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A71108 The reflections on the XXVIII propositions touching the doctrine of the Trinity, in a letter to the clergy, &c. maintain'd, against the Third defence of the said propositions by the same hand. Tindal, Matthew, 1653?-1733. 1695 (1695) Wing T1304; ESTC R4525 56,470 59

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the_o reflection_n on_o the_o xxviii_o proposition_n touch_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n in_o a_o letter_n to_o the_o clergy_n etc._n etc._n maintain_v against_o the_o three_o defence_n of_o the_o say_a proposition_n by_o the_o same_o hand_n 1_o tim._n 2._o 5._o for_o there_o be_v one_o god_n and_o one_o mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man_n the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n print_a in_o the_o year_n mdcxcv_o the_o reflection_n upon_o the_o xxviii_o proposition_n etc._n etc._n maintain_v though_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o three_o defence_n of_o the_o 28_o proposition_n etc._n etc._n that_o can_v as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v perceive_v enervate_v the_o least_o objection_n that_o be_v urge_v in_o my_o letter_n yet_o because_o the_o doctrine_n therein_o maintain_v tend_v to_o subvert_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n by_o introduce_v a_o plurality_n of_o god_n i_o can_v but_o think_v myself_o in_o conscience_n oblige_v to_o show_v the_o vanity_n of_o 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that_o be_v mention_v in_o my_o reflection_n the_o defender_n in_o his_o proposition_n assert_n that_o there_o be_v three_o eternal_a and_o necessary_a divine_a being_n or_o substance_n each_o of_o which_o have_v unlimited_a power_n wisdom_n and_o goodness_n and_o that_o so_o many_o man_n or_o angel_n be_v not_o more_o express_o distinguish_v in_o scripture_n as_o different_a person_n or_o substance_n prop._n 16_o 17._o and_o pag._n 8._o of_o the_o second_o defence_n i_o do_v affirm_v the_o son_n and_o spirit_n to_o be_v absolute_o perfect_a being_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o perfection_n of_o their_o nature_n they_o be_v all_o boundless_a and_o infinite_a so_o pag._n 10._o the_o father_n existence_n be_v without_o a_o cause_n do_v not_o make_v he_o to_o have_v another_o sort_n of_o nature_n from_o that_o of_o the_o son_n and_o spirit_n which_o may_v be_v a_o necessary_a nature_n and_o uncreated_a and_o constitute_v of_o all_o the_o boundless_a perfection_n of_o which_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o father_n consist_v abstract_v from_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o his_o existence_n and_o in_o the_o same_o page_n the_o divine_a nature_n speak_v of_o the_o nature_n of_o each_o do_v comprehend_v all_o perfection_n so_o pag._n 11._o a_o essence_n of_o the_o same_o kind_a though_o not_o the_o same_o numerical_a one_o so_o that_o here_o be_v three_o divine_a eternal_a necessary_a nature_n or_o essence_n as_o different_a as_o three_o human_a or_o angelical_a nature_n which_o at_o first_o sight_n appear_v as_o much_o to_o be_v three_o god_n as_o three_o human_a nature_n to_o be_v three_o man_n which_o be_v a_o revolt_n to_o polytheism_n or_o plurality_n of_o god_n except_o he_o can_v show_v that_o either_o two_o of_o these_o divine_a nature_n be_v not_o god_n or_o that_o these_o three_o divine_a nature_n be_v but_o one_o god_n we_o will_v therefore_o see_v what_o he_o say_v to_o these_o two_o point_n 1._o he_o say_v that_o the_o name_n of_o god_n be_v use_v in_o more_o sense_n than_o one_o in_o scripture_n in_o the_o high_a sense_n the_o father_n alone_o be_v god_n he_o be_v the_o only_a independent_a the_o only_a true_a the_o only_a good_a and_o great_a and_o self-existent_a god_n the_o son_n and_o spirit_n have_v a_o right_n to_o the_o name_n of_o god_n next_o to_o that_o which_o be_v appropriate_v to_o the_o father_n they_o depend_v on_o he_o with_o a_o entire_a dependence_n both_o for_o their_o be_v and_o continuance_n in_o be_v but_o be_v not_o this_o inconsistent_a with_o what_o be_v say_v before_o because_o it_o be_v first_o to_o assert_v that_o the_o different_a way_n or_o manner_n of_o have_v their_o nature_n do_v not_o make_v any_o difference_n in_o their_o nature_n the_o second_o and_o three_o be_v as_o true_o divine_a as_o the_o first_o and_o then_o in_o effect_n to_o suppose_v it_o do_v because_o the_o father_n have_v several_a perfection_n the_o other_o be_v uncapable_a of_o to_o this_o he_o reply_v the_o perfection_n the_o father_n have_v above_o they_o belong_v immediate_o to_o his_o existence_n not_o to_o his_o nature_n but_o what_o be_v existence_n abstract_v from_o the_o nature_n that_o exist_v but_o a_o chimaera_n if_o the_o nature_n do_v not_o exist_v it_o will_v not_o be_v a_o nature_n to_o say_v such_o a_o nature_n exist_v be_v to_o say_v it_o be_v not_o only_o in_o our_o imagination_n but_o real_o or_o in_o act_n to_o make_v the_o existence_n of_o a_o nature_n a_o distinct_a thing_n from_o the_o nature_n that_o exist_v and_o to_o suppose_v it_o to_o be_v the_o subject_a in_o which_o the_o attribute_n or_o perfection_n of_o independance_n and_o be_v the_o first_o original_a of_o all_o thing_n do_v exist_v be_v to_o suppose_v it_o a_o substance_n because_o we_o have_v no_o other_o idea_n of_o a_o substance_n but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o subject_a in_o which_o property_n exist_v which_o will_v be_v to_o make_v two_o distinct_a substance_n in_o god_n his_o nature_n that_o exist_v and_o the_o existence_n of_o his_o nature_n abstract_v from_o the_o nature_n what_o be_v the_o existence_n of_o god_n the_o father_n but_o the_o existence_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o god_n the_o father_n except_o he_o exist_v distinct_a from_o his_o nature_n and_o consequent_o if_o self-existence_n be_v so_o great_a a_o perfection_n it_o show_v that_o the_o self-existent_a nature_n of_o the_o father_n be_v more_o perfect_a than_o the_o not_o self-existent_a nature_n of_o the_o son_n but_o suppose_v self-existence_n which_o be_v existence_n of_o the_o father_n belong_v to_o the_o existence_n of_o the_o father_n which_o by_o the_o way_n be_v only_o suppose_v existence_n to_o belong_v to_o existence_n yet_o self-existence_n as_o i_o observe_v in_o my_o letter_n be_v only_o a_o perfection_n as_o it_o suppose_v necessary_a or_o independent_a existence_n and_o all_o those_o perfection_n that_o belong_v to_o a_o necessary_a or_o self-existent_a nature_n so_o that_o self-existence_n bare_o consider_v in_o itself_o abstract_o from_o those_o perfection_n notwithstanding_o his_o denial_n be_v no_o more_o a_o perfection_n than_o any_o other_o way_n of_o have_v existence_n if_o that_o way_n suppose_v the_o same_o perfection_n as_o suppose_v there_o be_v some_o matter_n self-existent_a and_o some_o other_o matter_n not_o self-existent_a and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o one_o be_v not_o any_o way_n different_a from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o other_o will_v they_o not_o be_v both_o equal_o perfect_a and_o a_o parcel_n of_o guinea_n make_v of_o the_o one_o be_v as_o good_a as_o a_o parcel_n of_o guinea_n make_v of_o the_o other_o or_o how_o can_v it_o be_v possible_a they_o be_v alike_o for_o weight_n colour_n duration_n etc._n etc._n to_o distinguish_v they_o and_o if_o it_o be_v so_o in_o low_a nature_n the_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o in_o the_o high_a nature_n but_o however_o to_o carry_v the_o simile_n as_o high_a as_o we_o can_v suppose_v a_o human_a self-existent_a father_n have_v two_o son_n who_o have_v all_o the_o perfection_n of_o human_a nature_n and_o do_v as_o necessary_o and_o independent_o exist_v as_o he_o there_o can_v be_v no_o reason_n assign_v but_o that_o they_o will_v be_v man_n in_o the_o high_a sense_n and_o as_o absolute_o perfect_a as_o the_o father_n he_o say_v in_o pag._n 44._o of_o the_o first_o defence_n that_o if_o a_o human_a father_n can_v be_v suppose_v to_o be_v self-existent_a and_o that_o his_o son_n have_v the_o now_o mention_a kind_n of_o dependence_n upon_o he_o viz._n as_o the_o light_n on_o the_o sun_n the_o consequence_n must_v be_v that_o their_o nature_n be_v short_a of_o the_o perfection_n of_o their_o father_n nature_n notwithstanding_o the_o many_o property_n they_o agree_v in_o which_o be_v own_v that_o self-existence_n and_o independence_n belong_v to_o the_o nature_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o father_n be_v different_a from_o
but_o one_o god_n i_o shall_v only_o instance_n one_o authority_n which_o may_v be_v instar_fw-la omnium_fw-la and_o that_o be_v grotius_n de_fw-fr verit_fw-la relig_n christ._n the_o first_o attribute_n of_o god_n say_v he_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o that_o excellent_a book_n be_v that_o he_o be_v one_o god_n and_o no_o more_o this_o be_v thence_o collect_v that_o he_o be_v that_o be_v which_o be_v necessary_o and_o by_o himself_o for_o whatsoever_o be_v necessary_o or_o by_o itself_o be_v not_o consider_v in_o kind_a but_o as_o it_o be_v in_o act_n but_o if_o you_o suppose_v more_o god_n than_o you_o will_v find_v nothing_o in_o each_o of_o they_o why_o any_o of_o they_o shall_v necessary_o be_v and_o no_o reason_n why_o there_o shall_v be_v rather_o two_o than_o three_o or_o ten_o then_o five_o add_v hereunto_o that_o the_o multiplicity_n of_o singular_a thing_n of_o the_o same_o kind_n proceed_v from_o the_o fecundity_n of_o cause_n by_o reason_n of_o which_o few_o or_o more_o thing_n be_v bring_v forth_o but_o god_n have_v no_o origin_n nor_o cause_n so_o that_o this_o great_a man_n be_v contrary_a to_o our_o author_n in_o every_o thing_n 1._o in_o suppose_v it_o impossible_a there_o shall_v be_v more_o than_o one_o necessary_a be_v 2._o that_o more_o than_o one_o such_o necessary_a be_v will_v infer_v more_o than_o one_o god_n and_o that_o god_n can_v not_o out_o of_o the_o fecundity_n of_o cause_n multiply_v his_o kind_a 3._o whatever_o have_v a_o cause_n or_o origin_n can_v not_o be_v god_n 4._o that_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o necessary_a be_v or_o be_v by_o itself_o or_o without_o a_o cause_n they_o be_v real_o one_o and_o the_o same_o with_o he_o and_o so_o they_o be_v with_o all_o that_o have_v write_v on_o this_o subject_a they_o suppose_v god_n self-existent_a or_o without_o a_o cause_n because_o he_o be_v necessary_a and_o eternal_a they_o never_o make_v use_n of_o our_o author_n be_v admirable_a distinction_n pag._n 50._o of_o have_v necessary_a existence_n from_o another_o and_o necessary_a existence_n from_o one_o self_n he_o ask_v i_o pag._n 48._o whether_o i_o think_v that_o god_n can_v be_v the_o necessary_a cause_n of_o nothing_o or_o whether_o the_o perfection_n of_o his_o nature_n do_v not_o determine_v he_o to_o do_v what_o be_v best_a or_o to_o do_v what_o he_o in_o his_o infinite_a wisdom_n know_v fit_a to_o be_v do_v to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o question_n between_o we_o be_v not_o what_o the_o perfection_n of_o his_o nature_n do_v determine_v he_o to_o but_o what_o the_o perfection_n of_o his_o nature_n be_v whether_o three_o perfect_a necessary_a nature_n or_o one_o only_a which_o be_v question_v whether_o the_o unity_n of_o god_n be_v a_o perfection_n or_o not_o whatsoever_o be_v necessary_o in_o god_n must_v contain_v the_o high_a perfection_n otherwise_o it_o will_v not_o be_v essential_a to_o his_o nature_n but_o god_n be_v in_o his_o own_o numerical_o one_o nature_n absolute_o and_o infinite_o happy_a and_o perfect_a two_o other_o divine_a nature_n can_v be_v in_o he_o or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o with_o our_o author_n emane_n from_o he_o necessary_o because_o they_o can_v add_v no_o perfection_n great_a or_o little_a to_o he_o who_o in_o his_o one_o nature_n contain_v all_o perfection_n whatever_o he_o and_o they_o together_o can_v be_v no_o more_o good_a powerful_a wise_a than_o he_o be_v alone_o he_o alone_o be_v all-sufficient_a and_o two_o other_o such_o nature_n can_v make_v he_o no_o more_o therefore_o it_o must_v be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o god_n and_o high_o injurious_a to_o his_o honour_n to_o suppose_v his_o nature_n necessary_o to_o emane_n two_o person_n who_o must_v be_v needless_a ad_fw-la intra_fw-la to_o god_n himself_o and_o as_o useless_a ad_fw-la extra_fw-la as_o god_n himself_o be_v all-sufficient_a but_o if_o god_n give_v a_o be_v free_o to_o the_o son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n because_o he_o in_o his_o infinite_a wisdom_n know_v it_o fit_a to_o be_v do_v they_o be_v no_o more_o necessary_a being_n than_a all_o other_o being_n which_o god_n also_o produce_v because_o he_o in_o his_o infinite_a wisdom_n know_v it_o fit_a to_o be_v do_v or_o that_o the_o perfection_n of_o his_o nature_n do_v determine_v he_o to_o what_o be_v best_a and_o consequent_o they_o as_o all_o other_o continue_v in_o be_v because_o god_n wisdom_n think_v it_o best_o but_o to_o say_v that_o god_n act_v otherways_o than_o so_o that_o be_v necessary_o in_o produce_v or_o cause_v the_o son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n to_o exist_v who_o be_v as_o distinct_a and_o different_a from_o he_o as_o two_o man_n be_v from_o all_o other_o man_n be_v either_o to_o make_v he_o act_v without_o understanding_n or_o else_o to_o act_v contrary_a to_o his_o mind_n for_o necessity_n only_o take_v place_n where_o thought_n be_v whole_o want_v or_o else_o the_o power_n to_o act_v or_o forbear_v act_v according_a to_o the_o direction_n of_o thought_n but_o if_o god_n do_v not_o give_v they_o then_o being_n neither_o as_o necessitate_v nor_o because_o he_o in_o his_o wisdom_n think_v fit_a which_o our_o author_n call_v necessary_o he_o can_v not_o there_o be_v no_o middle_a way_n give_v they_o their_o being_n at_o all_o or_o be_v the_o original_a or_o cause_n of_o they_o and_o consequent_o they_o have_v no_o origin_n or_o cause_n must_v be_v as_o much_o without_o a_o cause_n or_o self-existent_a as_o the_o father_n and_o the_o same_o necessity_n if_o i_o may_v so_o say_v that_o make_v the_o father_n to_o exist_v must_v make_v they_o exist_v and_o the_o father_n upon_o supposition_n that_o they_o necessary_o emane_v can_v be_v no_o more_o the_o original_a of_o they_o than_o of_o his_o own_o nature_n because_o the_o same_o necessity_n that_o make_v his_o nature_n exist_v make_v it_o emane_n it_o be_v as_o essential_a to_o it_o to_o emane_n as_o to_o exist_v and_o consequent_o the_o emane_a nature_n must_v be_v as_o self-existent_a and_o independent_a as_o his_o own_o nature_n since_o they_o no_o more_o depend_v on_o he_o for_o existence_n or_o continuance_n in_o existence_n than_o his_o own_o nature_n do_v which_o very_o thing_n will_v the_o defender_n serious_o consider_v it_o will_v make_v he_o abate_v of_o his_o confidence_n in_o his_o hypothesis_n but_o more_o of_o this_o hereafter_o 2._o now_o i_o shall_v remind_v he_o that_o though_o the_o design_n of_o his_o proposition_n be_v to_o prove_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n be_v not_o contradictory_n to_o natural_a reason_n yet_o they_o as_o i_o observe_v sect._n 64._o direct_o destroy_v the_o unity_n of_o god_n which_o be_v the_o second_o point_n i_o be_o to_o examine_v and_o that_o we_o may_v be_v assure_v there_o be_v not_o three_o person_n or_o divine_a nature_n in_o the_o godhead_n he_o affirm_v prop._n 13._o that_o the_o godhead_n or_o god_n in_o the_o high_a sense_n can_v be_v but_o one_o numerical_o and_o therefore_o the_o oneness_n so_o frequent_o affirm_v of_o he_o in_o scripture_n be_v a_o numerical_a oneness_n and_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o consid._n to_o which_o he_o refer_v i_o he_o say_v pag._n 23._o that_o the_o name_n of_o god_n in_o scripture_n be_v ever_o to_o be_v understand_v in_o the_o absolute_o high_a sense_n how_o can_v a_o unitarian_n in_o more_o direct_a term_n deny_v a_o trinity_n what_o he_o urge_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o trinity_n be_v pag._n 17._o where_o he_o say_v the_o holy_a scripture_n do_v abundant_o declare_v the_o unity_n of_o god_n but_o no_o where_o distinguish_v of_o unity_n nor_o say_v of_o what_o nature_n that_o unity_n be_v which_o it_o ascribe_v to_o god_n but_o be_v not_o this_o direct_o contradict_v prop._n 13._o where_o he_o declare_v of_o what_o nature_n or_o sort_n the_o unity_n of_o god_n be_v to_o wit_n a_o numerical_a unity_n and_o pag._n 22._o that_o the_o name_n of_o god_n in_o scripture_n be_v ever_o to_o be_v understand_v in_o that_o high_a sense_n and_o indeed_o it_o have_v be_v very_o absurd_a to_o suppose_v the_o scripture_n do_v frequent_o inculcate_v that_o god_n be_v one_o and_o yet_o not_o let_v we_o know_v in_o what_o sense_n he_o be_v one_o except_o it_o be_v obvious_a to_o common_a reason_n what_o that_o oneness_n be_v to_o wit_n one_o eternal_a absolute_o perfect_a necessary_a be_v it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o when_o we_o ascribe_v any_o thing_n to_o god_n as_o a_o perfection_n we_o ascribe_v it_o in_o the_o high_a sense_n and_o consequent_o the_o oneness_n of_o god_n must_v be_v take_v in_o that_o sense_n i_o desire_v to_o know_v what_o will_v destroy_v the_o unity_n of_o god_n if_o every_o thing_n treble_a in_o he_o will_v not_o do_v it_o as_o three_o nature_n with_o three_o unlimited_a power_n wisdom_n goodness_n but_o he_o
emaning_n except_o from_o nothing_o be_v as_o have_v be_v show_v nothing_o less_o than_o a_o contradiction_n yet_o our_o author_n tell_v we_o pag._n 18._o it_o be_v a_o very_a presumptuous_a conceit_n and_o in_o the_o second_o defence_n pag._n 25._o a_o intolerable_a presumption_n not_o to_o conclude_v it_o possible_a though_o he_o further_o say_v we_o have_v a_o clear_a idea_n of_o it_o than_o voluntary_a creation_n yet_o all_o the_o idea_n he_o give_v we_o of_o it_o be_v that_o it_o be_v a_o more_o excellent_a way_n of_o exist_v than_o that_o of_o creation_n but_o before_o i_o proceed_v in_o the_o examination_n of_o his_o hypothesis_n it_o will_v be_v necessary_a to_o obviate_v a_o exception_n he_o take_v at_o my_o use_v word_n take_v from_o material_a substance_n in_o discourse_v of_o spiritual_a one_o which_o be_v a_o most_o frivolous_a exception_n because_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o be_v avoid_v since_o we_o have_v no_o idea_n and_o consequent_o no_o word_n to_o express_v they_o in_o but_o what_o we_o have_v from_o sensible_a or_o material_a object_n and_o the_o operation_n of_o our_o mind_n about_o they_o as_o be_v full_o demonstrate_v in_o mr._n lock_n be_v essay_n of_o human_a understanding_n and_o it_o be_v sufficient_o evident_a from_o holy_a scripture_n itself_o which_o that_o we_o may_v understand_v it_o represent_v god_n with_o face_n eye_n hand_n bowel_n back_o part_n motion_n from_o place_n to_o place_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o spirit_n be_v describe_v as_o stand_v fall_v down_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o a_o word_n so_o be_v all_o other_o thing_n relate_v to_o spiritual_a being_n but_o this_o exception_n be_v very_o strange_a from_o one_o who_o hypothesis_n be_v build_v chief_o upon_o emanation_n which_o be_v a_o word_n borrow_a from_o matter_n and_o signify_v those_o minute_n part_n or_o effluvia_n of_o matter_n which_o flow_v from_o body_n and_o his_o hypothesis_n make_v the_o whole_a or_o the_o one_o divine_a essence_n either_o to_o emane_n from_o itself_o or_o to_o be_v divisible_a and_o have_v part_n emane_n from_o it_o or_o else_o what_o he_o say_v be_v whole_o unintelligible_a the_o first_o argument_n i_o make_v use_v of_o sect._n 57_o to_o show_v it_o impossible_a the_o son_n and_o spirit_n can_v emane_n from_o the_o father_n be_v that_o they_o be_v both_o infinite_a substance_n and_o as_o such_o be_v equal_a to_o suppose_v two_o infinite_n to_o emane_n from_o one_o be_v to_o suppose_v twice_o as_o much_o to_o emane_n from_o a_o be_v or_o substance_n as_o the_o be_v be_v to_o which_o he_o answer_v i_o change_v his_o phrase_n being_n who_o perfection_n be_v unlimited_a and_o who_o have_v all_o they_o can_v have_v without_o a_o manifest_a contradiction_n which_o phrase_n by_o the_o way_n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o his_o proposition_n but_o why_o may_v not_o i_o call_v they_o infinite_a substance_n since_o twice_o in_o his_o proposition_n by_o way_n of_o explication_n he_o call_v they_o substance_n and_o every_o where_o talk_v of_o the_o union_n of_o their_o substance_n and_o pag._n 56._o of_o his_o three_o defence_n define_v person_n by_o substance_n and_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o if_o the_o substance_n do_v not_o emane_n the_o perfection_n that_o subsist_v in_o they_o can_v emane_n and_o if_o the_o perfection_n be_v infinite_a or_o unlimited_a the_o substance_n can_v be_v finite_a or_o limit_v and_o pag._n 8._o he_o express_o say_v the_o son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v all_o boundless_a and_o infinite_a but_o where_o be_v the_o difference_n between_o infinite_a and_o his_o own_o term_n unlimited_a do_v not_o the_o one_o signify_v without_o bound_n as_o the_o other_o without_o end_n and_o the_o argument_n will_v equal_o hold_v with_o the_o one_o term_n or_o the_o other_o therefore_o i_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o change_v those_o term_n nor_o do_v i_o injure_v he_o in_o use_v they_o but_o that_o all_o infinite_n be_v equal_a be_v as_o evident_a as_o that_o there_o be_v a_o inequality_n between_o finite_a and_o infinite_a for_o if_o one_o infinite_a be_v less_o than_o another_o there_o must_v be_v some_o bind_v or_o end_n of_o that_o infinite_a which_o will_v be_v to_o make_v it_o finite_a wherefore_o for_o two_o infinite_n to_o emane_n from_o one_o be_v to_o say_v twice_o as_o much_o emanes_n from_o a_o be_v as_o the_o be_v be_v nay_o if_o the_o son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v both_o but_o one_o infinite_a to_o suppose_v they_o to_o emane_n from_o but_o one_o other_o infinite_a be_v to_o suppose_v the_o whole_a infinite_a to_o emane_n from_o itself_o but_o if_o their_o nature_n each_o of_o they_o be_v as_o true_o divine_a and_o infinite_a as_o that_o of_o the_o father_n they_o must_v each_o of_o they_o be_v equal_a to_o he_o and_o consequent_o can_v emane_n from_o he_o can_v two_o sun_n which_o be_v a_o more_o proper_a simile_n for_o equal_a nature_n than_o the_o sun_n and_o the_o ray_n emane_n from_o one_o sun_n will_v it_o not_o be_v to_o suppose_v twice_o as_o much_o to_o emane_n from_o the_o sun_n as_o be_v in_o it_o the_o defender_n upon_o better_a thought_n though_o i_o do_v not_o make_v use_n of_o his_o phrase_n thus_o reply_n be_v he_o please_v to_o take_v notice_n that_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o this_o acute_a argue_v except_o he_o mean_v by_o infinite_a substance_n substance_n of_o a_o infinite_a bigness_n he_o may_v as_o well_o have_v say_v to_o be_v and_o not_o to_o be_v be_v a_o contradiction_n only_o in_o substance_n of_o infinite_a bigness_n for_o the_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o of_o what_o nature_n or_o sort_n soever_o the_o substance_n be_v provide_v they_o be_v capable_a of_o emaning_n because_o the_o argument_n do_v not_o depend_v upon_o a_o be_v have_v bigness_n or_o quantity_n but_o upon_o the_o equality_n of_o being_n that_o emane_n from_o one_o another_o for_o let_v a_o equal_a number_n which_o have_v neither_o matter_n nor_o bulk_n emane_n from_o a_o equal_a do_v not_o the_o whole_a number_n emane_n from_o itself_o so_o subtract_v a_o hour_n from_o a_o hour_n and_o see_v what_o become_v of_o the_o first_o hour_n so_o that_o if_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o father_n emanes_a from_o itself_o a_o infinite_a and_o boundless_a nature_n it_o must_v whole_o exhaust_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o father_n which_o be_v but_o boundless_a and_o infinite_a but_o to_o suppose_v two_o such_o nature_n to_o emane_n from_o he_o be_v to_o suppose_v twice_o as_o much_o to_o emane_n as_o the_o father_n nature_n be_v it_o be_v as_o i_o observe_v sect._n 59_o divide_v one_o infinite_a substance_n into_o three_o infinite_a part_n to_o which_o he_o reply_v how_o do_v our_o author_n already_o run_v taplash_n but_o i_o will_v not_o therefore_o forbear_v reply_v and_o i_o answer_v no_o doubt_v it_o be_v a_o horrid_a contradiction_n so_o to_o affirm_v but_o how_o rank_n do_v this_o smell_n of_o the_o gross_a thing_n call_v body_n his_o mind_n run_v altogether_o upon_o material_a substance_n which_o alone_o i_o say_v have_v part_n to_o be_v divide_v into_o then_o he_o go_v on_o to_o demonstrate_v that_o a_o infinite_a spiritual_a substance_n can_v be_v divide_v into_o infinite_a spiritual_a part_n which_o be_v the_o absurdity_n or_o if_o he_o please_v the_o taplash_n i_o be_o condemn_v as_o the_o immediate_a consequence_n of_o his_o hypothesis_n for_o what_o difference_n can_v we_o perceive_v between_o one_o infinite_a nature_n emane_v out_o of_o itself_o two_o infinite_a nature_n by_o which_o it_o so_o far_o part_n with_o they_o as_o they_o become_v two_o distinct_a and_o diverse_a nature_n from_o it_o as_o distinct_a and_o different_a as_o so_o many_o man_n or_o angel_n and_o one_o infinite_a nature_n divide_v into_o three_o infinite_a part_n and_o by_o our_o author_n leave_n we_o not_o only_o attribute_v part_n to_o matter_n but_o we_o be_v force_v to_o do_v so_o to_o every_o thing_n whether_o finite_a or_o infinite_a we_o can_v in_o our_o mind_n add_v to_o and_o abstract_n from_o which_o we_o can_v but_o conceive_v as_o part_n so_o we_o say_v that_o number_n and_o duration_n and_o space_n though_o infinite_a have_v part_n and_o the_o sober_a enquirer_n in_o his_o view_n of_o the_o consideration_n pag._n 92._o own_v that_o conceptible_a part_n in_o the_o deity_n no_o man_n can_v avoid_v and_o if_o neither_o the_o whole_a divine_a nature_n nor_o a_o part_n of_o it_o emane_v from_o itself_o it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n to_o our_o idea_n that_o any_o thing_n shall_v emane_n from_o it_o what_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o those_o term_n will_v be_v so_o in_o any_o other_o but_o to_o gratify_v our_o author_n as_o much_o as_o possible_a we_o will_v express_v his_o doctrine_n in_o the_o soft_a term_n we_o can_v viz._n one_o self-existent_a eternal_a and_o necessary_a nature_n which_o alone_o be_v first_o in_o nature_n not_o
in_o time_n whilst_o it_o remain_v such_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o any_o alteration_n whatever_o become_v necessary_o and_o eternal_o three_o eternal_a and_o necessary_a nature_n two_o of_o which_o be_v not_a selfexistent_a or_o in_o other_o word_n one_o immutable_a god_n necessary_o and_o eternal_o become_v three_o god_n of_o the_o same_o nature_n but_o not_o three_o self-existent_a god_n which_o though_o they_o be_v monstrous_a contradiction_n in_o themselves_o and_o to_o our_o conception_n of_o but_o one_o god_n yet_o our_o author_n be_v so_o happy_a as_o to_o be_v able_a to_o tell_v we_o how_o this_o be_v do_v namely_o by_o emanation_n whereby_o two_o of_o these_o nature_n issue_v forth_o as_o he_o term_v it_o from_o the_o self-existent_a nature_n and_o though_o each_o of_o these_o nature_n be_v equal_a to_o the_o nature_n from_o whence_o they_o emane_v yet_o the_o emane_a nature_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o the_o least_o diminution_n though_o one_o will_v think_v to_o have_v two_o nature_n to_o emane_n from_o one_o single_a nature_n so_o as_o to_o be_v distinct_a and_o different_a in_o number_n from_o it_o must_v be_v a_o diminution_n to_o that_o nature_n since_o it_o have_v two_o nature_n by_o emane_v they_o from_o itself_o less_o than_o it_o have_v but_o if_o the_o nature_n of_o god_n be_v indivisible_a and_o consequent_o no_o part_n nor_o any_o thing_n of_o it_o can_v emane_n nothing_o can_v be_v more_o evident_a but_o that_o all_o other_o nature_n because_o not_o self-existent_a must_v be_v produce_v from_o nothing_o but_o he_o say_v pag._n 13._o there_o be_v not_o a_o creature_n that_o generate_v another_o of_o the_o same_o kind_n but_o may_v be_v proper_o say_v to_o communicate_v its_o own_o nature_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o forego_v not_o its_o own_o individual_a nature_n nor_o any_o part_n of_o it_o but_o by_o his_o leave_n every_o generate_a creature_n do_v part_n with_o some_o of_o its_o substance_n which_o he_o may_v call_v nature_n whereof_o the_o foetus_fw-la be_v form_v and_o which_o by_o accession_n of_o nourishment_n grow_v at_o length_n to_o be_v a_o nature_n or_o substance_n equal_a to_o its_o parent_n but_o in_o the_o divine_a generation_n the_o son_n and_o spirit_n have_v their_o whole_a being_n and_o nature_n from_o the_o father_n nature_n and_o not_o by_o accession_n from_o without_o but_o all_o at_o once_o and_o from_o all_o eternity_n so_o that_o for_o the_o father_n to_o communicate_v his_o nature_n to_o each_o of_o they_o who_o nature_n be_v equal_a to_o he_o will_v be_v double_o to_o annihilate_v himself_o for_o a_o nature_n to_o multiply_v its_o kind_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o defect_n and_o weakness_n in_o that_o kind_n of_o nature_n for_o the_o same_o reason_n that_o make_v it_o capable_a of_o propagate_a make_v it_o subject_a to_o corruption_n and_o dissolution_n because_o it_o suppose_v it_o divisible_a and_o subject_a to_o augmentation_n and_o diminution_n which_o being_n in_o their_o nature_n immortal_a be_v not_o and_o therefore_o what_o can_v be_v more_o absurd_a than_o to_o argue_v from_o being_n that_n be_v divisible_a and_o for_o that_o reason_n alone_o capable_a of_o generation_n or_o emanation_n to_o being_n that_n be_v indivisible_a and_o consequent_o not_o capable_a of_o have_v emanation_n flow_v from_o their_o substance_n i_o know_v none_o in_o his_o sense_n ever_o suppose_v so_o gross_a a_o thing_n of_o finite_a spirit_n as_o propagate_a their_o kind_a however_o some_o man_n take_v the_o liberty_n not_o only_o to_o suppose_v it_o of_o god_n himself_o but_o that_o he_o act_v therein_o necessary_o as_o inanimate_a being_n do_v nay_o they_o suppose_v it_o to_o be_v one_o of_o the_o high_a and_o most_o essential_a perfection_n of_o his_o nature_n which_o i_o conceive_v to_o be_v most_o absurd_a as_o well_o as_o a_o most_o high_a affront_n to_o the_o sole_a infinite_a majesty_n of_o god_n and_o it_o carry_v this_o in_o it_o that_o it_o necessary_o infer_v not_o only_o a_o plurality_n but_o a_o infinity_o of_o god_n for_o if_o god_n do_v not_o constant_o and_o necessary_o multiply_v divine_a nature_n he_o have_v lose_v a_o perfection_n which_o they_o say_v be_v essential_a and_o necessary_a to_o his_o nature_n which_o change_n can_v happen_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o god_n but_o if_o as_o the_o sun_n successive_o emit_v a_o innumerable_a company_n of_o new_a ray_n he_o do_v from_o eternity_n to_o eternity_n produce_v new_a nature_n they_o must_v needs_o be_v infinite_a in_o number_n but_o if_o he_o say_v god_n be_v eternal_o emane_v into_o existence_n the_o son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v true_a that_o they_o be_v eternal_o beget_v or_o emane_v into_o actual_a be_v that_o they_o never_o will_v be_v so_o though_o the_o father_n be_v in_o do_v it_o from_o eternity_n to_o eternity_n by_o a_o continue_a successive_a generate_a but_o how_o can_v they_o that_o be_v as_o he_o say_v boundless_a and_o infinite_a from_o eternity_n be_v capable_a of_o any_o far_a production_n and_o every_o new_a or_o far_a production_n must_v be_v as_o infinite_a and_o boundless_a as_o each_o of_o they_o have_v thus_o full_o as_o i_o suppose_v show_v the_o impossibility_n of_o the_o father_n issue_v forth_o emanation_n from_o his_o own_o nature_n i_o shall_v be_v the_o short_a in_o my_o remark_n upon_o his_o answer_n i_o say_v sect._n 59_o upon_o supposition_n that_o the_o son_n and_o spirit_n be_v necessary_a emanation_n i_o can_v see_v how_o they_o owe_v their_o origin_n more_o to_o the_o father_n than_o the_o father_n to_o they_o since_o they_o be_v all_o three_o of_o a_o substance_n which_o be_v self-existent_a which_o be_v he_o say_v very_o surprise_v and_o as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v that_o the_o root_n no_o less_o owe_v its_o origin_n to_o the_o tree_n or_o the_o ray_n to_o the_o sun_n than_o vice_n versâ_fw-la as_o to_o his_o simile_n from_o the_o sun_n i_o have_v sufficient_o speak_v to_o it_o already_o as_o to_o that_o about_o the_o root_n and_o the_o tree_n it_o be_v evident_a not_o to_o mention_v that_o the_o tree_n can_v owe_v its_o origin_n to_o the_o root_n because_o it_o be_v part_n of_o the_o tree_n that_o the_o trunk_n and_o branch_n do_v not_o owe_v their_o origin_n to_o the_o root_n but_o be_v all_o visible_o in_o the_o seed_n which_o by_o nourishment_n receive_v from_o without_o do_v equal_o increase_v to_o their_o design_a bulk_n but_o to_o make_v it_o any_o way_n parallel_v suppose_v a_o self-existent_a root_n to_o emane_n necessary_o from_o itself_o without_o any_o new_a matter_n add_v to_o it_o two_o trunk_n each_o of_o which_o be_v as_o big_a as_o the_o emane_a root_n will_v not_o the_o substance_n of_o all_o three_o be_v self-existent_a since_o they_o be_v all_o three_o of_o the_o selfsame_a self-existent_a substance_n and_o consequent_o one_o can_v no_o more_o owe_v its_o origin_n to_o another_o than_o the_o selfsame_a substance_n can_v owe_v its_o origin_n to_o itself_o in_o the_o 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