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A70493	A vindication of the primitive Christians in point of obedience to their Prince against the calumnies of a book intituled, The life of Julian, written by Ecebolius the Sophist as also the doctrine of passive obedience cleared in defence of Dr. Hicks : together with an appendix : being a more full and distinct answer to Mr. Tho. Hunt's preface and postscript : unto all which is added The life of Julian, enlarg'd.	Long, Thomas, 1621-1707.; Ecebolius, the Sophist. Life of Julian.	1683 (1683)	Wing L2985; ESTC R3711	180,508	416

humour was in his nature from the God of Nature and who hath resisted his Will The same Argument will the lascivious man who was born under the Planet of Venus and the Rebel and Murtherer who was born under Mars use in their defence as the scrupulous and obstinate who were born under Saturn And so any vice may be defended and the whole blame transferred on God who sent them into the world with such inclinations But on second considerations our Author might have told them that these wicked dispositions were the effects of the corruption of their natures contracted and propagated by original sin and that there is yet so much light from Nature but much more from the Grace of God as to discover and assist them in the correction of these unreasonable and ground less affections and passions and not to encourage them in them by telling them they are from God and infused into devout men that they may put a bar to such dangerous Innovations that are stealing on the Church and for the maintenance of the simplicity and purity of the Christian Religion and Worship This is a New Plea to encourage them to a New Rebellion as well as to justifie the Old And we know what slender pretences scrupulous and obstinate persons are wont to lay hold on to defend themselves in very unlawful practices in such cases as are confessedly unreasonable and dangerous and to which they have a natural inclination The Vulgar need a Curb to restrain them and not a Spur to provoke and haste them on When therefore you ask p. 86. What affrightment all this while either to Church or State from this weak and pitiful scrupulosity Where lies the Treason or Sacriledge Let our Author consult the History of the late War and Experience which some say is the Mistriss of Fools may resolve him It is no more agreeable to a scrupulous man about a Ceremony of the Church to depose and murder his lawful Prince than for a man of a nice Conscience to be impiously wicked p. 33. Pref. Yet Mr. Baxter and others will tell you that the greatest Impieties and Outrages have been committed by such men as pretended niceness and scruples of Conscience for their justification And who they were that would strain at Gnats and swallow Camels our Saviour told us long since But to return Upon this very Ground of a natural complexion c. p. 19. of the Preface he would excuse a vile sort of Presbyterians in Scotland as he calls them who have deservedly put that name under eternal infamy by their turbulent and contumacious carriage against the Kingly Authority Which yet he there says is not imputable so much to Presbytery as to the barbarous Manners and rough Genius of that Nation And is it not strange that neither the Learning and Knowledge of that Nation which afforded some men of all Ages of great excellency and which usually emollit mores nec sinit esse feros doth correct the brutish dispositions of men nor the power of Godliness and purity of Doctrine and Worship to which especially in latter times they pretended beyond all other Nations and was proposed by them and accepted by some of our own Nation as the great Rule next to if not above the Word of God for our Reformation could so far reform them as to teach them Obedience to their lawful Princes but they must still remain infamous as our Author observes for Disloyalty and a barbarous Treatment of their Kings And is it not yet more strange that we who are of a better Genius should learn of them who as you note do boast of one hundred and fifty Kings in succession in that Kingdom and you certainly aver that they really imprisoned deposed and murdered fifty at least before the time of Mary Queen of Scots that such an Original should be proposed to the English Nation that their Chronicles may also be defiled with the bloud of their Kings As for what you say p. 20. Pref. concerning the Queen of Scots that her prosecution was promoted by the English Bishops which putrid Vomit the Author of Julian's Life licked up and hath disgorged again to make the whole Nation stink I have said enough to vindicate the Bishops from that foul Aspersion It being designed by the Wisdom of the Parliament and by them justified for many Treasonable actions and Insurrections by her practised and contrived for which she was legally condemned not as a Queen nor as a Popish Successour much less as our Queen but as a professed Enemy to her Majestie that then happily reigned over us from whom she actually claimed the Crown and endeavoured by force to usurp it And she having first resigned her Crown and came hither for protection which she forfeited by her frequent practices of Treason was tried and condemned as the Wife of a Subject of this Land And happie had it been for this Nation if they had never learnt any other Regicide than this Fictitious one wherewith the Bishops are chiefly charged for no other reason that I can divine but because they will not give consent to another more unexcusable action now This rash Assertion of yours destroys all that laudible endeavour which you have worthily attempted for the vindication of our Bishops in other matters this is a Scandalum Magnatum with a witness and I hope you have yet so much ingenuity as to put your self to the voluntarie Penance of a Recantation the slander being so notoriously false And I am perswaded that the convictions of your Conscience will not give you any rest till you have made them as publick satisfaction as the injury you have done them is I proceed now to the third Head of his Discourse which leads me to shew the endeavours used to engage the Nation in a second unnatural War And I shall begin with that Speech of this Author p. 52. of Postscript The panick fear of the change of the Government that this Doctrine of the Divinitie of Kings occasioned and the divisions it made among us was the principal cause of the late War And p. 102. That War would have been impossible if the Church-men had not maintained the Doctrine that Monarchie was Jure Divino in such a sence as made the King absolute and they and the Church in consequence perished by it Now you have heard already how loudly the young Divines are accused for preaching this Doctrine And how false soever the Accusation be the Nation is called to stand upon her guard and the Royal Standard is feigned to be set up and perhaps the Seditious partie are really listed and associated And every man is called on to declare for what Partie he will engage The Neuters are accursed the Associators declared to be such as retain the old English Loyaltie after the taking of the Covenant and all that oppose these betrayers of their Religion their Countrie and the Laws yea they are told p. 149. that they ought not to subject

for well-doing and take it patiently this is acceptable with God 1 Pet. 2.20 And if it be the Will of God if shall be so we must learn of David though in another case Psal 39.8 I was dumb and opened not my mouth for it was thy doing P. 5. You seem not satisfied with Hippocrates Receipt of Citò longè tardè which preserved many Confessors in the days of Queen Mary and is prescribed by a greater than Hippocrates in this very case If they persecute you in one City flee to another Matth. 10.23 You are for Fires and Fumes of Pitch and Tar c. for Imprisonment and close Confinement even of innocent persons The Papists indeed apply such Causticks in cases of Heresie Apostacy and Tyranny but I never read that the Primitive Christians used them against their Princes not against Dioclesian a Tyrant Constantius an Arian or Julian an Apostate Nay even the Doctors of Rome forbid such Medicines even in the case of Tyranny without which the other two may not much hurt a sound Christian till the Disease be universalis manifesta cum obstinatione i. e. till after they find all other means ineffectual and he is resolved to make a total overthrow of his People Concerning which we are yet in the dark as to our own Case and you give us some light to comfort us when you say p. 65. of Julian's Persecution That it was but a flea-biting a short and weak assault of the Devil and that he was rather a Tempter than a Persecutor which makes their behaviour towards him if it were so barbarous as you represent it the less excusable Until a Plague be epidemical and wasting it is not charitable nor just to confine suspected persons much less them that are sound and to deal with them as persons destined to destruction to bury them alive and to make their own Relations instruments of these severities who may justly fear the like are intended for themselves Though some intend onely to lop off a degenerate Branch yet having got the Ax in their hand others may make use of it to strike a blow at the Root and to answer your Parenthesis plain English is as well understood on this side Trent as the other so that there is more fear lest we should lose a Protestant King as we have once already than a Popish Successor for though such an one may be deprecated as a Judgment and may prove as a Plague to the Nation yet may we not presently cut Throats to prevent what may never come or if it should make use of a Remedy worse than the Disease for Rebellion is as the sin of Witchcraft 1 Sam. 15.23 That Remedy which you suppose may be effectual to prevent this mischief will prove to be of that nature which is a Compound of belying the Primitive Christians and betraying Modern ones into a sin of Rebellion which may do more hurt as Experience hath shewn us than all the Arts and Witchcrafts of Julian In writing of whose Life you have not I confess impoverished the Subject p. 6. for you have onely weeded it as Mr. Baxter hath done the Ecclesiastical History in his Profane one of the Bishops and Councils P. 7. You say you wrote this discourse onely to render that of Julian 's Succession intelligible It is a strange course you take to make his Succession intelligible which you your self confess was from God by a legal descent and most agreeable to the Laws of the Roman Empire and yet seek to overthrow it you had done more to your purpose if you had shewn what party of Christians they were and on what grounds of Religion or Law they went what Sedition or Armies the Christians had raised to oppose his Succession of all which you give us not the least notice you onely suppose that if Constantius had known Julian's Religion before he was Emperour he would have gotten a Bill of Exclusion or if not the Christians would have resisted him And from their behaviour towards him after he was Emperour which is scandalously represented as is also the carriage of former Christians you would reconcile the Christian Religion and Rebellion This you have done intelligibly enough but that the Christians did or would have resisted his Succession I find no shew of Argument or Historie onely you give us some Rhetorical expressions out of St. Cyril's Invectives from which you infer more than the Premises will bear And you do not report as it becomes an Historian but onely suggest adde and invent what may insnare your Readers I ingenuously confess I do not believe all that St. Cyril speaks in praise of Constantius nor against Julian Panegyricks and Stelliteuticks have not the authoritie of true Histories with discerning men P. 7. You say your business is to shew how wide a difference there was betwixt the Case of Christians in Julian 's time and that of the first Christians and make it as great as Laws for men and against men could possibly make it yet you confess that what you have written is contrary to what is commonly reported of them and to the carriage of former Christians It is then some such New Light as Jo. Goodwin's Doctrine of Resistance that is your Guide but you take no notice of the unalterable Laws of God which bind all men in all Ages to be subject to the Higher Powers without distinction not onely for fear of Wrath but for Conscience sake There are few men that intend a Rebellion but will pretend to have the Laws on their side and if they may be Judges in their own Case will as certainly condemn the Legislator as dispute his Laws It were well if you would keep close to your Principle That the Laws of your Country are the Measures of your civil Obedience I am sure you want none to require your active Obedience to the just Laws of your Prince nor your passive Obedience if at any time you suffer wrongfully And this is not injoyn'd by Mahomet but by Christ himself it is the Doctrine of the Cross and not of the Bow-string The violation of the Law on the Princes side doth not discharge the Obligation of the Subjects they are under a higher Law than that of the Land The chief Magistrate's obliging himself to certain Rules for administration of his Government is not the just Measure or chiefest Tye of the Subjects Obedience The eternal Laws of God and our Saviour that require Obedience and Submission even to wicked Princes and that for Conscience sake and threatning Resistance with Damnation is a safer Rule for the saving of our Souls though not for the preservation of our Lives and Estates When St. Peter drew a Sword to defend his Master in a way of resisting and revenging him against the Officers of a lawful Magistrate he was commanded to put up his Sword and threatned that they that use the Sword should perish by the Sword Matth. 26.52 And when some other Disciples

greater Soloecism of an Emperour of the world awed and terrified with the fear of a kicking But it will not do No the Proverb hinders it None so blind as he that will not see It might have been done easily enough if you had not committed a Soloecism your self in translating the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he Brought but had kept the righter sence of that word which Billius the learned Interpreter of Gregory Nazianzen translates immiserat he sent or which your Elias Cretensis useth concitabat he stirred up or compelled to go against that Church which if the Emperour had been in person he need not to have done And therefore I suppose Gregory Nazianzen meant it of the Captain of the Archers that demanded the Church 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not pro imperio by virtue of a Mandamus or Commission from the Emperour for sure the Emperour himself needed no such Commission Nor is it probable that the Emperour himself would in his March against Persia trot up and down from one Church to another for you say he had assaulted many others to make a seizure of them Nor is it a Soloecism to say the Emperour seized those Churches which another did seize by his command Our Author I suppose was led into this errour by taking the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifieth induco to lead or introduce whereas the Interpreters that render it immitto or concito being better Grecians than himself understand it to be from the Verb 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of which every Lexicon will give him such a sence as that without a wresting of it it must refer to the Captain of the Archers But we are come to the end of this Tragi-comedy The Emperour kept himself in a whole skin the Bishops Anger vented it self some other way and all was husht and calmed But certainly our Author who hath first begun this Quarrel between the Emperour and the Bishop is much to be blamed whether he did it ignorantly which is the best construction that his Friends can make or else maliciously which appears by forsaking the Translations of Billius and Cretensis and preferring another that might favour his designe And I challenge him to be as big as his word and make satisfaction for this base Coinage And that you may not be guilty of such a wilful mistake for the future I shall give you this Token to be worn as a Frontlet on your brow That from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is derived 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an Instigator P. 44. Here you have a description of one of the Lachrymists of old c. How far this Bishop was a Lachrymist we shall see hereafter It were fitter for the Wit of a Julian than the Piety of a Christian to deride the Prayers and Tears of those ancient Christians Whatever Garlands and Trophies Nazianzen or Basil erected for that old Bishop are now pulled down by the hands of a young P who represents him as a Hector and a Striker expresly contrary to our Saviour's Example and St. Paul's Injunction You adde p. 44. And now I know no more than the Pope of Rome what to make of all this what they meant by it or on what Principles they proceeded I question not the Principles of those in whom you have instanced it sufficeth me that you say it was done in a fit of boiling anger But when speaking of the Principles of such as offer violence to their lawful Emperours you say you know nò more than the Pope of Rome I say it is pity that you should know or divulge half so much For what you have suggested concerning these pretended Violences offered by Primitive Christians to their lawful Emperours hath a very malign influence on the present Age and for this and other such Reasons as I said I would rather lose my right hand than be the Author of them But if you know their Principles as well as the Pope of Rome you know he holds it lawful to depose or kill any Prince whom he shall judge and Excommunicate as a Heretick or Tyrant and he can teach you to distinguish between resisting Julian and resisting the Devil that was in him That the King is Vniversis minor and that the people who gave him his power may resume it c. You say p. 45. none of those Bishops had ever been in Scotland nor had learnt to fawn upon an Apostate and a mortal Enemie to Religion Parcius ista For though some may think you are reflecting only on a Popish Successor yet others considering you speak of Julian who was now a lawful Emperour may stretch this line too far Scotland indeed hath been glutted with the bloud of their Kings whereof about Thirtie have sussered violent Deaths I acquit those Bishops from confederacie with Scotland they never contributed to the destruction of any I wish I could do so by the Presbyterians Yet I perceive you know how to yoak the Popes Bull and the Scotish Heifer together and with them to make large Furrows on the backs of Kings There was I remember for above Forty years since a great Correspondence between Rome and Scotland who then communicated their Principles to each other and though none of the old Bishops were acquainted with them yet some late Presbyters have espoused them and can on all occasions for the disturbance of our English Nation talk as Whiggishly as ever Knox or Buchanan did But they are so disingenuous as to conceal the names of their good Teachers from whom they learned to distinguish not onely between Julian and the Devil in him but between Charles Stuart and the King that they might destroy him in a double capacity first as a King and then as a Man And if as you say the Laws of our Land do not allow any one to imagine violence to their lawful Emperour And if as Bracton says fama apud graves bonos viros is a proof of Treason I fear an Indictment may lie against the Author of Julian's Life for that Not having the fear of God before his Eyes but being moved c. It is therefore a most profane and Reproachful inference with which you conclude Chap. 6. That in that Age the best Prayers and Tears were those that contributed most to Julian 's destruction An Answer to our Author's CHAP. V. Of their Devotions And first of their Psalms THis was indeed the Devotion of our late Times to begin with a Psalm not regarding the Scriptures or as much as the Commandments Creed or Lords Prayer and then to preach in their Prayers and pray in their Preaching or if you will in our Authors Language to say their Prayers backward In their Devotions you say p. 45. It might be expected we should see the flights of their self-denying and suffering Religion and one may expect they should lay aside their annimositie against Julian though he were their Ememie and for that reason pray the harder