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A18690 A mirrour of Popish subtilties discouering sundry wretched and miserable euasions and shifts which a secret cauilling Papist in the behalfe of one Paul Spence priest, yet liuing and lately prisoner in the castle of Worcester, hath gathered out of Sanders, Bellarmine, and others, for the auoyding and discrediting of sundrie allegations of scriptures and fathers, against the doctrine of the Church of Rome, concerning sacraments, the sacrifice of the masse, transubstantiation, iustification, &c. Written by Rob. Abbot, minister of the word of God in the citie of Worcester. The contents see in the next page after the preface to the reader. Perused and allowed. Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618. 1594 (1594) STC 52; ESTC S108344 245,389 257

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breadhood_n as_o it_o please_v his_o wisedom-hood_n full_a untoward_o and_o unhansome_o to_o conceive_v so_o that_o it_o may_v be_v by_o this_o dream_n of_o he_o that_o gelasius_n think_v that_o christ_n consist_v of_o three_o nature_n the_o godhead_n the_o manhood_n and_o the_o breadhood_n because_o it_o may_v be_v that_o gelasius_n understand_v substance_n for_o substance_n indeed_o he_o have_v well_o deserve_v for_o this_o his_o learned_a reason_n to_o be_v personal_o unite_v unto_o a_o cloak-bag_n this_o idle_a fancy_n of_o he_o arise_v hereof_o that_o he_o understand_v no_o other_o presence_n but_o real_a and_o bodily_a nor_o other_o unite_n but_o only_o personal_a but_o of_o presence_n christ_n himself_o speak_v as_o touch_v himself_o 20._o himself_o mat._n 18._o 20._o wheresoever_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v together_o in_o my_o name_n there_o be_o i_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o yet_o we_o know_v he_o be_v not_o bodily_a present_n unto_o all_o such_o nay_o as_o touch_v 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