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A20769 Certaine treatises of the late reverend and learned divine, Mr Iohn Downe, rector of the church of Instow in Devonshire, Bachelour of Divinity, and sometimes fellow of Emanuell Colledge in Cambridge. Published at the instance of his friends; Selections Downe, John, 1570?-1631.; Hakewill, George, 1578-1649. 1633 (1633) STC 7152; ESTC S122294 394,392 677

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