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A46640 Verus Patroclus, or, The weapons of Quakerism, the weakness of Quakerism being a discourse, wherein the choicest arguments for their chief tenets are enervat, and their best defences annihilat : several abominations, not heretofore so directly discovered, unmasked : with a digression explicative of the doctrine anent the necessity of the spirits operation, and an appendix, vindicating, Rom. 9. from the depravations of an Arminian / by William Jamison. Jameson, William, fl. 1689-1720. 1689 (1689) Wing J445; ESTC R2476 154,054 299

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all blessed for ever so with equal Impiety they bring down the glorious God levelling him with the dust and subject that most pure and Impassible beeing to the weakest frailties of Mankind Alledging that Christ weeped as God and not as man over Ierusalem but that they may want all ground of Complaint Let us hear themselves who in the principles of the Priests of Scotland pag 33. say It was asked of him viz. Henry Foreside of a fore ordained number to destruction and for what Christ wept over Ierusalem He answered as he was Human he mourned and his god-head decreed them to hell this is a lying Doctrine of the devil for after many of them of Ierusalem came to be converted as ye may read in Acts 2. And many of the Priests came to be obedient to the Faith for all being gone astray both Iews and Gentiles Rom 2.9 concluded under sin the pure the Eternal tendered over them who had stopped their ears and closed their eyes to that which was pure of God in them that they might have come to that which is pure and have been gathered under Christs wings Mat. 23 37. Who is pure and so have been converted and healed and have heard with their ears and seen with their Eyes And as for the word Humane that is not Scripture Language it speaketh not that Language CHAP. V. Of Christ and of his Benefits THE Quakers in words commonly acknowledge that Christ is God and Man and account it a wrong when they are accused of the denyal thereof But beside these two Natures they really maintain a third viz. a Spiritual and Heavenly nature in Christ which they call the Heavenly man Christ Jesus which heavenly man they say did exist before the incarnation of Christ Jesus and assert that on the Flesh and Blood of this man the Church in all Ages did feed For George Keith in his way cast up pag 38 93 96. Sayeth Christ as Man was and is before all the first and the last Id pag 90. The Man Christ influenceth all Men by his life and is in them and pag 93. The word made flesh created all things and the word only is is not properly the Christ. And George Keith in that Book contendeth at large that Christ before his Incarnation was as properly the Christ as he is now And in the same book pag. 94 he sayeth Christ as man came down from Heaven Idem ibid. Christs Flesh and Blood came down from Heaven pag. 94 95 Thus Christ hath Spiritual Flesh and Blood pag 95. Of his Spiritual flesh and blood did the Saints of old eat drink pag 97.98 He saith The Man Christ is to be understood prov 8.23 I was set up from everlasting from the beginning or ever the earth was And Ps. 110.1 2 3. and pag 99 100 108. It was this life of Christ as Man that was pressed as a Cart c. Amos 2.13 pag 100.108 109. Thus saith he Apostats crucifie to themselves again the Son of God. Heb. 6.6 pag. 100. Thus hath Christ been crucified by the wicked from the beginning Ibid. Christ the Heavenly man lived in Abraham and Moses pag 102. Christ was true and real Man before he was born of Mary pag 103. The word was made flesh from the beginning and dwelt in us pag 104. According to his Heavenly Nature even as Man He Christ was the son of God. pag. 123. The Man Christ is every where That is his Soul is extended into all in his divine seed and body which is his Heavenly Flesh and Blood. From all which beside other most horrid absurdities and blasphemies which follow upon this their Doctrine this is a clear consequent That Christ hath three Natures To this they answer Quak. Confir p. 33 That it will no more follow from their Doctrine that Christ hath three natures than it will follow from ours who assert that Christ assumed into Vnion with the Divine nature a Body and a Soul. But this answer is easily repelled for a Body a Soul considered both together make up but one humane nature Whereas according to their Doctrine he was Man before his incarnation and again man by incarnation seing every incarnation bringeth a man to the World Which incarnation they have not yet denyed at least in words And therefore Christ hath two entire humane Natures and yet these strictly conjoyned together in one man. Which doctrine maketh our blessed Lord a down-right Monster 2. The Quakers doctrine as it rendereth the Humanitie of Christ altogether Monstruous so it quite annihilateth and destroyeth his Divinity For Christopher Atkinson a known Quaker in a book of his entituled The Sword of the Lord in oposition to the sixth of the propositions which Philip Nye Thomas Godwine and Sidrah Simson drew up at the appointment of Cromwel whereby he might regulate himself in the tolleration of Sectaries viz. Christ is God said Hear Sotish minds your imagined God beyond the Stars and your carnal Christ which ye would make appear through your Heathnish Philosophy is utterly denyed and testified against by the light In these words the God-head of Christ is so evidently denyed ye● and his manhood too that the Quakers are able to put no Commentarie or glosse upon them which is their usual custom whereby to varnish and make any thing speak what they will And therefore to the Students of Aberdeen who Quak. Canvass pag. 82. Have objected this passage unto them they answer Quak. Conf. pag 36 that they cannot light upon Aitkinsons book But it is not to be believed that such active and bussie Spirits for the promotion of Quakerisme as Robert Barclay and George Keith are men of so great acquaintance and correspondence with the Quakers in England could not obtain the sight of a book which certainly is frequent enough there But it mattereth not much what they say for they stick not to deny passages that are verbatim in their own books Of which kind of dealing take one place of many which might easily be given Will Pen Sand Found pag 26 sayeth that Christ fulfilled the Law only as our pattern or example And yet Rea● against Rail pag 78 counteth his adversary Hicks a forger for repeating these words and stif●y denyeth that there is such a passage there saying I am very certain that the word only was not there See Hicks Dial. 3. pag 74 75 76. Where you shall find a large bundle of the like impudent and inexcusable lies They say also they can prove that Christopher Aitkinson was not a Quaker which they may easily say but they ought to have proved it not said it only otherwise these words serve only to testifie their dissatisfaction with the ingenuous plainness of Aitkinson in which he unma●keth and ●ayeth open to the World what the rest of the Quakers involve in Clouds of strange and mysterious Language equivocal and hardly intelligible terms being the only covert that they can find under which to shreud their abominable
although his Adversaries Exposition cannot stand but upon a supposition denyed by the Quaker it is little matter for we know the whole Gospel cannot stand but upon many suppositions denyed and cryed out against by that blasphemous party And here pag 51. he Alledgeth that he acknowledgeth the fall of man more fully than his adversary doth because according to his adversary fallen man retained some Relicts of the Image of God by vertue whereof he can do something really good whereas on the other hand according to the Quakers Doctrine man by the ●all was wholly degenerate retaining nothing of the Image of God in whom albeit there remained a Seed of righteousness yet no otherwayes than as a naked seed in barren ground by vertue of which he could do nothing until visited by a new Visitation which he received by vertue of Christ as Mediator Ans. In the judgement of all men who are not so effronted as to give such inconsistances for a sufficient Refutation of their Adversaries It will be counted a compleat contradiction to say that fallen man hath no Reliques of the Image of God and yet notwithstanding hath a Seed of Righteousness in him Seing that Righteousness is one of the chief parts of the Image of God. Eph. 4.24 But the truth is there is a Mystery latent under this doctrine which we must here discover The Mystery is this the Quakers have no other Christ than this that was left in Adam and remaineth in man in his fallen condition to which they give many great names as Light L●fe Measure of God God himself and among others most frequently the Seed for the more full manifestation of which take these following passages 1. Naylor's love to the lost pag. 32. Christ is the Election and the Elect Seed and George Foxs Great myst pag. 24. the promise of God is to the seed that hath been loaded as a Cart with sheaves by the S●nner which seed is the hope of Christians or that which was loaded as a Cart under sheaves George Keith in his way c●st up pag 99 100 108. Ex●oneth it to be Christ or the life of Christ and in his Immed Revel pag 44 45 46. Sayeth when God created Man he put his Image Christ the express Image of himself in man he breathed into him the breath of Life he lived in God and Christ the light of men was his life and lived in him then the Lamb was not sl●in Christ the Lamb the life of man. But when man sinned So the Lamb came to be slain in him from the Foundation of the world that holy meek nature the Lambs nature was slain in him the bowels of the fathers Love stirred in compassion to the work of his own hands that of the Pure creation in man which though shut up in death yet it remained and perished not as to its being it did not become a nothing but remained a beeing and this is the lost which God sent his son into the world to seek and to save not to seek and save the old Adam that birth of the Serpents begetting but to destroy it for it is not capable of Gods Salvation but that which Christ came to save is that of God which proceeded from him the seed of God in man the seed of Abraham whereof Abrams old decayed body as good as dead and Sarahs barren womb was a Type Moreover by this Light of God for all is one they understand Christ or God himself as shall afterward be more fully made out by several express Assertions of the Quakers Hence we may see that the Doctrine of this man is most damnable who acknowledgeth no other Christ but the smal and dark Reliques of the Image of God in mans soul and that his Hypocrisie and dissimulation is unparalellably great and hateful in that even while he pretends to aggredge the fall of man most he then exalteth man even in his lapsed Condition beyond which it is hardly possible to elevat the nature of man for from what is here quoted and shal be more largely afterward alledged out of their writings it is evident that they beleive or at least would perswade others to beleive that Christ has a Personal union with every Son and Daughter of Adam To all this he addeth a most blasphemous and absurd Intimation that this Seed which to him is alone with Christ or God stands in need of a new Visitation of Christ to raise it up and make it active Also here because his Adversary saith from Rom. 7.14 and 1 Cor. 3.1 that the Apostle and all Beleivers are in a certain respect carnal he thinks he hath gotten him in a notable absurdity Saying his Divinity will run thus the Devil and all unregenerate men are in a certain respect spitual and the Apostle and all regenerate men are in a certain respect Carnal But if there be any absurdity in saying that the Apostle and all Beleivers are in a certain respect Carnal it will light upon the Scriptures according to which his Adversary spake and thus the Quakers covertly pursue their Design of wounding the Scriptures through the sides of their Adversaries and altho he shall answer that the Apostle Rom 7. did speak of another in the person of himself I care not seing to all the fifteen Arguments whereby Mr Broun proved the Apostle to be there speaking of himself and not of another the Quaker thinketh it enough to say He giveth us a Preachment upon this place without a syllable more for Solution of these arguments As for these words that the Devils are in a certain respect Spiritual they are none of his Adversaries However the devil may be called Spiritual in respect of his nature seing whatever is a Spirit may be called Spiritual as well as what is a Body may be called Corporeal Hence it is Evident that the Quaker's pretended Absurdities and Blasphemies which he would fix upon his Adversary resolve into meer fictitious Ho●goblines fit only to fright Children 16ly Seventhly If Fallen Man retain no knowledge of God no Principles of common Honesty and Morality then there is no difference between a Man and a Brute neither can it be told in what the wisdom of the Wise Gentiles of whom the Apostle speaketh 1 Cor. 2. who notwithstanding could not perceive the things of God until they were again revealed consisted but the latter is false in both its parts therefore the first Robert Barclay Vindic. pag. 52. answereth that the Wisdom of these Gentiles did consist in the wise and prudent Management of worldly Affairs for it is not yet proved sayeth he that it is necessarily united to a Knowledge of God and things Spiritual since it is said of some Beasts that they have something of this such as Bees and Ants. And that notwithstanding Man differeth from a Brute in many things as in the knowledge of numbers Mathematical and Mechanical Demonstrations Is the Knowledge of such natural Truths that two and three make five