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A03334 The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered. Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 13454; ESTC S104083 165,029 276

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may_v yield_v the_o buckler_n unto_o he_o 5._o but_o yet_o he_o have_v fail_v exceed_o in_o two_o point_n first_o in_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o place_n where_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o unite_v personal_o unto_o that_o god_n who_o be_v every_o where_o and_o that_o it_o do_v subsist_v every_o where_n etc._n etc._n for_o though_o the_o divine_a person_n wherein_o the_o humane_a nature_n subsi_v be_v every_o where_o yet_o the_o humane_a nature_n subsi_v therein_o finite_o and_o in_o one_o determinate_a place_n the_o union_n itself_o be_v a_o create_a thing_n you_o may_v take_v a_o familiar_a example_n to_o illustrate_v this_o point_n for_o your_o more_o exact_a comprehension_n thereof_o humanity_n tota_fw-la in_o tato_fw-la &_o tota_fw-la in_o qualibe_n parte_fw-la so_o the_o whole_a divinity_n of_o christ_n assume_v the_o humanity_n the_o soul_n of_o man_n be_v every_o where_o in_o the_o body_n and_o be_v not_o divide_v in_o quantity_n but_o have_v different_a 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the_o word_n of_o consecration_n this_o be_v my_o body_n transub_v 1._o transub_v this_o be_v my_o blood_n there_o be_v the_o true_a real_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n contain_v under_o the_o similitude_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n for_o benedictious_a etiam_fw-la natura_fw-la mutatur_fw-la by_o the_o benediction_n the_o nature_n itself_o be_v chandged_a as_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n can_v make_v something_o of_o nothing_o consub_v de_fw-fr mysterijs_fw-la init_fw-la cap._n 9_o 2._o consub_v so_o it_o be_v able_a to_o turn_v one_o thing_n into_o a_o other_o as_o s._n ambrose_n do_v perspicuous_o and_o irrefragable_o deliver_v unto_o we_o touch_v this_o sacred_a transelementation_n 9_o the_o lutheran_n teach_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n there_o be_v the_o true_a real_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n together_o with_o or_o under_o the_o bread_n more_o sir_n th._n more_o and_o wine_n a_o good_a child_n be_v luther_n that_o will_v not_o eat_v his_o flesh_n without_o bread_n 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