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be_v the_o substance_n of_o each_o person_n but_o each_o person_n have_v not_o its_o own_o distinct_a substance_n reply_n a_o strange_a riddle_n and_o invention_n that_o each_o person_n have_v distinct_o its_o own_o substance_n and_o yet_o not_o its_o own_o distinct_a substance_n what_o scripture_n have_v he_o for_o this_o critic_n and_o nice_a distinction_n how_o be_v a_o person_n then_o a_o individual_a substance_n of_o a_o rational_a nature_n that_o be_v not_o uphold_v by_o another_o if_o it_o have_v not_o its_o own_o distinct_a substance_n whilst_o yet_o it_o have_v distinct_o its_o own_o substance_n but_o the_o divine_a substance_n of_o the_o deity_n of_o the_o father_n the_o word_n and_o spirit_n be_v but_o one_o as_o often_o have_v be_v grant_v so_o than_o the_o holy_a ghost_n though_o confess_v to_o be_v a_o substance_n pag._n 101._o yet_o i_o say_v not_o a_o personal_a substance_n distinct_a from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n as_o there_o be_v ignorant_o assert_v but_o 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l._n last_o r._n invent_v p._n 18._o l._n 25._o for_o on_o and_o r._n a_o end_n p._n 19_o l._n 1._o r._n amount_n l._n 13._o r._n be_v towards_o p._n 21._o l._n 27._o r._n it_o be_v in_o christ._n p._n 27._o l._n 6._o r._n deserve_v p._n 39_o l._n 35._o for_o whether_o r._n whither_o p._n 45._o at_o l._n 26_o 27._o the_o reader_n may_v add_v or_o understand_v as_o give_v by_o divine_a inspiration_n not_o man_n fallable_n judgement_n and_o mistake_v upon_o they_o p._n 49._o l._n 17._o be_v 〈…〉_z for_o and_o r._n or_o p._n 55._o l._n 18._o deal_n which_o p._n 73._o l._n 7._o in_o the_o apendix_n r._n principal_a p._n 74._o l._n 33._o for_o t._n v_n r._n t._n d._n p._n 76._o l._n 16._o deal_n three_o p._n 77._o l._n 12._o for_o 1_o r._n 5._o p._n 81._o l._n 16._o deal_n and._n sometime_o such_o defect_n have_v escape_v as_o misplace_v have_v for_o have_v do_v for_o do_v be_v for_o be_v be_v for_o be_v it_o for_o they_o say_v for_o say_v and_o so_o on_o the_o contrary_a such_o be_v not_o material_a fault_n to_o any_o but_o such_o as_o be_v critical_a who_o do_v not_o sober_o weigh_v the_o intent_n of_o the_o matter_n a_o appendix_n wherein_o be_v some_o of_o the_o manifest_a contradiction_n of_o thomas_n vincent_n william_n maddox_n thomas_n danson_n and_o john_n owen_n both_o to_o themselves_o and_o one_o against_o another_o with_o brief_a animadversion_n or_o observation_n upon_o their_o contradiction_n which_o be_v about_o principle_n matter_n 1._o touch_v their_o distinction_n of_o three_o person_n m._n i_o be_o sure_a from_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v of_o a_o infinite_a nature_n be_v three_o person_n three_z increated_a person_n subsistence_n or_o manner_n of_o being_n pag._n 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o contrad_n t.u._n in_o contradiction_n to_o his_o brother_n maddox_n say_v infiniteness_n be_v not_o applicable_a to_o the_o subsistence_n it_o can_v be_v proper_o ascribe_v to_o the_o personality_n though_o there_o be_v three_o distinct_a personality_n to_o which_o infiniteness_n be_v not_o ascribe_v pag._n 45._o obs._n see_v here_o be_v as_o much_o inconsistency_n between_o these_o two_o as_o between_o infinite_a and_o finite_a one_o make_v their_o be_v of_o a_o infinite_a nature_n a_o proof_n or_o reason_n of_o their_o distinct_a personality_n or_o subsistency_n and_o the_o other_o say_v infiniteness_n be_v not_o applicable_a nor_o proper_o ascribe_v to_o they_o what_o gross_a contradiction_n and_o blasphemous_a stuff_n be_v here_o w._n m._n each_o of_o these_o three_o person_n be_v god_n his_o subsistence_n be_v his_o manner_n of_o be_v in_o the_o relative_n property_n of_o the_o father_n and_o so_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n pag._n 18_o 19_o contr._n t.u._n it_o be_v improper_a to_o say_v that_o either_o of_o the_o person_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o personality_n or_o subsistence_n be_v finite_a or_o infinite_a pag._n 46._o obs._n this_o latter_a contradiction_n than_o will_v have_v neither_o father_n son_n nor_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v either_o finite_a or_o infinite_a what_o gross_a nonsense_n and_o apparent_a contradiction_n be_v these_o contr._n t.u._n christ_n be_v the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n by_o eternal_a generation_n pag._n 36_o 47._o obs._n he_o be_v now_o the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n before_o not_o infinite_a but_o again_o neither_o finite_a nor_o infinite_a in_o his_o personality_n and_o yet_o the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n what_o mad_a distract_a blasphemous_a work_n be_v this_o these_o man_n do_v make_v with_o their_o vain_a babble_n t.u._n they_o be_v not_o three_o substance_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o three_o person_n p._n 13._o contr._n t._n d._n the_o usual_a definition_n of_o person_n be_v a_o individual_a substance_n of_o a_o rational_a nature_n which_o be_v neither_o the_o part_n of_o another_o nor_o uphold_v by_o another_o which_o aquinus_n defend_v sum_n par._n 1.9.29_o art_n 2._o a_o man_n we_o call_v a_o person_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 1_o 2._o obs._n see_v again_o how_o apparent_o these_o two_o brethren_n contradict_v one_o another_o one_o say_v a_o person_n be_v a_o individual_a substance_n etc._n etc._n yet_o the_o other_o say_v they_o be_v not_o three_o substance_n therefore_o three_o person_n whereas_o it_o follow_v therefore_o not_o three_o person_n contr._n j.o._n we_o must_v acknowledge_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v a_o substance_n a_o person_n god_n yet_o distinct_a from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n pag._n 101._o a_o personal_a subsistence_n pag._n 114._o obs._n where_o note_n that_o this_o doctor_n contradict_v t.u._n his_o say_n they_o be_v not_o three_o substance_n as_o also_o that_o he_o seem_v to_o make_v both_o substance_n person_n and_o subsistence_n to_o intend_v all_o one_o thing_n contrary_a to_o t._n v._o again_o but_o these_o word_n a_o person_n god_n yet_o distinct_a from_o the_o father_n and_o son_n i_o can_v make_v sense_n of_o though_o they_o be_v from_o a_o doctor_n for_o god_n be_v not_o a_o person_n distinct_a from_o himself_o w.m._n i_o call_v they_o three_o he_o be_v to_o try_v if_o you_o will_v own_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n we_o call_v they_o person_n or_o he_o be_v in_o respect_n of_o their_o manner_n of_o subsistence_n pag._n 18_o 20._o contrad_n t._n v._o the_o word_n person_n can_v proper_o be_v attribute_v to_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n because_o they_o do_v not_o subsist_v in_o a_o several_a and_o distinct_a nature_n of_o the_o same_o kind_n for_o if_o each_o of_o they_o have_v a_o several_a and_o not_o one_o individual_a nature_n than_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v only_o three_o person_n but_o three_o god_n synopsis_n pag._n 3._o obs._n it_o be_v very_o evident_a here_o that_o thomas_n danson_n have_v contradict_v both_o himself_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o brethren_n see_v the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n can_v proper_o be_v call_v person_n w.m._n say_v his_o compare_v the_o three_o increated_a person_n to_o three_o apostle_n paul_n peter_n and_o john_n be_v blasphemy_n pag._n 20._o contr._n t._n d._n a_o man_n we_o call_v a_o person_n a_o person_n be_v entire_a of_o itself_o pag._n 2._o if_o peter_n james_n and_o john_n each_o person_n be_v man_n etc._n etc._n take_v man_n here_o not_o for_o a_o person_n but_o the_o nature_n as_o we_o do_v god_n be_v and_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o we_o mean_v no_o more_o that_o the_o name_n man_n may_v be_v attribute_v to_o peter_n james_n and_o john_n pag._n 12._o david_n be_v a_o man_n and_o solomon_n be_v a_o man_n they_o two_o agree_v in_o a_o three_o thing_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 14_o 15._o obs._n what_o less_o do_v their_o own_o distinction_n and_o comparison_n concern_v they_o amount_v to_o than_o to_o three_o apostle_n or_o man_n that_o be_v each_o entire_a of_o himself_o as_o a_o person_n be_v t._n d._n say_v who_o have_v apparent_o spoil_v his_o own_o and_o his_o brethren_n cause_n t.u._n the_o trinity_n of_o person_n the_o first_o in_o the_o second_o and_o the_o second_o in_o the_o first_o and_o both_o in_o the_o three_o pag._n 25._o contr._n t._n d._n a_o person_n note_v some_o one_o endue_v with_o reason_n and_o understanding_n which_o be_v several_a and_o distinct_a by_o himself_o from_o another_o p._n 2._o and_o in_o the_o dispute_n they_o be_v three_o distinct_a and_o separate_a person_n in_o the_o deity_n a_o person_n be_v entire_a of_o itself_o etc._n etc._n obs._n if_o the_o father_n the_o word_n and_o the_o spirit_n be_v in_o each_o other_o and_o so_o inseparable_a than_o not_o three_o distinct_a nor_o separate_v person_n neither_o can_v one_o be_v several_a by_o himself_o from_o another_o t.u._n that_o the_o father_n word_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v three_o person_n pag._n 13._o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o scripture_n god_n have_v reveal_v it_o in_o his_o word_n the_o scripture_n have_v reveal_v that_o there_o be_v three_o distinct_a person_n in_o one_o 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of_o itself_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 1_o 2._o concern_v which_o i_o query_n first_o whether_o the_o father_n the_o word_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v three_o several_a and_o singular_a thing_n that_o subsist_v each_o by_o himself_o each_o one_o from_o another_o yea_o or_o nay_o second_o whether_o a_o man_n be_v a_o person_n be_v a_o competent_a instance_n for_o proof_n of_o his_o maker_n be_v three_o several_a person_n and_o whether_o a_o man_n subsist_v by_o himself_o three_o whether_o christ_n be_v several_a and_o distinct_a by_o himself_o from_o god_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n several_a and_o distinct_a from_o both_o if_o yes_o where_o or_o in_o what_o place_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n or_o out_o of_o it_o be_v the_o one_o entire_a and_o sever_v from_o the_o other_o and_o how_o far_o distant_a one_o from_o another_o four_o and_o if_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n do_v
and_o his_o own_o notion_n and_o conception_n which_o be_v not_o ground_v on_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v not_o have_v our_o faith_n impose_v upon_o by_o they_o as_o to_o accept_v of_o his_o humane_a conception_n and_o notion_n which_o can_v reach_v the_o nature_n of_o god_n for_o divine_a verity_n and_o how_o say_v t._n d._n that_o infiniteness_n be_v a_o property_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n agree_v to_o each_o person_n subsist_v in_o that_o nature_n contrary_a to_o his_o worthy_a master_n vincent_n saying_n that_o infiniteness_n be_v not_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o personality_n but_o such_o like_a confusion_n and_o conrradiction_n we_o have_v enough_o of_o from_o they_o and_o indeed_o such_o nonsensical_a stuff_n as_o be_v in_o both_o their_o pamphlet_n i_o have_v seldom_o meet_v withal_o as_o one_o while_n t._n d._n say_v we_o do_v not_o affirm_v the_o person_n in_o the_o godhead_n to_o be_v finite_a but_o infinite_a another_o while_n t._n v._o say_v infiniteness_n be_v not_o ascribe_v to_o they_o 14._o another_o while_n t._n d._n say_v pag._n 14._o that_o they_o be_v one_o among_o themselves_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o that_o wherein_o they_o agree_v not_o simple_o what_o kind_n of_o oneness_n or_o agreement_n do_v he_o reckon_v be_v in_o the_o deity_n if_o it_o be_v not_o simple_o be_v there_o ever_o such_o darkness_n and_o confusion_n utter_v and_o what_o blind_a sophistry_n and_o silly_a logic_n and_o babble_n do_v these_o man_n use_v and_o put_v upon_o the_o immortal_a god_n who_o with_o all_o their_o invention_n airy_a notion_n and_o vain_a conception_n they_o can_v never_o reach_v the_o knowledge_n of_o neither_o will_n nor_o can_v their_o heathenish_a philosophy_n term_n of_o aristotle_n nor_o apostate_n christian_n and_o papist_n demonstrate_v or_o discover_v the_o knowledge_n of_o either_o father_n 16._o word_n or_o spirit_n to_o any_o people_n that_o want_v the_o knowledge_n thereof_o but_o make_v they_o more_o dark_a and_o ignorant_a 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substance_n of_o thing_n hope_v for_o it_o be_v not_o person_n of_o thing_n hope_v for_o the_o same_o word_n that_o be_v for_o substance_n in_o that_o be_v hebr._n chap._n 2._o verse_n 3._o where_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n who_o be_v the_o brightness_n of_o his_o glory_n and_o the_o express_a image_n of_o his_o substance_n beside_o what_o ever_o author_n or_o father_n so_o call_v do_v put_v name_n distinction_n and_o term_n upon_o the_o godhead_n which_o be_v either_o improper_a or_o unscriptural_a we_o must_v believe_v the_o scripture_n rather_o than_o they_o and_o do_v they_o count_v all_o justin_n martyr_n write_v one_o hundred_o &_o fifty_o year_n after_o christ_n to_o be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o scripture_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n or_o may_v not_o probable_o justin_n bring_v in_o some_o of_o his_o philosophy_n which_o be_v not_o scripture_n and_o we_o do_v not_o read_v in_o the_o scripture_n either_o of_o three_o distinct_a 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a_o plenary_a satisfaction_n make_v as_o in_o the_o sense_n and_o notion_n some_o of_o they_o have_v etc._n etc._n and_o though_o he_o know_v some_o worthy_a person_n do_v deny_v w._n p_n affirmative_a yet_o he_o can_v join_v with_o they_o therein_o he_o say_v also_o god_n be_v free_a in_o his_o determination_n what_o attribute_v he_o will_v manifest_v and_o in_o what_o degree_n and_o manner_n and_o that_o between_o justice_z and_o mercy_n and_o their_o effect_n and_o all_o of_o his_o mere_a will_n intervene_v etc._n etc._n by_o all_o which_o in_o a_o great_a measure_n he_o have_v confess_v to_o what_o w._n p._n have_v write_v in_o that_o case_n though_o in_o contradiction_n to_o his_o brother_n vincent_n as_o be_v evident_a but_o where_o he_o speak_v of_o vindictive_a justice_n that_o god_n may_v only_o have_v manifest_v when_o man_n fall_v as_o he_o do_v upon_o the_o reprobate_a angel_n or_o devil_n etc._n etc._n now_o i_o query_n then_o be_v this_o vindictive_a justice_n that_o which_o christ_n undergo_v at_o god_n hand_n and_o satisfy_v according_a to_o their_o doctrine_n if_o they_o say_v it_o be_v where_o do_v the_o scripture_n say_v so_o or_o that_o god_n inflict_v the_o same_o revengeful_a justice_n as_o i_o think_v they_o mean_v upon_o christ_n that_o he_o do_v upon_o the_o reprobate_a angel_n or_o devil_n and_o then_o make_v this_o the_o mean_n and_o manner_n of_o full_a satisfaction_n for_o mankind_n let_v we_o have_v plain_a scripture_n for_o this_o doctrine_n be_v god_n love_n to_o man_n purchase_v by_o such_o revenge_n upon_o his_o innocent_a son_n as_o he_o lay_v upon_o reprobate_a angel_n or_o devil_n or_o be_v it_o not_o rather_o blasphemous_a to_o suppose_v that_o christ_n can_v ever_o be_v so_o far_o out_o of_o god_n favour_n as_o to_o construe_v his_o suffering_n to_o the_o height_n of_o revenge_n as_o go_v against_o reprobate_a angel_n and_o devil_n and_o do_v not_o this_o also_o accord_n with_o t._n v._o his_o doctrine_n whereas_o chrit_n be_v the_o belove_a of_o the_o father_n even_o his_o only_o beget_v the_o son_n of_o his_o love_n in_o who_o his_o soul_n delight_v and_o be_v always_o well_o please_v both_o in_o his_o work_n and_o suffering_n both_o in_o his_o life_n and_o death_n for_o sinner_n but_o angry_a with_o the_o wicked_a such_o as_o persecute_v he_o and_o crucify_v he_o afresh_o unto_o themselves_o as_o he_o be_v also_o crucify_v in_o spiritual_a sodom_n and_o egypt_n such_o adversary_n god_n will_v be_v avenge_v of_o but_o his_o pleasure_n shall_v prosper_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o anoint_v seed_n christ_n but_o these_o thing_n t._n d._n his_o weak_a judgement_n as_o he_o confess_v it_o to_o be_v pag._n 18._o can_v reach_v and_o indeed_o in_o much_o of_o his_o discourse_n about_o this_o matter_n he_o have_v talk_v more_o like_o a_o lawyer_n then_o a_o divine_a and_o have_v bring_v several_a similitude_n which_o will_v not_o hold_v in_o matter_n of_o such_o high_a concernment_n but_o i_o shall_v not_o need_n much_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o his_o dark_a kind_n of_o reason_v in_o this_o particular_a which_o proceed_v but_o from_o his_o weak_a judgemnt_n and_o private_a conception_n since_o the_o matter_n be_v answer_v elsewhere_o and_o the_o extent_n of_o he_o and_o their_o principle_n therein_o be_v further_o manifest_v and_o handle_v about_o his_o and_o their_o doctrine_n of_o impute_v righteousness_n and_o his_o argument_n for_o sin_n and_o imperfection_n in_o all_o term_n of_o life_n yet_o a_o little_a to_o some_o particular_n i_o may_v observe_v by_o the_o way_n of_o this_o point_n after_o he_o say_v he_o shall_v give_v we_o his_o sense_n confess_v that_o satisfaction_n be_v not_o a_o scripture_n phrase_n pag._n 19_o however_o we_o will_v choose_v scripture_n phrase_n rather_o then_o t._n d_n weak_a judgement_n and_o conception_n therein_o have_v
demonstration_n then_o clear_a scripture_n sure_o whilst_o they_o can_v clear_v it_o and_o their_o distinction_n to_o themselves_o they_o be_v not_o like_a to_o clear_v they_o unto_o other_o but_o instead_o of_o scripture_n proof_n and_o demonstration_n we_o must_v either_o aquiesce_v with_o what_o their_o humane_a understanding_n can_v produce_v from_o aquinas_n wotton_n and_o aristotle_n etc._n etc._n or_o else_o we_o be_v like_a to_o be_v most_o bitter_o rail_v against_o by_o these_o our_o opposer_n t.u._n the_o three_o holies_n isa._n 6.1_o signify_v the_o three_o person_n contradiction_n the_o lord_n of_o host_n the_o one_o god_n pag._n 33._o contr._n j._n o._n contradict_v t._n v._n pag._n 45._o where_o he_o say_v that_o of_o isa._n 6.1_o 2._o three_o holy_a holy_a holy_a be_v the_o lord_n of_o host_n the_o whole_a earth_n be_v full_a of_o his_o glory_n apply_v unto_o the_o son_n joh._n 12.41_o 42._o obs._n how_o palpable_o one_o contradict_v another_o one_o say_v the_o three_o holye_n signify_v three_o person_n the_o other_o viz._n j.o._n say_v they_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o son_n who_o be_v but_o one._n this_o doctor_n owen_n shall_v correct_v his_o brother_n vincent_n t.u._n the_o son_n be_v eternal_a this_o generation_n must_v be_v eternal_a the_o personal_a property_n of_o the_o son_n be_v to_o be_v beget_v pag._n 36._o contr._n t._n v._o they_o be_v three_o distinct_a person_n from_o their_o distinct_a personal_a act_n contradiction_n again_o infiniteness_n be_v not_o applicable_a to_o the_o three_o distinct_a personallity_n pag._n 45._o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v god_n be_v infinite_a in_o power_n in_o wisdom_n and_o goodness_n and_o eternal_a pag._n 30._o obs._n here_o manifest_a contradiction_n to_o himself_o show_v itself_o as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v that_o either_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v eternal_a and_o yet_o not_o infinite_a or_o else_o that_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v eternal_a be_v not_o a_o person_n distinct_a from_o god_n if_o a_o person_n be_v not_o infinite_a but_o yet_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v infinite_a in_o power_n wisdom_n goodness_n etc._n etc._n how_o ever_o these_o can_v be_v reconcile_v i_o leave_v to_o the_o ingenious_a to_o judge_v t._n v._o the_o father_n word_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v three_o subsistence_n pag._n 13.43_o not_o three_o substance_n pag._n 13._o they_o be_v three_o distinct_a subsistent_n pag._n 27._o a_o person_n be_v one_o individual_a subsistent_n rather_o t.d._n pag._n 2._o obs._n here_o they_o be_v now_o put_v to_o it_o what_o to_o call_v they_o be_v not_o three_o substance_n as_o t._n v._o say_v they_o call_v they_o three_o subsistence_n but_o now_o it_o must_v be_v subsistent_n rather_o but_o then_o in_o contradiction_n to_o both_o doctor_n owen_n say_v contradict_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v a_o substance_n a_o personal_a subsistence_n what_o differ_v now_o between_o substance_n and_o subsistence_n t._n d._n what_o the_o scripture_n have_v reveal_v to_o we_o concern_v that_o distinction_n in_o the_o godhead_n can_v be_v apprehend_v under_o any_o other_o notion_n or_o resemblance_n which_o therefore_o we_o attribute_v to_o god_n pag._n 3._o we_o know_v not_o what_o to_o call_v those_o three_o but_o person_n contr._n t.d._n of_o the_o father_n word_n and_o spirit_n etc._n etc._n from_o 1_o joh._n 1.7_o now_o all_o witness_n proper_o so_o call_v be_v person_n pag._n 5._o then_o these_o witness_n must_v needs_o be_v distinct_a pag._n 7._o obs._n why_o be_v not_o that_o scripture_n produce_v all_o this_o while_n if_o there_o be_v such_o as_o reveal_v your_o distinction_n and_o notion_n of_o person_n in_o god_n and_o why_o do_v you_o not_o know_v what_o to_o call_v those_o three_o in_o heaven_n but_o person_n when_o t.d._n know_v how_o to_o call_v they_o witness_n what_o ignorance_n and_o contradiction_n be_v here_o t._n v._o from_o matth._n 3.16_o 17._o herein_o be_v a_o distinction_n of_o all_o the_o three_o person_n the_o son_n clothe_v in_o flesh_n the_o spirit_n in_o the_o shape_n of_o a_o dove_n the_o father_n in_o the_o voice_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 34._o contr._n w.m._n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v of_o a_o infinite_a nature_n be_v three_o person_n coessential_a coequal_a coeternal_a pag._n 29._o contr._n t.u._n the_o son_n be_v eternal_a his_o generation_n must_v be_v eternal_a the_o personal_a property_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o proceed_v from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n pag._n 36._o obs._n quest._n but_o be_v christ_n be_v clothe_v with_o flesh_n or_o the_o spirit_n appear_v in_o the_o shape_n of_o a_o dove_n or_o be_v send_v from_o eternity_n be_v these_o pertinent_a proof_n of_o their_o distinct_a personality_n which_o be_v reckon_v coeternal_a etc._n etc._n and_o whither_o or_o to_o who_o be_v the_o spirit_n send_v from_o eternity_n t.u._n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n which_o w.p._n do_v deny_v pag._n 32._o his_o denial_n of_o the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n be_v plain_a pag._n 28._o contr._n t.u._n the_o unity_n of_o the_o godhead_n be_v not_o deny_v by_o the_o adversary_n i_o have_v to_o do_v withal_o pag._n 28._o obs._n so_o here_o the_o same_o person_n that_o be_v accuse_v for_o deny_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o these_o latter_a word_n clear_v as_o not_o deny_v that_o unity_n of_o the_o godhead_n and_o to_o be_v sure_a he_o do_v confess_v the_o father_n the_o word_n and_o the_o spirit_n to_o be_v one_o be_v one_o divine_a substance_n and_o so_o one_o god_n t._n v._o the_o son_n be_v god_n coessential_a coequal_a coeternal_a with_o the_o father_n christ_n be_v infinite_a in_o power_n wisdom_n and_o goodness_n eternal_a pag._n 29_o 30._o t._n v._o in_o regard_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n the_o jew_n speak_v truth_n joh._n 8.57_o thou_o be_v not_o yet_o fifty_o year_n old_a as_o he_o be_v a_o son_n of_o abraham_n and_o bear_v many_o generation_n after_o he_o pag._n 31._o obs._n quest._n and_o be_v not_o he_o a_o person_n as_o he_o be_v a_o son_n 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