Selected quad for the lemma: nation_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
nation_n	england_n	law_n	statute_n	1,497	5	9.0809	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A61632	The unreasonableness of separation, or, An impartial account of the history, nature, and pleas of the present separation from the communion of the Church of England to which, several late letters are annexed, of eminent Protestant divines abroad, concerning the nature of our differences, and the way to compose them / by Edward Stillingfleet ...	Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699.	1681 (1681)	Wing S5675; ESTC R4969	310,391	554

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and_o subject_a to_o infinite_a disorder_n in_o sweden_n the_o archbishop_n and_o bishop_n be_v appoint_v by_o the_o king_n and_o so_o be_v the_o bishop_n in_o denmark_n in_o other_o lutheran_n church_n the_o superintendent_o be_v appoint_v by_o the_o several_a prince_n and_o magistrate_n 37._o and_o in_o these_o the_o patron_n present_v before_o ordination_n the_o synod_n of_o dort_n have_v a_o salvo_n for_o the_o right_n of_o patronage_n can._n eccles._n 5._o in_o france_n the_o minister_n be_v choose_v by_o minister_n at_o geneva_n by_o the_o council_n of_o state_n which_o have_v power_n to_o depose_v they_o and_o it_o will_v be_v very_o strange_a if_o this_o inherent_a and_o unalterable_a right_n of_o the_o people_n shall_v only_o be_v discover_v here_o where_o it_o be_v as_o unfit_a to_o be_v practise_v as_o in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n but_o mr._n b._n be_v unsatisfied_a with_o any_o law_n that_o be_v make_v in_o this_o matter_n 123._o for_o when_o the_o 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about_o patronage_n be_v void_a in_o themselves_o and_o all_o right_n of_o advowson_n in_o the_o king_n or_o nobleman_n and_o gentleman_n or_o university_n be_v mere_a usurpation_n and_o thing_n utter_o unlawful_a among_o christian_n since_o he_o make_v such_o a_o personal_a obligation_n to_o choose_v their_o own_o pastor_n to_o lie_v on_o the_o people_n that_o they_o can_v transfer_v it_o by_o their_o own_o act._n but_o upon_o second_o thought_n i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o the_o freedom_n of_o public_a church_n and_o the_o endowment_n of_o they_o do_v lie_n within_o the_o magistrate_n power_n and_o so_o bind_v law_n may_v be_v make_v about_o they_o unless_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o magistrate_n power_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o magistrate_n give_v and_o if_o these_o may_v be_v just_o settle_v by_o law_n than_o the_o