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A27541	Ludlow no lyar, or, A detection of Dr. Hollingworth's disingenuity in his Second defence of King Charles I and a further vindication of the Parliament of the 3d of Novemb. 1640 : with exact copies of the Pope's letter to King Charles the first, and of his answer to the Pope : in a letter from General Ludlow, to Dr. Hollingworth : together with a reply to the false and malicious assertions in the Doctor's lewd pamphlet, entituled, His defence of the King's holy and divine book, against the rude and undutiful assaults of the late Dr. Walker of Essex.	Ludlow, Edmund, fl. 1691-1692.; Bethel, Slingsby, 1617-1697.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649. Reply to the pope's letter [of 20 April 1623]; Gregory XV, Pope, 1554-1623.	1692 (1692)	Wing B2068; ESTC R12493	70,085	85

Letter to Dr. Hollingsworth 'T IS common Sir to such despicable and malicious Brawlers as you are to rail at those things most that are most praise-worthy I should therefore esteem it scandalous to the Glorious Cause and Noble Performances of the most worthy Parliament of November 1640 which I have endeavoured to vi●dicate to be commended and account it a praise to be evil spoken of by you And it would provoke a Man to laughter to behold you betaking your self to Slanders and Calumnies to see nothing but Dirt and Filth issuing from your Mouth when you find your Arguments will little avail I should not give my self the trouble to animadvert upon your Follies and Frenzies but that I hear you are swollen with Pride and Conceit to an incredible degree I shall therefore shew that with a great deal of toil you have done just nothing at all and that you are fallen under a most prodigious degree of Stupidity and Madness to take so much pains to make your Folly visible to the World which till now you in some measure have concealed to be so industrious to heap Disgrace upon your self What Offence does Heaven punish you for in making you undertake the Defence of so forlorn and desperate a Cause as that of K. Charles the First and that with so much confidence and indiscretion and instead of defending it to betray it by your Ignorance It was as truly as ingenuously observed by the Learned Bishop Burnet in his Sermon before the House of Commons Jan. 31. 1688. That if one were to make a Panegyrick on Tyranny he ought to turn over all the common Places of Wit all the Stores of Invention and the liveliest Figures with which his Fancy would furnish him to make so odious a thing look but tolerably and by sacrificing Truth to Interest and varnishing it over with Wit and Eloquence he might shew how gracefully he could plead a very ill Cause And 't is certain that most Writers used some endeavour to carry on their Discourses by a Stream of Sense and Reason but you Sir have done it by a Course of Reviling and Railing and it may be truly said That if the dirty and Tinker-like Names the scurrilous and foul-mouth'd Expressions the spiteful and false Accusations I gather these Expressions from your Book were taken out of your Pamphlet it would appear but a poor and shrunken thing unpleasing to your self when you look upon it and of small power to work upon others that read it You seem rather to bawl and hoot at than to answer my Letter and your Book is the best Common-Place for Billingsgate that I have lately seen But it is well known that a Mountebank can neither draw nor keep a Croud about his Stage without the help of a witty or foul-mouth'd Buffoon And the gay Fancy the cutting Sarcasms wherewith your Tract is all-bespatter'd do adorn and render it highly entertaining to some Persons And I must confess that I find some subtilty in your first setting out for you begin cunningly and like an old Cavalier you place the Right Reverend and pious Bishop Kidder in the Front of the Battel just as King Charles the First did the Round-heads whom he had taken Prisoners at the Battel of Edghil these as we find the Relation in Husband 's Exact Collections pag. 758. he set pinion'd in the Front of his Men when he engaged the Parliament-Forces at Braintford to be a Breast-work to receive the Bullets that came from the Brownists and Anabaptists of such the King affirmed the Parliament Army to consist that the Cavaliers might escape them However the good Bishop I plainly foresee will come off as every of them did he may be shot through the Clothes but no way hurt For your Quotations out of the Sermons of this good Man and of that great and well-studied Divine Dr. Sherlock do only endeavour to aggravate the Iniquity of this Martyr's Murder whereas there is not one Syllable in either of my Letters relating to it I only endeavoured to evince That the King intended to bow or break us to perswade or force us to Slavery and that the Parliament when he was enflamed to take Arms against them and to put all into a common Combustion did in one hand present their humble Supplications most earnestly begging to enjoy the English Liberties in Peace and held in the other hand the Sword of just and innocent Defence against the Oppression and Violence of the Enemies of the King 's true Honour and of the Kingdom 's Peace And I am yet to learn that by any Law of God or Nations this could be judged to be Rebellion And I cannot see but Dr. Sherlock is of my Opinion for in his Sermon upon this last 30 th of Ianuary 1691 pag. 6. he saith He shall not dispute the lawfulness of resisting the King's Authority whether it were lawful for the Parliament to take Arms against the King to defend the Laws and Liberties of their Country He supposes that in a limited Monarchy the Estates of the Realm have Authority to maintain the Laws and Liberties of their Country against the illegal Encroachments and Usurpations of their King Now I go no greater length and I think this comes up to the great Lord Russel's Position which you had in my Letter pag. 20. That a free Nation like this may defend their Religion and Liberties when invaded and taken from them tho under pretence and colour of Law Your next step Sir is pag. 6. to my Quotation out of a Sermon of Bishop Burnet's Ian. 30. 1680. which you say you will transcribe to let the World see what a Cheat I am Well seeing you did so I will also transcribe it that the World may judg whether you or I be the Knave in this Matter the words are these I acknowledg it were better if we could have Iob's Wish that this Day should perish and the shadow of Death should cover it that it should not see the dawning of the Day nor should the Light shine upon it it were better to strike it out of the Kalendar and make our Ianuary terminate at the 29 th and add these remaining days to February These words say you are wrested by Ludlow and they appear at first sight only a Rhetorical Flight whereby that Right Reverend Person would express the detestableness and horridness of the Fact which he bewailed that day Now because I ever was against judging any thing upon the first sight I have twice read the Sermon of this Learned wise and highly meriting Bishop and must tell you that I did not wrest his words but that he was of Opinion that the observation of that Day had been too long continued and that in regard of the great abuse thereof by some hot-headed Ecclesiastical Make-bates 't was time to leave it off and I cannot but think that every Man will conclude as I do even upon the reading of his Text Zech. 8.19 Thus saith the

the Church of England without controul and under the publick Licence and Protection and 't is not only inconvenient to print at Amsterdam but in regard there are so many Tories and Iacobites employed in the Custom-House 't is no small Risque that every Man runs who would bring over any thing which is wrote for the Service of Old-England I mean the Government of England by King William and Queen Mary with Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament and that you agree to be Old-England indeed But I have too long digress'd You were telling me that I have so much lost my Credit with you that you will believe nothing of my bare Assertion Upon this you must allow me to say that you are laid so flat by the Reverend and pious Dr. Walker in relation to the idle Story of Sir Iohn Brattle about Dr. Gauden's Book commonly called King's and which they say Sir Iohn doth deny and you have put down so many things in your Defence of the Martyr which are incredible that your Credit is so much impaired with me that I cannot believe every thing you assert I therefore desire that for the future you would give your Authorities as I shall for what you write so that our Readers may know how to make a true Judgment of Things And I must tell you that you being deficient in this Point in your First Defence of King Charles I rather play'd than argued with you in my former Letter But I will now tell you that I had the King's Reply to the Nuncio upon his delivering the Pope's Letter to him from Cabala Mysteries of State pag. 214. where you may read it in these words I kiss his Holiness Feet for the Favour and Honour he doth me so much the more esteemed by how much the less deserved of me hitherto and his Holiness shall see what I do hereafter And so did England Scotland Ireland and the whole World his Bishops and Chaplains pressed Popish Innovations and preached Doctrines of gross Popery And I think my Father will do the like so that his Holiness shall not repent him of what he hath done Now Sir Cabala is a Book of clear Credit and not to be gain-say'd by you for you unluckily quote the same Book in the very same Paragraph wherein you raise your Huy and Cry after my Authentick Author And now for the further illustration of the Matters which I have too long dwelt upon I shall here transcribe not only that Letter we have been talking of but that of the Pope's to the King which he answered in so highly obliging terms and for your better Satisfaction you may compare them with Cabala p. 212 c. Pope Gregory the 15th's Letter to the Prince of Wales afterwards K. Charles the First Most Noble Prince Health and Light of Divine Grace c. GReat Britain abounding with worthy Men and fertile Virtues so that the whole Earth is full of the Glory of her Renown induceth many times the Thoughts of the great Shepherd to the consideration of her Praises In regard that presently in the Infancy of his Church the King of Kings vouchsased to choose her with so great Affection for his Inheritance that almost it seems there entred into her at the same time the Eagles of the Roman Standard and the Ensigns of the Cross. And not few of her Kings indoctrinated in the true Knowledg of Salvation gave example of Christian Piety to other Nations and after-Ages preferring the Cross to the Scepter and the Defence of Religion to the Desire of Command So that meriting Heaven thereby the Crown of eternal Bliss they obtained likewise upon Earth the Lustre and glorious Ornaments of Sanctity But in this time of the Britanick Church how much is the case altered yet we see that to this day the English Court is fenced and guarded with moral Virtues which were sufficient Motives to induce us to love this Nation it being some Ornament to the Christian Name if it were likewise a Defence and Sanctuary of Catholick Virtues Wherefore the more the Glory of your most Serene Father and the Property of your natural Disposition delighteth us the more ardently we desire that the Gates of Heaven should be opened unto you and that you should purchase the universal Love of the Church For whereas that Bishop Gregory the Great of most pious Memory introduced amongst the English People and taught their Kings the Gospel and a Reverence to the Apostolical Authority We much inferiour to him in Virtue and Sanctity as equal in Name and height of Dignity it is reason we should follow his most holy Steps and procure the Salvation of those Kingdoms especially most Serene Prince there being great hopes offered to us at this time of some successful Issue of your Determination Wherefore you having come to Spain and the Court of the Catholick King with desire to match with the House of Austria it seemed good to us most affectionately to commend this your Intent and to give clear testimony that at this time your Person is the most principal Care that our Church hath For seeing you pretend to match with a Catholick Damosel it may easily be presumed that the antient Seed of Christian Piety which so happily flourished in the Minds of British Kings may by God's Grace reverberate in your Breast For it is not probable that he that desires such a Wife should abhor the Catholick Religion and rejoice at the overthrow of the holy Roman Church To which purpose we have caused continual Prayers to be made and most vigilant Orisons to the Father of Lights for you fair Flower of the Christian World and only Hope of Great Britain that he would bring you to the Possession of that most noble Inheritance which your Ancestors got you by the Defence of the Apostolick Authority and Destruction of Monsters of Heresies Call to memory the times of old ask your Fore-fathers and they will shew you what way leads to Heaven and perceiving what Path mortal Princes pass to the heavenly Kingdom behold the Gates of Heaven open Those most holy Kings of England which parting from Rome accompanied with Angels most piously reverenced the Lord of Lords and the Prince of the Apostles in his Chair Their Works and Examples are Mouths wherewith God speaks and warneth you that you should imitate their Customs in whose Kingdoms you succeed Can you suffer that they be called Hereticks and condemned for wicked Men when the Faith of the Church testifieth that they reign with Christ in Heaven and are exalted above all the Princes of the Earth and that they at this time reached you their hands from that most blessed Country and brought you safely to the Court of the Catholick King and desire to turn you to the Womb of the Roman Church wherein praying most humbly with most unspeakable Groans to the God of Mercy for your Salvation to reach you the Arms of Apostolical Charity to embrace most lovingly

Most likely for this very reason and one who did not well know you to be a Hare-brain'd Blunderbuss would be ready to conclude with that ingenious Iacobite of the Lacedemonian Society who inveighing against my Letter told a Friend of mine it must be answered by a better Pen for the Doctor writes said he as though he play'd booty I appeal to any Man of common Understanding whether a better Reason can be invented to persuade the World of the Probability of Laud's sending the Common-Prayer-Book to be approved at Rome than you here assigned The Point is already settled that his Head was set upon Designs of Vniformity the Pope was his elder Brother the Papists came to the Common-Prayers of our Church for the first 10 years of Q. Elizabeth and by consequence might have so done to this day had not Pope Pius the 5 th prohibited them Let any Man shew me a more probable way to obtain a Repeal of that Bull which hath made the Papists ever since decline our Liturgical Church-Devotions and to bring them to Church again or rather to bring us to go to Church with them than by introducing a Liturgy allowed and approved by his Holiness a Liturgy in which as I said and you do not deny all the material Parts of the Mass-Book seminally were and wherein Transubstantiation was rather allowed than denied But that empty Head of yours is carried round that you do not know what is fit to be said What have we next Page 20. Well Sir you say If the Common-Prayer-Book was sent into Scotland pray let me ask you one Question In whose Name and by whose Authority was it sent The Answer is as obvious as short and you needed not to have sent to Switzerland to have a Resolution in the point 't was sent in the name of one who had not Authority to impose it upon the Scots according to their Laws You go on saying Why if they did not like it did they not first submissively petition their lawful King and let him know how disgustful the Liturgy was to many of his Subjects in that Kingdom Why 't is most evident from all the Historians of that time that they did in the very beginning petition in the most submissive manner against the imposing this Liturgy and that thereupon after the first reading it in the great Church of Edinburgh upon the 23 d of Iuly 1637 the Council of Scotland yielded that it should not be further urged by the Bishops till his Majesty's Pleasure were known Upon which the Petitioners returned satisfied to their Habitations But upon the 18 th of October there being a great conflux of People at Edinburgh to hear the King's Determinations a Proclamation was published commanding them upon pain of Rebellion to depart the City and shortly after the King commanded the Privy Council to receive no more Petitions against the Common-Prayer-Book Nevertheless you confidently demand Why if they did not like it did they not first submissively petition But the Scots shall here answer for themselves take their own words in their Charge exhibited in Parliament against Laud Our Supplications say they were many against this Book but Canterbury procured them to be answer'd with terrible Proclamations we were constrained to use the remedy of Protestation but for our Protestations Canterbury procured us to be declared Rebels and Traitors in all the Parish-Kirks of England When we were seeking to possess our Religion in Peace against these Devices and Novations Canterbury kindled War against us Our Scotish Prelates petitioned that something might be abated of the English Ceremonies as the Cross in Baptism c. but he would not only have these kept but others super-added which was nothing else but the adding Fewel to the Fire Read also their Expostulation in their Remonstrance 1639 Pag. 4. Certainly Posterity will hardly believe as we who have seen it cannot but wonder how it hath come to pass that we should have so long petitioned our Native Prince to do us Justice whereof he is Debtor to his People and to hear our just Complaints against the Usurpation of a few Men who were undermining the professed Religion and the Government of the State and to suffer us to live according to our Laws and yet could never be heard nor answer'd in the point of our just Desires far less will they guess what hath been the ground of that merit and trust of one domineering Prelate in the Affection of the King that it should be more forcible to diswade than all the Supplications and Intercessions of so ancient and faithful a Nation should have power to move Well what say you next Mr. Tittle-tattle The Scots took a Covenant against Compliance with the Church of England Against Compliance with the Church of England Ay now 't is out there 's the ground of the Quarrel the Scots traiterously refused to comply with Bp. Laud But they shall speak for themselves they answer you thus Doctor We are free of the heavy Censures of Rebellion and Treason which are so ordinarily thunder'd out that they are become the less formidable to us We are supported with this inward Testimony that we fear God and still honour the King although our Adversaries will not be pleased except we will follow their Rules which are not unlike those of the Jesuits sound at Padua when they were expelled the Territory of Venice One of them was that Men should take heed that they press or inculcate not too much the Grace of God Another was that Men must believe the Hierarchical Church although it tells us that that is black which our Eye judgeth to be white Unto which we may add the third invented by Ignatius Loyola of blind Obedience which we have no mind to practise To move forward Page 22. We find say you their Seditious Remonstrances Declarations and Pamphlets were dispersed Now I cannot find that Mr. Whitlock whom you quote informs you that their Remonstrances c. were seditious this is maliciously foisted in by you and if you were in Scotland you would as you deserve be severely punished which you would call Persecution upon the Statute against Leising-makers Mr. Whitlock in Pag. 28. which you cite gives this Relation About the year 1560 the Earl of Murray with Knox Buchanan and others gave such a shock to Popery as made every thing and by consequence Episcopacy which stood near it to reel He then shews how Episcopacy and Presbytery took their turns of Government and giving an Account of the King's Resolution to inforce the Common-Prayer-Book and by an Army to bring the Scots to obedience or as you phrase it to compliance with the Church of England he saith That because this was the Bishop's War it was held fit that they should contribute largely towards the Preservation of their own Hierarchy and accordingly the Clergy were assembled by the Bishops in their Diocesses and invited to a liberal Aid I shall now Sir in a short Digression