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A61523 The bishop of Worcester's answer to Mr. Locke's second letter wherein his notion of ideas is prov'd to be inconsistent with itself, and with the articles of the Christian faith. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1698 (1698) Wing S5558; ESTC R3400 77,917 185

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name_n from_o thence_o too_o then_o substance_n and_o nature_n must_v be_v of_o the_o same_o importance_n and_o this_o notion_n of_o nature_n they_o do_v not_o take_v up_o mere_o from_o the_o etymology_n of_o the_o word_n but_o from_o the_o sense_n of_o it_o in_o scripture_n as_o when_o st._n paul_n say_v they_o worship_v those_o which_o by_o nature_n be_v no_o god_n 4.8_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o alexandrian_a copy_n have_v it_o more_o clear_o i._n e._n which_o be_v not_o real_o and_o substantial_o go_n they_o have_v the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o the_o divine_a property_n be_v attribute_v to_o they_o but_o because_o they_o have_v not_o the_o divine_a essence_n they_o be_v say_v not_o to_o be_v god_n by_o nature_n and_o what_o sense_n will_v this_o gentleman_n make_v of_o the_o apostle_n word_n who_o can_v for_o his_o life_n understand_v that_o nature_n be_v the_o same_o
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a_o late_a ingenious_a and_o honourable_a person_n and_o philosopher_n of_o our_o own_o i_o mean_v mr._n boyle_n 27._o who_o have_v write_v a_o philosophical_a enquiry_n into_o the_o notion_n of_o nature_n and_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o various_a acceptation_n of_o it_o 1._o for_o the_o author_n of_o nature_n 2._o for_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o thing_n 3._o for_o what_o come_v to_o man_n by_o birth_n as_o a_o man_n be_v noble_a by_o nature_n 4._o for_o a_o internal_a principle_n of_o motion_n as_o that_o a_o stone_n be_v carry_v downward_o by_o nature_n 5._o for_o the_o establish_a course_n of_o thing_n as_o that_o nature_n make_v the_o night_n to_o succeed_v the_o day_n 6._o for_o a_o aggregate_v of_o power_n belong_v to_o a_o live_a body_n as_o that_o nature_n be_v strong_a or_o weak_a 7._o for_o the_o system_fw-la of_o the_o universe_n as_o when_o we_o say_v of_o a_o chimaera_n there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o nature_n 8._o for_o a_o semideity_n which_o be_v the_o notion_n 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