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A96610 The bloody tenent yet more bloody: by Mr Cottons endevour to wash it white in the blood of the lambe; of whose precious blood, spilt in the blood of his servants; and of the blood of millions spilt in fromer and later wars for conscience sake, that most bloody tenent of presecution for cause of conscience, upon a second tryal, is found now more apparently and more notoriously guilty. In this rejoynder to Mr Cotton, are principally I. The nature of persecution, II. The power of the civill sword in spirituals examined; III. The Parliaments permission of dissenting consciences justified. Also (as a testimony to Mr Clarks narrative) is added a letter to Mr Endicot governor of the Massachusets in N.E. By R. Williams of Providence in New-England. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683. 1652 (1652) Wing W2760; Thomason E661_6; ESTC R206778 290,081 379

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shall_v the_o church_n tolerate_v he_o herein_o and_o he_o conclude_v let_v the_o like_a power_n be_v grant_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o deal_v faithful_o with_o the_o church_n in_o the_o notorious_a transgression_n of_o the_o first_o table_n as_o be_v grant_v to_o the_o church_n to_o deal_v with_o the_o magistrate_n in_o the_o notorious_a transgression_n of_o the_o second_o table_n and_o the_o controversy_n be_v end_v truth_n this_o answer_n and_o instance_n of_o m_o r_o cotton_n carry_v a_o seem_a beauty_n with_o it_o but_o bring_v it_o to_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o testament_n of_o christ_n jesus_n and_o it_o will_v appear_v to_o be_v but_o a_o vanish_v colour_n for_o there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n the_o sin_n of_o each_o church-member_n magistrate_n whether_o against_o the_o first_o or_o second_o table_n be_v proper_a to_o the_o cognizance_n and_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o incestuous_a person_n be_v punish_v by_o christ_n 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doctrine_n etc._n etc._n truth_n if_o