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A44785 Darknesse and ignorance Expelled by the light shining forth, and the appearance of the day. In answer to a book called, Innocents no saints. Published by one Edward Dodd, wherein he hath laboured to prove tythes lawfull, and tithing priests and hirelings to be the ministers of the word, and the masse-house the church; and calls idolatry civility, and heathenish complements courtesie, and hath perverted many Scriptures. His deceit laid open, his vindication made void, and his arguments confounded, and Truth laid open in all these particulars, for the sake of the upright in heart, who rejoyces in Truths prosperity. By one of the lambs followers, who makes warre against the heart of the dragon, and against the rear of the beast. F.H. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1659 (1659) Wing H3156; ESTC R215412 21,256 31

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DARKNESSE AND IGNORANCE Expelled by the Light shining forth and the appearance of the Day In answer to a Book called Innocents no SAINTS Published by one Edward Dodd wherein he hath laboured to prove Tythes lawfull and Tithing Priests and Hirelings to be the Ministers of the Word and the Masse-house the Church and calls Idolatry Civility and Heathenish complements courtesie and hath perverted many Scriptures His Deceit laid open his Vindication made void and his Argument confounded and Truth laid open in all these particulars for the sake of the upright in heart who rejoyces in Truths prosperity By one of the Lambs followers who makes warre against the head of the Dragon and against the rear of the Beast F. H. And the Merchants of the Earth shall weep and mourn over her for no man buyeth her merchandize any more Revel. 18. 11. And cryed when they saw the smoak of her burning saying what City is like unto this City Rev. 18. 18. LONDON Printed for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth near Aldersgate 1659. THE man-childe which was caught up unto the throne of God when the red Dragon sought to devour and destroy him hath appeared again in power and great glory after the long and cruell tyranny of the Dragon wherein she hath killed the Saints and prevailed against them and hath made great war spoil and havock of the remnant of the womans seed this 13. or 14 hundred years and hath compelled all both small and great whose names have not been written in the Lambs book of life to worship him and the Beast unto whom he hath given great authority to kill and to destroy whosoever worshipped the God of heaven that so they might be worn out and all the earth might worship him and feare him and extoll him and his authority Now the time times and a halfe being near an end that John saw the woman should be retired in the Wildernesse she appearing again in her beautifull garments and her heir and her seed appearing again after the long night of darknesse Now when the Lord in this the day of his power is appearing again and the man-childe that is to rule the Nations with a rod of iron Now the Dragon Beast Whore and false Prophet and all the mystery of Iniquity Gog and Magog and all Apostates Deceivers and Merchants of Babylon that have traded upon the waters upon which the whore sits they are all up in armes every one with his weapons which he hath formed in the bottomlesse pit is now set in array against the Lamb who is risen the Priests hirelings and Babylons Merchants who have got so great gain by Sea they have given the first on-set in the front of the black army of the Dragon and this sixe or seven years hath made a great noyse and hath raised so much smoak out of the pit that they have darkned the ayre and made it cloudy and hath filled the earth with a great noise that many have admired what the issue would be and what the event might prove but now many who have waited in patience have seen the Lamb appear and have seen his rising in majesty and hath prevailed And many of them who gave the first on-set grows weary seeing the battel goes too hard against them and the Lamb and his followers prevail And now comes on the tail of the Dragon as the reserve and the rear of the Beast among whom Edward Dod appears and he thinks to prevail and get himselfe a name and to do exploits but alass all his weapons are but the old broken bowes and the spear is that are strewed up and down the field of confusion which we have run over and over and trampled upon and esteems them no more then rotten wood He hath raked up those things which have been answered over and over and that which the rest of the Dragons army hath vomited up before in the beginning he hath licked up and now vomits it out again and casts out floods of poysoned words false accusations and arrogant reproaches and proud disdainful speeches as though his tongue were his own And like one of Ishmaels brood scorning and deriding at innocency and saith he hath laid down some of our Tenets and named them and shamed them All sober people who know any thing of God will see thou hast shamed thy selfe and not us in uttering forth thy folly And thy title of thy Book demonstrates what is within it the beginning is scorn and derision the end is folly and madnesse and many ignorant words uttered forth from a corrupt heart and unbridled tongue which is bent to do mischief and to speak falshood but lest thou shouldst glory in the old rotten broken weapons which thou hast taken up which were formed by thy leaders and not by thee which we have answered again and again and have over-run them as stubble which answers have cleared the truth to all sober people that they see all your weapons are but carnall and not spirituall and they have no might in them at all to stand against the truth nor them who are made free by it whose weapons are spirituall and mighty through God to beat down strong holds of darknesse and the towers of ignorance Many are beat down already and the Lamb is risen and upon the white horse and a numberlesse number is following him who rides on after him who shall subdue the Nations to himselfe and break the yoke of the ungodly and deliver the oppressed and no weapon that is formed against him shall prosper I say lest thou shouldst boast I shall return these lines in answer to thy book Thy book thou titles A pair of Spectacles for a dark-sighted Quaker I say thy Spectacles are more like to make ones sight dimmer then through them to be made to see they are such wooden ones but the Quakers sees before thee and beyond thee and comprehends thee and have received eye-salve whereby their eyes are opened to see thy deceit and the deceit of the treacherous generation with whom thou art joyned and thy rejoynder and vindication of Samuel Smith whom thou calls Minister of the Word at Cressage in the County of Satop thy vindication of him and thy pleading for him will not bring much honour to neither him nor thee and though thou and he both ioyne hand in hand in deceit yet you shall not go unpunished Thou tels the Reader of wandering Planets who have left their station who have stepped upon the Stage in the County of Salop who are come forth in this apostatizing time All who have a good understanding may clearly see not onely in the County of Salop but also in every corner of the Land many wandering Stars that have no habitation in the Firmament of Gods power but are tossed up and down and are as waters unstable tossed too and fro with every winde and the change of one Magistrate or head Governour will make them all change their forme and
was caught up to God when all the world wondred after the Beast them they had their rise And when the Kings and Rulers of these Nations did drinke of the Whores cup then they made Lawes to compell the Nations and the people therein to pay the whores Merchants and the Popes locusts which he sent over the Nations to fill the earth with their deceit which Laws stands yet in force as though they were some divine institution but both the tythes and the Law by which they are compelled to be paid we deny and bear our witnesse against as to be things which holds up the Devils Kingdome and the Gospel which the Nationall Ministery holds up and preaches hath no more ability in it to procure a maintenance for them then the Papists Gospell did for them So to be brief the Priests hath the Popes wages forced by a compulsory Law made and ratified by them who owned the Popes supremacy Furthermore we assert that tythes were never due by divine ordination but onely to the Priests Levites in the first Covenant nor never were commanded to be paid but in the Land of anaan and who so upholds the Ordinances of the first Priest-hood denies the ordinances of the second So this commandement to pay tythes now to them who are neither of Aarons nor Levies Tribe and by us who are not in Canaan temporall nor of Israel according to the flesh the Commandement by which tythes were due in the first Priest-hood reaches not unto us And after Christs ascension nor one of the Apostles either commanded or required any such practice of the Saints either to Colossia Corinth Antioch Philippi Pergamos or the rest of the Churches of Asia So that it 's evident to all judicious men that this is quite another thing got up in the Apostacy which no Minister or believer ever did own who were witnesses of the second Covenant but any who are not satisfied in this thing by what I have said which much more I could say concerning this thing but I refer them that are not satisfied to a Book called The great case of Tythes stated published by A. P. In thy fourth and fifth page thou art pleading for mastership for thy Ministers and so by thy own argument thou hast proved them out of the doctrine of Christ who said to his Ministers Call no man Master neither be ye called Masters but to oppose this thou brings John 3. 10. how Christ said to Nichodemus art thou a Master in Israel And then thou vaporest and saist these are not the words of Mr. Baxter and Mr. Smith but Christs In some translation it is Ruler in Israel In another Teacher in Israel But it may be some who coveted after mastership as thou dost hath put in Master for Ruler and Teacher but grant the word Master Christ testified that the Jewes and Pharisees that they were called of men Master and reprehended them for it And if he did say to Nichodemas art thou a master he spoke but in their language not with approbation of their being so called for it 's manifest he gave a contrary command to his Disciples and the commands of Christ did not contradict one another And as for Richard Baxter and Samuel Smith whose works thou saith doth witnesse for them beyond thy testimony As for R. B. his works are manifest to be works of darknesse many false lyes and reproaches he hath cast upon the living truth of God and hath been a great opposer of the strait way of the Lord for which the Lord will plead with him and you all in the day of his righteous judgement And as for S. S. let his owne testimony evidence what his worke is who said in the Congregation at Cressage he had look't for fruit seven years among them but found none So it 's manifest he is such a workman as may be ashamed of his work In thy sixth and seventh page thou sayest the Pharisaical Quakers makes voyd the fifth Commandement because they do not put off their hats to politicall and spirituall Fathers as thou calls them and thou heapst up a great deal of Scripture to no purpose not one word in them all doth prove any such thing as putting off hats either to Fathers spiritual or temporall and so thou art a perverter and a wrester of it to thy owne destruction and thou cites Rom. 13. 7. to prove putting off hats render to all their dues tribute to whom tribute and this is the tribute of the Nation thou saith And the 1 Pet. 2. 13. Submit your selves to every ordinance of man this thou bringst Ignorant block shew us either in plain Scripture or example from the Saints where it is commanded or commended or from any ordinance of man or else cease thy foolish clamour and learn a bridle for thy tongue and cease thy foolish inferences If the Magistrates had no better tribute then putting off the hat they would soon be poor Rulers And whereas thou callest it Civill worship doffing the hat and bowing the knee I know no more civility in it then if thou should put off thy Coat or thy Doublet to every one thou meetest with And most of this which thou calls civility is the most practised by them who are the rudest vainest and the phantastickst proud Anticks in the Nations who are full of flattery and deceit and vaine complements and to a proud fellow which hath a gay cloak or powdered hayr and a 〈◊〉 silver lace dawbed upon his cloaths then off goes the hat and the knee bowes and your servant Sir and your servant my Lord or your most humble servant or thrice humble servant when if he were commanded to do service to such a one would not do any thing materiall but disdain him And meet then with a plain man who will not complement and then sirrah unmannerly Clown and be ready to fight and this spirit rules the most in those men who are so full of their Complements that begets one another into pride and deceit and provoke one another by their bad example into deceit like drunkards drinking one to another to make one another drunk it 's like thou wilt call this civility too And if thou wilt plead it 's the custome of the Nation doffing hats and bowing The customes of the Heathen are vain and many In Israel who feared the Lord were not to walk after the customes of the Nations for this deceit was not from the beginning and who ever comes to be a follower of Christ who received no honour of men neither respected persons will deny this deceit Take him for thy example rather then a company of Fidlers and Roysters and Ruffins who are without the feare of God and Christ who is the Saints example he said how can you believe that seek and receive honour one of another So then they were unbelievers who sought and received honour one of another and wouldst thou and the rest who live in deceit