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A57532 Remains of Sir Walter Raleigh ...; Selections. 1657 Raleigh, Walter, Sir, 1552?-1618.; Vaughan, Robert. 1657 (1657) Wing R180; Wing R176_PARTIAL; ESTC R20762 121,357 368

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of the wars in France and the losse of Rochett he was them enforced to consent to the Lords in all they demanded in the tenth of his reigne he fined the City of London at 50000. marks because they had received Lewis of France in the 11. year in the Parliament at Oxford he revoked the great Charter being granted when he was under age and governed by the Earle of Pembroke and the Bishop of Winchester in this 11. year the Earles of Cornewall and Chester Marshall Edward Earle of Pembroke Gilbert Earle of Gloucester Warren Hereford Ferrars and Warwick and others rebelled against the King and constrained him to yeeld unto them in what they demaunded for their particular interest which rebellion being appeased he sayled into France and in his 15. year he had a 15th of the temporality and a disme and a half of the spirituality and withall escuage of every Knights fee. COUNS. But what say you to the Parliament of Westminster in the 16th of the King where notwithstanding the wars of France and his great charge in repulsing the Welsh rebels he was flatly denyed the Subsidy demanded IUST I confesse my Lord that the house excused themselves by reason of their poverty and the Lords taking of Armes in the next year it was manifest that the house was practised aganst the King And was it not so my good Lord think you in our two last Parliaments for in the first even those whom his Majesty trusted most betrayed him in the union and in the second there were other of the great ones ran counter But your Lordship spake of dangers of Parliaments in this my Lord there was a denyall but there was no danger at all but to returne where I left what got the Lords by practizing the house at that time I say that those that brake this staffe upon the King were overturned with the counterbuffe for he resumed all those lands which he had given in his minority he called all his exacting officers to accompt he found them all faulty he examined the corruption of other Magistrates and from all these he drew sufficient money to satisfie his present necessity whereby he not onely spared his people but highly contented them with an act of so great Iustice Yea Hubert Earle of Kent the chief Iustice whom he had most trusted and most advanced was found as false to the King as any one of the rest And for conclusion in the end of that year at the assembly of the States at Lambeth the King had the fortieth part of every mans goods given him freely toward his debts for the people who the same year had refused to give the King any thing when they saw he had squeased those spunges of the Common-wealth they willingly yeelded to give him satisfaction COUNS. But I pray you what became of this Hubert whom the King had favoured above all men betraying his Majesty as he did IUST There were many that perswaded the King to put him to death but he could not be drawn to consent but the King seized upon his estate which was great yet in the end he left him a sufficient portion and gave him his life because he had done great service in former times For this Majesty though he tooke advantage of his vice yet he forgot not to have consideration of his vertue And upon this occasion it was that the King betrayed by those whom he most trusted entertained strangers and gave them their offices and the charge of his Castles and strong places in England COUNS. But the drawing in of those strangers was the cause that Marshall Earle of Pembroke moved war against the King JUST It is true my good Lord but he was soon after slain in Ireland and his whole masculine race ten yeares extinguished though there were five Sons of them and Marshal being dead who was the mover and ring-leader of that war the King pardoned the rest of the Lords that had assisted Marshall COUNS. What reason had the King so to doe JUST Because he was perswaded that they loved his person and only hated those corrupt Counsellors that then bare the greatest sway under him as also because they were the best men of war he had whom if he destroyed having war with the French he had wanted Commanders to have served him COUNS. But what reason had the Lords to take armes JUST Because the King entertained the Poictovins were not they the Kings vassals also Should the Spaniards rebell because the Spanish King trusts to the Neapolitans Fortagues Millanoies and other Nations his vassals seeing those that are governed by the Vice-royes and deputies are in policy to be well entertained to be employed who would otherwise devise how to free themselves whereas being trusted and imployed by their Prince they entertain themselves with the hopes that other the Kings vassals do if the King had called in the Spaniards or other Nations not his Subjects the Nobilitie of England had reason of grief COUNS. But what people did ever serve the King of England more faithfully then the Gascoynes did even to the last of the conquest of that Duchie IUST Your Lordship sayes well and I am of that opinion that if it had pleased the Queen of Eng. to have drawn some of the chief of the Irish Nobilitie into Eng. and by exchange to have made them good free-holders in Eng. she had saved above 2. millions of pounds which were consumed in times of those Rebellions For what held the great Gascoigne firme to the Crown of England of whom the Duke of Espernon married the Inheritrix but his Earldome of Kendall in England whereof the Duke of Espernon in right of his Wife beares the Title to this day And to the same end I take it hath Iames our Soveraign Lord given Lands to divers of the Nobilitie of Scotland And if I were worthy to advise your Lordship I should think that your Lordship should do the King great service to put him in mind to prohibite all the Scottish Nation to alienate and sell away their inheritance here for they selling they not only give cause to the English to complain that the Treasure of England is transported into Scotland but his Majestie is thereby also frustrated of making both Nations one and of assuring the service and obedience of the Scots in future COUNS. You say well for though those of Scotland that are advanced and enriched by the Kings Majesties will no doubt serve him faithfully yet how their heires and successors having no inheritance to lose in England may be seduced is uncertain But let us go on with our Parliament And what say you to the denyall in the 26th year of his reigne even when the King was invited to come into France by the Earle of March who had married his Mother and who promised to assist the King in the conquest of many places lost IUST It is true my good Lord that a subsidie was then denied and the reasons are
how excellently and easily might this have been done if the 400000l had been raised as aforesaid upon the Kings lands and wards I say that his Majesties House his Navy his guards his pensioners his munition his Ambassadors and all else of ordinary charge might have been defrayed and a great summe left for his Majesties casuall expences and rewards I will not say they were not in love with the Kings estate but I say they were unfortunately borne for the King that crost it COUNS. Well Sir I would it had been otherwise But for the assignments there are among us that will not willingly indure it Charity begins with it self shall we hinder our selves of 50000l per annum to save the King 20 No Sir what will become of our New years gifts our presents and gratuities We can now say to those rhat have warrants for money that there is not a penny in the Exchequer but the King gives it away unto the Scots faster then it comes in IUST My Lord you say well at least you say the truth that such are some of our answers and hence comes that generall murmure to all men that have money to receive I say that there is not a penny given to that nation be it for service or otherwise but is spread over all the kingdome yea they gather notes and take copies of all the privy seals and warrants that his Majesty hath given for the money for the Scots that they may shew them in Parliament But of his Majesties gifts to the English there is no bruit though they may be tenne times as much as the Scots And yet my good Lord howsoever they be thus answered that to them sue for money out of the Echequer it is due to them for 10. or 12. or 20. in the hundred abated according to their qualities that shew they are alwaies furnished For conclusion if it would please God to put into the Kings heart to make their assignations it would save him many a pound and gain him many a prayer and a great deal of love for it grieveth every honest mans heart to see the abundance which even the petty officers in the Exchequer and others gather both from the king and subject and to see a world of poore men runne after rhe King for their ordinary wages COUNS. Well well did you never hear this old tale that when there was a great contentation about the weather the Seamen complaining of contrary windes when those of the high Countreys desired rain and those of the valleys sunshining dayes Iupiter sent them word by Mercury then when they had all done the weather should be as it had been And it shall ever fall out so with them that complain the course of payments shall be as they have been what care we what petty fellows say or what care we for your papers have not we the Kings eares who dares contest with us though we cannot be revenged on such as you are for telling the truth yet upon some other pretence wee 'le clap you up and you shall sue to us ere you get out Nay wee 'le make you confesse that you were deceived in your projects and eat your own words learn this of me Sir that as a little good fortune is better then a great deal of virtue so the least authority hath advantage over the greatest wit was he not the wisest man that said the battel was not the strongest nor yet bread for the wise nor riches to men of understanding nor favour to men of knowledge but what time and chance came to them all IUST It is well for your Lordship that it is so But Qu Elizabeth would set the reason of a mean man before the authority of the greatest Councellor she had and by her patience therein she raised upon the usuall and ordinary customes of London without any new imposition above 50000l a year for though the Treasurer Burleigh and the Earle of Leicester and Secretary Walshingham all three pensioners to Customer Smith did set themselves against a poor waiter of the Custome-house called Carwarden and commanded the groomes of the privy Chamber not to give him accesse yet the Queen sent for him and gave him countenance against them all It would not serve the turn my Lord with her when your Lordships would tell her that the disgracing her great officers by hearing the complaints of busie heads was a dishonour to her self but she had alwayes this answer That if any men complain unjustly against a Magistrate it were reason he should be severely punished if justly shee was Queen of the small as well as of the great and would hear their complaints For my good Lord a Prince that suffereth himself to be besieged forsaketh one of the greatest regalities belonging to a Monarchie to wit the last appeal or as the Trench call it le dernier resort COUNS. Well Sir this from the matter I pray you go on IUST Then my Lord in the Kings 15. year he had a tenth and a fifteen graunted in Parliament of London And that same year there vvas a great Councell called at Stamford to vvhich diverse men vvere sent for of diverse counties besides the Nobility of vvhich the King took advice vvhether he should continue the vvar or make a finall end vvith the French COUNS. What needed the King to take the advice of any but of his ovvn Councell in matter of peace or vvarre IUST Yea my Lord for it is said in the Proverbs where are many counsellers there is health And if the King had made the vvarre by a generall consent the Kingdome in generall vvere bound to maintain the vvarre and they could not then say when the King required aid that he undertook a needlesse vvarre COUNS. You say vvell but I pray you go on IUST After the subsedy in the 15. yeare the King desired to borrovv 10000l of the Londoners vvhich they refused to lend COUNS. And vvas not the King greatly troubled there vvith IUST Yea but the King troubled the Londoners soon aftar for the king took the advantage of a ryot made upon the Bishop of Salisbury his men sent for the Major and other the ablest citizens comitted the Major to prison in the Castle of Windsor and others to other castles and made a Lord Warden of this citie till in the end vvhat vvith 10000l ready money and other rich presents instead of lending 10000l it cost them 2000l Betvveen the fifteenth yeare and tvventieth yeare he had tvvo aides given him in the Parliaments of Winchester and Westminster and this later vvas given to furnish the Kings journey into Ireland to establish that estate vvhich vvas greatly shaken since the death of the Kings Grandfather vvho received thence yearly 30000l and during the Kings stay in Ireland he had a 10th and a 5th granted COUNS. And good reason for the King had in his army 4000. horse and 30000. foot IUST That by your favour vvas the Kings savity for great armies do