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though_o we_o be_v ignorant_a thereof_o or_o that_o you_o can_v hereby_o elude_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n we_o bring_v to_o 〈◊〉_d they_o teach_v the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v the_o shape_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o wine_n contain_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o 〈◊〉_d lord_n this_o i_o say_v be_v a_o silly_a and_o miserable_a shift_n for_o though_o species_n signify_v nature_n &_o kind_n and_o this_o signification_n be_v much_o use_v special_o in_o logic_n yet_o no_o 〈◊〉_d can_v deny_v but_o species_n do_v also_o proper_o signify_v 〈◊〉_d outward_a semblant_n show_v and_o shape_n and_o that_o this_o signification_n be_v very_o vulgar_a and_o to_o know_v when_o species_n do_v signify_v shape_n and_o not_o kind_a this_o rule_n be_v infallible_a that_o still_o it_o be_v take_v for_o shape_n when_o it_o be_v oppose_v unto_o nature_n and_o invisible_a essence_n when_o s._n paul_n exhorte_n that_o not_o only_a man_n have_v their_o inward_a conscience_n pure_a towards_o god_n but_o also_o 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not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d word_n species_n but_o effigy_n say_v panis_n non_fw-fr effigy_n sed_fw-la 〈◊〉_d mutatus_fw-la etc._n etc._n bread_n change_v not_o in_o the_o effigy_n 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o nature_n be_v by_o the_o omnipotency_n of_o his_o word_n 〈◊〉_d his_o flesh_n now_o though_o we_o shall_v grant_v your_o 〈◊〉_d
individual_a thing_n when_o soul_n and_o body_n come_v to_o be_v unite_v by_o this_o union_n be_v produce_v a_o three_o substance_n to_o wit_n a_o man_n compose_v of_o soul_n and_o body_n when_o two_o water_n that_o be_v sever_v come_v to_o join_v together_o there_o arise_v one_o three_o water_n wherein_o the_o two_o lesser_a water_n be_v include_v as_o part_n but_o father_n and_o son_n the_o one_o in_o london_n the_o other_o at_o constantinople_n do_v not_o compose_v a_o three_o individual_a nature_n constant_a of_o they_o both_o wherein_o they_o both_o be_v contain_v as_o be_v most_o evident_a ergo_fw-la it_o be_v ridiculous_a to_o affirm_v that_o the_o father_n in_o london_n be_v true_o and_o real_o unite_v with_o his_o son_n in_o constantinople_n final_o put_v case_n there_o be_v true_a and_o real_a unity_n betwixt_o father_n and_o son_n so_o that_o the_o son_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v one_o with_o his_o father_n true_o and_o proper_o in_o respect_n of_o kind_n or_o specifical_a 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homini_fw-la manet_fw-la infensus_fw-la ut_fw-la meritâ—_n
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of_o wine_n the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n be_v alone_o able_a to_o show_v &_o work_v this_o signification_n this_o sacrament_n do_v also_o signify_v the_o passion_n and_o death_n of_o our_o saviour_n which_o death_n and_o passion_n be_v show_v and_o represent_v by_o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n sacrament_n kind_n the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 479._o that_o both_o kind_n do_v more_o lively_o represent_v christ_n passion_n than_o one_o only_a answer_n what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o purpose_n to_o prove_v the_o sacrament_n in_o one_o kind_n substantial_o imperfect_a baptism_n by_o plunge_v the_o child_n into_o water_n represent_v christ_n death_n and_o resurrection_n more_o lively_o they_o baptism_n by_o sprinkle_v yet_o be_v baptism_n by_o aspersion_n a_o full_a and_o entire_a sacrament_n for_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o form_n of_o wine_n only_o we_o have_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o remember_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v in_o his_o 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minister_n 472._o prove_v communion_n in_o both_o kind_n to_o be_v of_o great_a profit_n because_o it_o be_v
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