v three_o christ_n in_o three_o distinct_a person_n as_o the_o man_n unscriptural_o and_o quibble_o word_n it_o pag._n 28._o and_o further_o it_o be_v very_o strange_a that_o w._n p._n in_o correct_v the_o baptist_n and_o other_o to_o set_v up_o his_o own_o as_o the_o true_a church_n must_v be_v impose_v upon_o to_o produce_v some_o of_o those_o gift_n or_o visible_a demonstration_n or_o eminent_a sign_n as_o be_v in_o the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n pag._n 29._o and_o 9_o when_o as_o he_o never_o make_v that_o a_o reason_n or_o ground_n to_o correct_v other_o for_o want_n of_o such_o sign_n as_o the_o gift_n of_o tongue_n miracle_n etc._n etc._n but_o for_o some_o un-christian_a principle_n or_o practice_n however_o in_o this_o case_n our_o present_a opposer_n do_v argue_v as_o exact_o like_o the_o jesuit_n &_o papist_n against_o the_o protestant_n for_o correct_v they_o as_o if_o they_o have_v serve_v seven_o year_n at_o rome_n but_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v how_o the_o baptist_n themselves_o be_v in_o this_o manner_n except_v against_o after_o their_o first_o separation_n from_o other_o church_n and_o gather_v into_o a_o church_n of_o their_o own_o it_o be_v object_v against_o they_o if_o the_o lord_n be_v with_o we_o where_o be_v all_o those_o miracle_n which_o our_o father_n tell_v we_o of_o where_o be_v the_o gift_n of_o work_a miracle_n which_o be_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n &_o c_o and_o what_o defence_n do_v the_o baptist_n make_v for_o themselves_o herein_o but_o that_o the_o seek_v after_o and_o work_v miracle_n in_o that_o outward_a way_n that_o be_v sometime_o in_o scripture_n speak_v of_o and_o that_o these_o man_n intend_v be_v not_o essential_a to_o a_o believer_n and_o so_o not_o to_o a_o church_n nor_o a_o administrator_n see_v p._n 69._o of_o their_o book_n entitle_v a_o way_n to_o zion_n by_o d._n king_n print_v at_o london_n &_o reprint_v at_o edinburgh_n 1656._o also_o that_o miracle_n do_v not_o prove_v they_o disciple_n that_o miracle_n do_v not_o now_o distinguish_v a_o true_a church_n from_o a_o false_a ibid._n p._n 135_o 136._o yet_o as_o if_o they_o have_v quite_o forget_v these_o thing_n and_o the_o opposition_n and_o suffering_n which_o they_o former_o meet_v withal_o they_o bring_v their_o adversary_n objection_n against_o we_o and_o see_v if_o we_o shall_v only_o tell_v man_n we_o be_v in_o the_o truth_n the_o light_n within_o they_o will_v testify_v to_o our_o way_n it_o be_v demonstrable_a by_o the_o effect_n &_o that_o we_o have_v the_o spirit_n and_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o god_n and_o that_o it_o be_v within_o while_o the_o baptist_n so_o say_v they_o have_v it_o as_o he_o say_v p._n 31_o 32._o and_o that_o all_o this_o will_v not_o decide_v the_o controversy_n or_o manifest_v to_o our_o opposer_n a_o real_a discrimination_n between_o we_o to_o demonstrate_v we_o to_o be_v in_o the_o truth_n now_o as_o we_o have_v not_o this_o way_n impose_v a_o faith_n upon_o our_o opposer_n so_o we_o shall_v not_o thus_o impose_v upon_o either_o this_o man_n or_o the_o baptist_n but_o desire_v he_o and_o they_o may_v without_o prejudice_n seek_v and_o try_v further_o and_o try_v all_o thing_n and_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o where_o or_o in_o who_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n live_v and_o rule_n it_o will_v manifest_v itself_o by_o its_o fruit_n for_o it_o be_v self-evidencing_a and_o will_v discover_v who_o be_v the_o lord_n be_v peculiar_a people_n and_o who_o not_o but_o this_o quibbler_n impose_v upon_o w._n p._n to_o bring_v something_o for_o proof_n of_o his_o church_n which_o the_o baptist_n nor_o no_o false_a church_n can_v pretend_v to_o and_o produce_v pag._n 30._o though_o this_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o hard_a task_n especial_o as_o to_o what_o may_v be_v pretend_v yet_o it_o be_v no_o difficult_a mater_fw-la for_o w._n p._n and_o many_o more_o to_o produce_v or_o demonstrate_v some_o such_o effect_n of_o that_o live_a testimony_n presence_n and_o power_n of_o god_n among_o we_o as_o no_o false_a church_n can_v produce_v although_o herein_o neither_o w._n p._n nor_o any_o of_o we_o will_v admit_v of_o prejudice_v &_o envious_a spirit_n to_o be_v our_o judge_n or_o witness_n in_o these_o matter_n but_o we_o have_v a_o record_n in_o heaven_n and_o also_o in_o many_o conscience_n of_o the_o bless_a power_n and_o presence_n of_o god_n with_o we_o &_o among_o we_o turn_v many_o from_o darkness_n to_o light_n and_o from_o satan_n power_n to_o god_n and_o many_o there_o be_v among_o we_o gather_v out_o from_o baptist_n and_o other_o church_n and_o peoples_n who_o be_v live_v witness_n both_o of_o the_o bless_a operation_n and_o effect_n of_o the_o power_n and_o ministry_n of_o christ_n jesus_n among_o we_o which_o yet_o if_o the_o baptist_n shall_v object_v and_o say_v they_o see_v no_o such_o thing_n i_o answer_v that_o be_v because_o they_o have_v not_o honest_o make_v trial_n but_o stand_v in_o prejudice_n and_o gainsay_n

be_v the_o divine_a essence_n the_o light_n must_v be_v so_o also_o 1.4_o for_o such_o as_o the_o cause_n be_v such_o the_o effect_n must_v be_v thus_o g._n w._n in_o a_o manuscript_n whereas_o it_o be_v not_o thus_o lay_v down_o either_o in_o this_o method_n or_o form_n of_o argument_n in_o any_o manuscript_n of_o i_o that_o i_o know_v of_o or_o a_o remember_v or_o find_v out_o and_o yet_o i_o do_v own_o that_o the_o life_n which_o be_v the_o light_n of_o man_n that_o true_a light_n wherewith_o every_o ma●_n be_v enlighten_v joh._n 1.4.9_o in_o its_o own_o be_v be_v god_n and_o christ_n and_o not_o a_o mere_a effect_n of_o power_n as_o a_o make_v or_o create_v thing_n but_o divine_a and_o increated_a it_o appear_v that_o these_o witness_n have_v receive_v divers_a thing_n on_o the_o credit_n of_o their_o brother_n t._n hicks_n who_o in_o like_a manner_n lay_v down_o the_o argument_n in_o his_o first_o dialogue_n yet_o they_o have_v the_o confidence_n to_o subscribe_v thereto_o though_o i_o confess_v i_o lay_v down_o my_o reason_n to_o prove_v that_o life_n which_o be_v the_o light_n of_o and_o in_o man_n divine_a thus_o far_o viz._n if_o that_o life_n which_o be_v the_o light_n of_o man_n be_v of_o the_o divine_a be_v than_o the_o light_n must_v be_v so_o also_o unto_o which_o i_o may_v now_o add_v the_o follow_a proposition_n but_o that_o life_n be_v of_o the_o divine_a be_v or_o of_o a_o divine_a nature_n therefore_o the_o light_n of_o man_n speak_v of_o joh._n 1.4_o 9_o must_v be_v so_o also_o i_o also_o grant_v that_o the_o cause_n and_o effect_n be_v speak_v of_o upon_o t._n h._n his_o esteem_v the_o light_n within_o but_o a_o effect_n etc._n etc._n to_o explain_v my_o sense_n of_o the_o cause_n and_o effect_v though_o not_o lay_v down_o in_o such_o a_o inconsistent_a argument_n be_v place_v upon_o i_o it_o be_v only_o admit_v a●_n between_o that_o divine_a life_n and_o its_o immediate_a illumination_n or_o lightning_n in_o man_n which_o natural_o 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god_n in_o man_n heart_n or_o conscience_n must_v needs_o be_v divine_a and_o supernatural_a because_o he_o himself_o be_v so_o who_o be_v the_o fountain_n of_o light_n that_o eternal_a life_n which_o be_v with_o the_o father_n 1_o joh._n 1.2_o be_v divine_a and_o that_o life_n be_v and_o be_v the_o light_n of_o man_n joh._n 1.4_o and_o so_o it_o be_v god_n who_o have_v shine_v in_o our_o heart_n to_o give_v the_o light_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n in_o the_o face_n of_o jesus_n christ_n 2_o cor._n 4.6_o and_o his_o shine_a we_o hope_v will_v not_o now_o be_v deny_v to_o be_v divine_a be_v immediate_o of_o and_o from_o himself_o and_o he_o so_o shine_v in_o their_o heart_n before_o they_o be_v come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n in_o the_o face_n of_o christ_n jesus_n in_o order_n to_o give_v they_o that_o knowledge_n and_o i_o further_o add_v let_v it_o therefore_o suffice_v that_o it_o be_v my_o principle_n that_o the_o life_n which_o be_v the_o light_n of_o man_n mention_v joh._n 1.4.9_o be_v divine_a supernatural_a and_o so_o increa●●d_v and_o it_o be_v never_o my_o judgement_n or_o word_n that_o it_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a effect_n as_o a_o thing_n make_v but_o that_o in_o its_o own_o be_v it_o be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o life_n of_o god_n and_o so_o himself_o and_o that_o every_o measure_n or_o degree_n of_o his_o immediate_a light_n inshining_a or_o illumination_n in_o man_n be_v divine_a and_o spiritual_a and_o able_a to_o direct_v the_o soul_n to_o god_n &_o christ_n from_o whence_o it_o come_v know_v also_o that_o god_n love_n and_o grace_n in_o christ_n be_v universal_a and_o free_a to_o all_o mankind_n and_o why_o we_o shall_v be_v vnchristian_v for_o confess_v christ_n to_o be_v that_o light_n which_o enlighten_v every_o man_n that_o come_v into_o the_o world_n or_o for_o say_v that_o the_o light_n in_o man_n be_v divine_a i_o do_v not_o understand_v since_o t.h._n himself_o have_v confess_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o life_n and_o light_n of_o man_n dial._n 1._o p._n 22._o though_o this_o he_o have_v often_o contradict_v and_o since_o make_v it_o a_o article_n against_o we_o to_o prove_v we_o no_o christian_n that_o we_o hold_v that_o the_o light_n wherewith_o every_o man_n be_v enlighten_v be_v god_n when_o he_o himself_o have_v confess_v that_o it_o be_v christ_n as_o namely_o that_o christ_n be_v the_o life_n and_o light_n of_o men._n sect._n v._o a_o slanderous_a accusation_n of_o t._n hicks_n against_o the_o quaker_n remove_v as_o to_o matter_n of_o fact_n whereas_o we_o be_v charge_v to_o say_v that_o it_o concern_v we_o to_o render_v our_o adversary_n as_o ridiculous_a as_o we_o can_v and_o to_o make_v our_o friend_n believe_v they_o do_v nothing_o but_o contradict_v themselves_o and_o if_o this_o fail_v that_o we_o will_v insinuate_v by_o way_n of_o question_n something_o that_o may_v be_v a_o slander_n to_o they_o dial._n 1._o pag._n 72._o and_o qu._n ap._n answ_o pag._n 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