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A43112 Animadversions upon a late quibling libel from the Hartford Quakers, stiled, A testimony for the man Christ Jesus demonstrating that it is not the same true and real man Christ Jesus that they give testimony unto, but another false and feigned Jesus, or, A fresh and fuller draught of the same antidote, against the poyson presented in the whores golden cup / by Will. Haworth. Haworth, William. 1676 (1676) Wing H1194; ESTC R19450 28,927 32

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nature with that which he had before his Resurrection for it appears evidently that was not such a Manhood why then if it be not the same in kind and Nature it cannot be the same in Number 3. The third thing as to the matter of Charge viz. That this same Manhood is now in Heaven a place remote so circumscribed there that it is not here on Earth this they openly deny in so many words Pag. 6. But his conclusion i. e. is denyed by the connexion it appears that therefore Jesus Christ is not here on Earth as he is Man but as to his Manhood only in Heaven a place remote from us and in many other places of the Book you shall find the like They do clearly affirm that Jesus Christ is present on Earth in and with his Saints as to his soul The Papists say in their monstrous opinion of Transubstantiation that the natural Humane body of Christ can be and is in an hundred nay a thousand several places at once So these that the soul of Jesus is in innumerable places at once Thus every whit of the matter of Charge stands good against them and I have brought them in as witnesses against themselves whilst they did pretend to the weak people to vindicate themselves Now do not they that deny these three things mentioned plainly deny Jesus Nazareth to be the Messiah which they say Pag. 4. is the other part of the Charge if Jesus Christ hath not the self same true and real Manhood which he took of the Virgin and which dwelt here on Earth at that place called Nazareth then is not Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah according to the Quakers For his name was called Jesus as he was born of the Virgin Mat. 1.21 And she shall bring forth as Son and thou shalt call his Name Jesus and that adjunct of Nazareth is given because of his habitation in those parts Mat. 2.23 And he came and dwelt in a City called Nazareth that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Prophets He shall be called a Nazarene But these people now it 's plain the mask being pull'd off deny that Manhood that was taken of the Virgin and dwelt at Nazareth in that they do suppose it so changed that it 's turned into an Immense infinite Being a Deity which that Manhood was not Let them but remember that Scripture John 8.24 Except you believe that I am he ye shall die in your sins and if they write again fairly take off these things that I have briefly brought against them Let us now hear throughout the Book what they have to say for themselves that they are not guilty of denying the Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven The first thing produced is W. Pens confession at Barbakin Pag. 4. W. P. speaks in the name of the Quakers thus we do believe the Man Christ Jesus to be glorified in Heaven we do believe the holy Manhood to be in Heavenly Glory they add see how far the Quakers are from denying the true and real Manhood of Christ in Heaven Some that are not acquainted with their way of speaking may think this sufficient but others that have been used to them cannot till W. Pen doth describe what he means by the Man Christ Jesus and what by the Manhood whether it is such a Manhood as hath a Humane soul and body as its essential parts For G. Fox in his great Mystery Pag. 286. hath these words the Man may speak Christ in the Male and in the Female W. P. then in the name of all the Quakers may mean such a man is Jesus Christ as is in every Male and Female Preacher that is nothing but the light within Fox again hath another passage Pag. 71. Christ's nature is not bumane which is earthly for that is the first Adam's This man Christ that W. P. confesseth in the name of all the Quakers may be such as hath no Humane nature such a man as never had a nature that was of an Earthly substance such a man as came not of Adam's race and line but we always thought and believed that the Manhood was such which is Christs nature as properly as his Divine nature Again nothing more obvious in our discourses with them than that Heaven is within them I have heard it in discourse with them What doth all this brave sound of words in this Confession at Barbican come to why this is the sum of it when he saith we believe the Man Christ to be glorified in Heaven and the holy Manhood to be in heavenly glory viz. that the Light within being hearkened to and obeyed is lifted up and exalted and glorified in the heart of man I know it to be true that Pen hath written it in the Folio put forth by him and Whitehead viz. that the Light in that body that was taken of the Virgin is the Christ whereas we know and assert that it 's neither the Divine nature alone nor Humane alone but both in union that is the Christ of God I will give one testimony out of Smith's Primer Pag. 8. They that are false Teachers preach Christ without and bid the people believe in him as he is in Heaven above Now lest some Reconciler as W. P. or any other should say that their Brother Smith meant that whoever preached Christ without only were false Teachers not but that the preaching of Christ without will consist with the preaching of Christ within hear his own words again Pag. 9. Child This is a great difference in their Doctrine speaking still of the true and false Teachers for one to preach Christ without and another preacheth him within Fat Yes it doth make a great difference and bath no more fellowship together then the East with the West See how far they are from denying the true and real Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven he that will be decieved let him be deceived by this line you may measure all the rest that followeth The next thing to take off the Charge is their own confession in the Book Pag. 5. They write We farther add and confess that the same man Christ that suffered and was put to death in the flesh and was raised from the dead by the mighty Power of God ascended into Heaven Gods dwelling place ascended both as to change of place and state of glory Is not here a very full and plain confession Would not you take the Hareford Quakers more Orthodox than others of them would not one hope that our writing against their Errour doth inlighten them teach them convince them and that they are coming near to some good settlement in the good old Truths and that they will at length become Christians but it is so with some that have accustomed themselves to ly and cheat they are always suspected by them that know them so truly is it with this People they have altogether lost their credit and reputation with many as in this matter in that we
ANIMADVERSIONS Upon a late Quibling LIBEL From the Hartford Quakers STILED A Testimony for the Man Christ Jesus Demonstrating That it is not the same true and real Man Christ Jesus that they give Testimony unto but another false and feigned Jesus Or A fresh and fuller draught of the same Antidote against the Poyson presented in the Whores Golden cup. By WILL. HAWORTH Rev. 2.2 Thou hast tryed them that say they are Apostles and are not and hast found them lyars Mat. 7.15 Beware of false Prophets that come unto you in sheeps cloathing 2 Cor. 11.13 14. For such are false Apostles deceitful workers transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ For no marvel for Satan himself is transformed into an Angel of light Rom. 16.18 And by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple Printed in the seventh Month. 1676. Animadversions Upon a late Quibling Libel from the Hartford Quakers THere is a Book come to my hand with this Title viz. A Testimony for the Man Christ Jesus a Title never before as I know prefixed to any of the Quakers Books by whom it appears this was written By that time I had read it over I found that to be true which I suspected viz. That the Wine did not answer the Bush the Matter the Title They have only dealt herein as the Enemy at Sea which sets up the English Flag thereby to deceive and take advantage I looked for some particular name but found none who the proper Father of the Child should be who can tell We are left to guess who the Father is by the double tongue Quibling Language Critical Wit in catching his Adversary in seeming contradictions and inconsistencies They say Pag. 3. In the beginning my Pamphlet consists of matter of charge aggravated with reviling and Answers to Objections of my own framing to render the Quakers infamous Answ If I cannot prove the charge true x I confess I have wronged them in saying that they are no Christians Seducers but if it be true that they deny Jesus of Nazareth having heard it out of the mouth of a Prophet of their own with three witnesses to the same and have read it in their own Books and you shall have further proof of it before we have finished this and indeed there is enough in this late Book that speaks the same thing as will appear anon then I have said too little of them and need not fear the threatnings they produce that Revilers shall not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven as being no way guilty If they will see their errour and Recant I will take off my Charge and my Reviling as they call it otherwise it is but what the Apostle Paul's example against Seducers and false Teachers doth warrant me in As to the Objections that they say are of my framing I find all of them save one in this their own Book brought in against this Truth as stated by me concerning the Manhood of Christ in Heaven which shall be notified to you in the progress that one which is not there produced by them viz. Flesh and blood cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven not any that ever reasoned with the Quakers about this subject or the resurrection of the same body but hath heard it from them see then the ingenuity of these People in the entrance saying that I have framed Objections of my own to render the Quakers odious But the great and material thing which I hasten to is that I charge the Quakers with denying the same numerical true and real Manhood of Jesus to be now in Heaven a place remote from the Earth I do I confess thus charge them now mark it diligently and bear it in your minds as you read along Pag. 3. l. 12. They utterly deny the matter charged Let us examine what the matter is contained in these words and phrases taken in their true Grammatical sense and construction viz. The same numerical true and real Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven a place remote from the Earth 1. That Jesus Christ hath now a true and real Manhood consisting of two Essential distinct parts a Humane Soul and Body 2. That it is the same Numerical Manhood not only the same in kind and nature but the very self same one in number that was born of the Virgin crucified on the Cross laid in the Sepulcher raised again 3. That this self same true Manhood is now in Heaven a place remote from the Earth so circumscribed there that it is not here upon Earth We heartily without any equivocation consent to these three Heads contained in those words The Hartford Quakers in their late Book seem to own the same and would not be accounted guilty of the charge but how shall they be tryed no otherwise then by their confession under their own hand in that Book 1. That Jesus Christ hath now a true and real Manhood These Hartford Quakers deny while in words they own it 1. That cannot be a true and real Manhood that hath not a true and real Humane soul but according to the Hartford Quakers Jesus Christ hath not a Humane soul that soul that is in a thousand distinct several places at one and the same time cannot be a Humane soul for so it is immense and infinite but according to these Quakers the soul of Christ is in innumerable places at once for that say it is in every Saint on Earth Pag. 6. 2. That cannot be a true and real Manhood that is not the object of Sense that can no way be seen by the bodily eye but these Hartford Quakers affirm Pag. 10. 11. That the body of Christ now in Heaven is not the object of sense now what a body must that be that cannot by any means be either seen felt or heard 3. That cannot be a true and real Manhood that can penetrate Wooden doors and Stone walls This is to make it so rare thin subtile and spirituous that the very Essence and nature of a body is destroyed Air and Light that are the most subtile of bodies cannot pierce doors and walls but must enter by some crannyes or pores but the Quakers at Hartford do suppose that the body of Christ was so changed that it came into the Disciples through the doors or walls else why bring they that Scripture against me John 10.19 4. That cannot be a true and real Manhood that hath not a Humane shape figure and from but the Hartford Quakers deny this and dispute against it Pag. 11 12. 2. The second thing that is matter of the charge viz. That they deny the self same Numerical Manhood Thus I prove it If Christs Manhood as they say in the late Book cannot be seen with the bodily eye though God do never so strengthen it if so immense that part of it can be in every Saint so subtile and spirituous that it can penetrate doors and Stone walls of an house it cannot be the same for kind and
doth Christ say the work of the Comforter should be upon his sending of him John 15.26 He shall testify of me and John 16.14 He shall glorify me i. e. in the hearts of men for be shall receive of mine and shew it unto you Now if that Spirit which at present you boast of doth not this work viz. Enlighten your understandings aright in the truth of the Gospel though you may find a power as you often speak acting of you if this Spirit do not testify of the Christ of God begetting high thoughts of his Person Righteousness instructing your souls in his things his Death Resurrection Intercession his Priesthood in Heaven which you never talk of though it should have so much power in you as thereby you should be caught up and carried to Azotus though thereby you could as they say of Simon Magus fly in the Air yet it is not the Spirit of Christ Jesus the Comforter 1 Pet. 2.7 2 Cor. 13.14 2 Cor. 11.4 If Christ be not precious to you you are unbelievers I wish it might be considered there is no communion of the Spirit where the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ it not sweet to us where ever there is another Gospel and Jesus there is another spirit who ever hath not the Son hath not the Father how then can they have the Spirit No man speaking by the Spirit of God called Jesus accursed 1 Cor. 12.3 Be not deceived if this Gospel be hid the heart and life whereof consists in the knowledge of this point of Justification It is the Gospel of Righteousness it manifests the Righteousness without the Law Rom. 3.21 therein is the Righteousness of God revealed from Faith to Faith if this be hid though you may be very confident is is hid to them that are lost 2 Cor. 4.3 the God of this World having blinded their eyes O that you would remember what the Apostle said to the Galatians who thought they had as much of the Spirits Righteousness as the Quakers being corrupted in their judgments in this very matter yet had not cast off their mentioning of Christ but allowing him a place in their Religion Gal. 3.1 Gal. 5.4 who hath bewitched you and in another place ye are fallen from Grace and its a great convincing word Rom. 9.31 Israel which followed after the Law of Righteousness did not attain to the Law of Righteousness yet were as confident as you but I shall be despised for this my love in debating this matter with you and I doubt you will call this as Pag. 15. you do monstrous and distracted Doctrine The instances that I gave against Christopher Tayler to prove that we are not justified by works done in the Spirit are reckoned Pag. 14. viz. Abrahams works Davids works Paul's and Isaiahs works all done in the Spirit but not a word of answer to them no I calmly challenge them all to answer to them Only they ask a Question Is it good Doctrine to say that Paul when a Christian counted his spiritual obedience loss and dung for Christ Answ Yes very good sound blessed and comfortable Doctrine received by Millions of Saints in Heaven and Earth add but that which you ought for of that I speak viz. in the point of Justification in the same way are you to understand that of Isaiah Isa 64.6 all our Righteousnesses are as filthy rags i. e. as to justify us in Gods sight Pag. 15. they repeat the Question but slily addeth this to it viz. and that as a Christain he must suffer the loss of this i. e. his spiritual obedience so as not to have it in his heart O the creeping Serpent to insinuate as if I taught the people such Doctrine Answ Yes he was to have it still in his heart but not to plead it with God for his Justification Phil. 3.9 not having my own Righteousness which is of the Law c. But how can I make that out for which they quarrel me here Pag. 15. That all the Righteousness that all the Saints have within them or without them is but the Righteousness of the Law Answ It is not difficult otherwise the Law of God is not a perfect Rule of Righteousness but that must be grante Ergo it requires all we do and more then any can do not only outward duty but an inward spiritual upright frame of heart yea the Image of God to be compleat and perfect in us then my Argument holds good we are not justified by any Righteousness of ours done in the Spirit for the Scripture is peremptory in it by the deeds of the Law shall no flesh be justified in his fight Rom. 3.20 They produce two Scriptures here to prove Justification by the works of the Spirit in us First Rom. 8.2 The Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the Law of sin and death Rom. 8.4 That the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us I have opened both these places in my Book against Crook and Bailie I am of that mind that they both speak as to our Justification of the Righteousness of Christs Person so they are nothing to their purpose if they will in their next plainly and openly say from the first Scripture that the Spirits work in us is the matter of our Justification and that the Law is fulfilled in our own persons for our acceptation from the second Scripture I promise them a fuller answer in the mean while we are of this mind that we are not justified by any works done by us in and by the Spirit yet we freely acknowledge that it is Regeneration makes us meet for the Kingdom but not in a way of Merit that is only by the blood-shedding of Jesus Christ but only disposeth us for Heaven without it none shall see the Lord Regeneration is to be distinguished from Justification as the Cause from the Effect Justification the cause of Regeneration if God did not forgive us our sins for the Merit of Christ he would not renew our nature we confess again that the Deity perfects all good in us and for us but them the Humanity is in union with it and acts with it and they must not be put asunder it was the Humanity that was the Offering and Sacrifice he offered himself by the eternal Spirit Heb. 9.14 The Flesh profiteth nothing i. e. alone it is the Spirit that quickneth John 6.63 yet the Flesh of Christ is the Organ and Instrument in by and with which Christ performs all his Mediatory works of Redemption and these two Natures are but one Person and whatever was done by the Spirit in the hearts of any before Christs manifestation in Flesh it was done in reference to and for the Merit of his Incarnation so then in the last place and then we have not left a hoof of an exception behind when I pray that the Spirit would settle strengthen preserve I believe that the Spirit is given
though in another Horizon only it did not then appear it was not published if I say of a Child in the womb it is not yet come into the world the Quakers will say it is not strictly true is not the Mothers womb in the world only it stayeth there and is not come through the place of the breaking forth of Children John Crook had his Answer first written in his mind before it was in his Paper it was not then strictly true but that there was an Answer before the Answer was written as well as before it was published so witty are these people we know not how to speak the plain Truth as to matter of fact to them But I had not best talk too loud for if I should it may occasion the publication of it and that they say will not be for my credit and that if it comes out I shall have need of a better Antidote this is their Conclusion Here is the same Insinuation in the clause of this Book as was in the end of Christopher Tayler's Postcript he said had more against me then he would write these say that the answer to my Book will not be for my credit when it is published why are they still so like the Jesuits going about if possible to take away our good name and credit from us But it may be they mean only because it will be such a full and clear Refutation of my Book Truth is strong and bold that I fear not try it as soon as you will or dare But they give me fair warning to provide a better Antidote here is a tacit Concession then that there will be a stronger poyson than usual in the future Answer however I have but one and the same and there needs no other Antidote it is sufficient against all the deadly poyson inchantments divinations errors of the Socinians Quakers Ranters Mugletonians Papists in this day viz. That soveraign anointing spoken of in 1 Joh. 26 27. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you but the anointing which you have received of him abideth in you and ye need not that any man teach you but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things and is truth and is no lie and even as it hath taught you ye shall abide in him Now see what mischief these men have done to the Christian Religion how sacrilegiously they have robbed the Curch of many sweet and comfortable Truths that the Saints in all ages have lived by Faith upon as their life and treasure in all their failings weaknesses and imperfections tryals temptations afflictions desertions for if Christ be not the same real true Man in Heaven that he was here upon Earth which the Quakers have here denied while in some wo●ds they confess it then it follows according to what I writ in my last Book which I desire may be perused again 1. There is no Intercessor no high Priest to appear in the presence of God for us for according to his real Humane Nature as well as Divine he is Mediator 2. Then is there no entring for us into Heaven for the way thither was consecrated for us through the vail of his Flesh that was his Manhood by that he went to prepare a place 3. Then is there no Spirit to be expected nor any gift thereof for the shedding of it forth was the fruit of his Ascention as Man 4. He is not now Lord and King for according to his Manhood he was exalted above all Principalities and Powers 5. Then shall Christ never come again personally to be Judge of quick and dead for as Man he is to judge the World Acts 17.31 He will judge the world in righteousness by that Man c. This Truth is openly denied by the Quakers and no wonder 6. Then hath Christ no fellow-feeling with us in our straits for it 's only as to his Manhood that he was made like to us and tempted as we ase he is now neither a merciful nor faithful high Priest if his Manhood doth not remain Heb. 2.17 And lastly we cannot then come unto him with any boldness in prayer but shall be amazed and confounded in the thoughts of the glorious Majesty of God if He hath not rendred himself familiar to us by taking our Humane Nature upon him and still retaining it in union with his Deity upon this it is that we are bid to come boldly to the Throne of Grace Heb. 4. ult Because we have an high Priest that cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities but was in all things tempted as we are FINIS