Selected quad for the lemma: nation_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
nation_n know_v let_v people_n 4,791 5 5.9690 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A91846 A treatise of the vanity of childish-baptisme: wherein the deficiency of the baptisme of the Church of England is considered in five particulars thereof. And wherein also is proved, that baptizing is dipping, and dipping baptizing. by A. R. Ritor, Andrew. 1642 (1642) Wing R1542; Thomason E152_4; ESTC R20692 24,769 39

There are 2 snippets containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

we must therefore of necessity here Sophisticate the matter by some distinction though never so absurd to bleere the eyes of the Nation and stop the Clamors of those that thus persue us to whom if we say nothing but let them alone in short time as it is said of the Samaritans Act. 8. 10. when Philip preached the Lord Jesus Christ unto them that all the people from the least unto the greatest will give eare unto them and then our Kingdom is at an end for which purpose some of them have improved their skill and thinking to silence the controversie as it is here stated thus to distinguish neither absolutly affirming that they are regenerate in Baptisme nor granting that they are not but that they are in the charity of the Church only so esteemed neither are any required to beleeve them to be regenerate as an Article of their Faith but in the judgement of charity In answere to which I desire them to informe me in the ground of this their charity for if it hath no ground in the word of God which is the rule of charity It cannot be termed charity but folly and presumption so to beleeve like unto that of the wicked who beleeve they shall have peace when as there is no peace to them Isa 48. 22. for hath God any where in his word spoken or Christ promised or the Apostles taught that hee will give his Spirit to Infants to regenerate them in Baptisme surely not a word no more then he hath said that he will destroy them in hell Therefore as it would be rash and censorious for any to judge they shall be damned in regard the Lord hath no where so declared so on the otherside it must needs be great folly madnesse and presumption for any to beleeve their Regeneration in Baptisme forasmuch as the Lord hath no where so promised Therefore for shame leave off this kinde of jugling and give glory to God in acknowledgeing the truth and then with me you will say It is no more the charity of your Church to beleeve thus but the presumption yea the craft and subtiltie of the Prelates and Priest hood of your Church for their bellies sake thus to delude and seduce the people But it after all this they shall object and say That Infants Object are elected and therefore may be Baptized To that I answere that all Infants are not elected and therfore Answ all Infants ought not to be Baptised But they will reply That in regard some Infants are elected Object and none can say that this or that particular Infant is not elected therefore Baptisme must be administred to all because we may not denie the elect their priviledges for feare of giving to others that which belongs not to them To this I answere That if it be a warrantable ground for Answ us to administer Baptisme to all Insants because that some particular Infants are elected then by the same reason it will follow That Baptisme may lawfully be administred to every man and woman in the world because amongst them also we may judge that some ●●e elected But this contradicteth the order and rule of Christ laid downe in the commission Matth. 28. 19. where he saith G●e teach all Nations and Baptise them and Mark 16. 16. He that beleeveth and is Baptised shall be saved first teach them that is make them Disciples or beleevers and then Baptise them and not before Therefore this reason brought for the Baptizing of all infants because that some infants are elected must be ranked amongst other of their Sophismes before detected 2. This being granted which is not true that Baptisme is to be administred upon the elect before they manifest faith then except we could know the elect from those that are not elected we ought to administer it to none at all for we may in noe case do evill that good may come thereon Rom 3. 8. Therefore whensoever the Lord commandeth us a duty or for biddeth us any evill he alwaies prescribeth unto us some rules that in the observation thereof we may answere ●im in what he requireth of us and never for want of instructions leaves us in such straites that we cannot obey him in one but of necessity we must offend him in the other And therefore we see when he commandeth us in Mat. 7. 15. to shun and beware of false Prophets he presently directeth us how to know them from his true Ministers whom hee requireth us very highly to love and esteeme 1 Thessa 5. 12 13. And so likewise doth he in point of Baptisme not only command the duty but also appoints the persons whom he would have Baptized Mat. 28. 19. else he would come farre short of Moses 〈…〉 faithfull in all Gods house Numb 12. 7. but Christ was as faithfull as Moses Heb. 3. 2. Therfore this objection which granteth that the Lord intendeth his Baptisme only for the elect and yet layeth an absolute necessitie to administer it to all others to whom he intendeth it not is most vaine and frivolous and therefore to be rejected of all And were it possible for us to know and distinguish the elect from the other as it is not yet I would faine see these profound Clarks make it appeare by the authority of the Scripture that they might lawfully upon that ground only administer Baptisme unto them I denie it utterly and affirme that its true faith only manifested and made knowne by confession with the mouth that gives the elect admission to Baptisme Act. 8. 37. Rom. 14. 23. And thus this objection is vanished away and so I shall proceed to the second particular The manner in which Baptisme is there administred 2. which is by sprinckling or casting a little water upon the head or face of the child Baptised wherein they shew themselves as contrary to Christ as in the former particular forasmuch as the institution of Christ requireth that the whole man be dipped all ever in water For the manner of the use of water in Baptisme must be either by infusion or by dipping But Iohn the Baptist or dipper according to the Dutch Version did use the water by putting the party in the water and not by infusing or sprinkling water upon the party as is proved Mat. 3 11. Ego men baptiz● humas en hudati 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I indeed Baptize you in water Mark 1. 8. ego men ebaptisa humas en hudat● I indeed have Baptized you in water also Iohn 1. 26. Acts 11. 16. All these poin● ou● a Baptisme in water but not a Baptisme with water Obj. But the word En doth somtimes signifie with as in Rev. 19 21. Kai Hoi Loipo● apecteathesan en teromiraia A. Never after this word Baptize which signifies to dip for if it should then it would be no sense to say dip with water Therefore either the word Baptizo must signify to sprinkle or else the word En must not
De Tri● Eloh Lib. 7. c. 1. effect of the Holy Ghost upon the waters which Moses describeth Gen. 1. to be a resemblance of that which the Holy Ghost performeth in the water of Baptisme for as there he rested upon those waters that he might cherish and prepare them for the producing of living creatures and for the Generation of all things So the Holy Ghost sits upon the waters of Baptisme and sits as it were abrood upon them and blesseth them and thence doth cherish regenerate and animate the Elect c. PETER MARTYR In Infants who by reason of their Loc. com ●●as 4 Cap. 8. Sect. 2. tender yeares cannot beleeve the Holy Ghost supplieth the roome of Faith AUGUSTINE cited by Bishop JEVVELL Def. ch 11. saith Infants have Faith of their own because they have Baptisme the Sacrament of Faith For saith he as the Sacrament of Christs Body after a certaine manner of Speech is Christs body so Baptisme is Faith because it is the Sacrament of Faith Dr. WHITAKER Infants are purged by the Spirit Treatise of the Sacraments seeing they are in the Church and of the Church Christ sanctifieth his Church The end for which Infants are Baptized in the Church of England is to regenerate them and that they may be borne a new and accordingly it is concluded in the Catechisme and confirmed by all these Authors and divers others well knowne to our Ministers the maintainers of this doctrine That in Baptisme they receive the Holy Spirit that they are regenerate and borne a new that they are made the members of Christ the child●en of God and heires of the Kingdome of Heaven In answere to all which I shall say nothing but only reason this with some other of their own principles and practise and thereby I doubt not but it will appeare to all how unfaithfully they have and do delude the Nations in this particular They are regenerate and borne againe in Baptisme they are then made the members of Christ the Children of God and inheritors of the Kingdome of Heaven Why then they are all saved No not so for the Ministers twenty yeares after if the Children live so long preach R●generation Repentance and conversion to them and tell them that they must then be regenerate and borne againe or else they cannot enter into the Kingdome of God for without holynesse no man can see the Lord. Why but what needs this were they regenerate and borne againe in their Infancy when they were Baptized and must they yet be regenerate and born again the second time or have they lost their first generation new birth and of the children of God and members of Christ become the l●mbs of Satan and children of the Divell No not so neither for the Ministers of the Church of England both have will defend and maintain the Doctrin of perseverance in the Regenerate and members of Christ both against Pelagians Arminians and Papists or whosoever else shall oppose or question the same What then were they in their Baptisme regenerate and borne againe made the members of Christ and children of God c. and have they not nor can they not fall away from that estate and yet shall they not be saved will God lose his children or Christ his members doth not Christ say except a man be regenerate and borne againe he cannot enter into the Kingdome of God Ioh. 3. 5. thereby assuring us that if a man be regenerate and borne againe he shall en●er into the Kingdome of Heaven Here now these these learned Divines are at as great a straight to defend their proposition and to avoyd the Arminians and others consequents that will necessarily follow thereupon as their predecessors the Priests and Elders were to justifie themselves in their rejecting of the counsell of God Luke 7. 30. When Christ demanded of them whether the Baptisme of Iohn was from heaven or of men Mat. 21 25. And therefore in all likelyhood they thus reason and debate the matter amongst themselves If we should say that Infants are not regenerate and borne againe in Baptisme then our adversaries the Anabaptists as we use to terme them will say that then our forme of Baptizing of Infants before laid down together with the Testimonies of our learned Fathers to whom both in this point and divers other we are more beholding then either to Christ himselfe or to any of his Apostles are nothing but meere conceits of mans foolish braine first invented to make all the world wonder after the Beast which otherwise never had nor possibly could have bin brought to passe besides this we our selves shall be found false witnesses of God and false Prophets to the people in pronouncing before God and them and bearing them in hand all the time of our raigne over them even unto this day that God hath regenerate and begotten againe their Infants in Baptisme when there is no such matter yea and how impudent and audacious shall we be judged to be in that we have solemly given thanks to God for regenerating their Infants in Baptisme requiring the people also to joyne with us therein exhorting them not to doubt but confidently beleeve the truth thereof If now we should acknowledge that they are not regenerate and borne againe therein Moreover if we should grant that Infants are not regenerate and born againe in Baptisme then it will follow that our Church hath a false constitution not being constituted of Christians beleevers Disciples Sonnes and Daughters of God but contrariwise of persons borne in sinne dead in trespasses and sinnes the children of wrath even of such persons as we declare Infants to be before we Baptize them and then our own definition of a true visible Church in the 19 Article where it is said that every true visible Church consisteth of beleeving men and women will rise up against us and declare us not to be the true Church of Christ Againe on the other side if we shall stand to it and maintaine that they are Regenerate and borne againe in Baptisme then first it will follow that the greatest part of our preaching might very well be spared for the whole Nation are regenerate and borne againe before we preach at all unto them namely in their Baptisme And also secondly it will follow that we convert none by our Ministry and then the Seale and marke of ●ur Ministry whereby we use to prove the same true against the Brownists will utterly faile us And thirdly we shall justly be impeached as abbettors of that Popish Tenet that Sacraments convey Grace Exopere operato by the worke done And last of all it will undeniably follow as the Arminians use strongly to inferre againstus from this ground That either the whole Nation is saved or that the Children of God and members of Christ persons regenerate and borne againe may finally fall away and be damned Now Sirs by this craft yee know we have our wealth Acts 19 25.