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A88109	Yperaspistes or a buckler for the Church of England against certaine queries propounded by Mr Pendarvis (late lecturer of Wanting) called Arrowes against Babylon. By way of reply to the most remarkable passages contained in them, and an addition of severall anti-queries in the close. / By William Ley Minister of the Gospell at Wanting in Bark-shire.	Ley, William, b. 1620 or 21.	1656 (1656)	Wing L1888; Thomason E882_1; ESTC R207277	27,478	28

Rome are as applicable to any State whatsoever no ingenuous Protestant will grant for all know the nature of individualls is to be incommunicable and that that chapter Revel 17. doth set forth one individuall State though not one individuall Person is the mind of all Interpreters A man at one time one saith Wollebius but in succession of time an order of men in the same state succeeding each other Antichrist saith b Jewell 2 Thess 2. Jewell shall be one estate or Kingdome of men and he alone that stops his comming is the Roman Emperour I will not name unto you Jerome Chrysostome Bernard c. But c Fox 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Revel c. 13. p. 270. M. Fox whom I hope you will the rather own because you honour him with a Quotation he therefore in his Comment upon the Revelations is point blanck against your Hypothesis for saith he besides this one there is not nor can be any City in the World unto whom all the symptomes and accidents can agree that are described Revel 17. But to argue hath any other State a situation upon d Plutarch calls it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Rom. Probl. Seven Hills The Names of them are so well knowne that I need not mention them Hath any State Scarlet Rulers beside Rome Had any ever so great power over the Nations as Rome both Heathenish Popish hath had Hath any a golden cup of fornication Is any drunk with the blood of Martyrs Doth the number e Haebr Latinè Graecè Angicè ר 200 RO Ϛ 100 λ 30 A 70 as Heb. ע the rest מ 40 M ο 70 α 1 Man 160 after the Greek ע 70 A μ 40 τ 300 of 200 נ 50 N ν 50 ε 5 R 100 ו 6 V υ 400 ι 10 O 70 ש 300 S σ 6 ν 50 ME 46           ο 70               σ 6     I suppose the name 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 according to Wollebius his Account to be most Authentick for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 according to M. Fox signifies 41 so amounts to 667 as for Bellarmines Cavill that it should be wrote 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 it is easily answered seeing Romanus is in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as well as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Latinus let the Reader observe that though it agrees in all Languages yet the number is found out most variously and excellently in that Character wherein the Evangelist wrote his Prophesies 666 agree to any in all Languages save to her which Irenaeus understood to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 about fifteen Hundred yeares agoe Saint John in this number is thought not only to point at his name but also to hint at the time of his rise and continuance f Reynolds against Hart p. 214. Rev. 13.18 But to examine your quotation of Rev. 17. and consider the precedent verses as helpes to expound the subsequent especially the 8 9 10 11. vers The Beast it was is not shall be and shall ascend The Beast By this name is meant a Prophane state viz. the Romane Empire It was Heathenish in S. Johns time Is not It is not at the time of this Prophesy what hereafter it shall be when once it is destroyed by the Goths and Vandalls Shall Ascend The Pope shall Ascend id est the Church shall swallow up the Empire and what the Romane Empire was that now the Romane Popedome is It is not and yet it is a Riddle not to be unfolded Papismus prout a concilio Tridentino fuit confirmatus est perniciosa Haeresis Ames in Cas Cons de Q. an Pontificii sint Haeretici l. 4. c. 4. Cos 1. fol. 121 without distinguishing the various state of the Beast which retaines the Authority though not the name of the Roman Emperour If every corrupt State might be called Babylon then the Spirit of God would not have said It is Not for at that time the Asian Churches were corrupted which was infallibly known by our Evangelist John Rev. 2. c. Yea Rome it selfe was corrupt some Centuries of yeares before it might be called Babylon apparently even according to the Judgement of some till the Councell of Trent which sate down in the Chayre of Pestilence and established iniquity by a Law We have tryed the Revelations Let us also see Daniel and Paul that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every truth may be established for what John discusseth Graphically that doth Daniel Typically and Paul Topically according to the Received opinion Dan. 7.8 The fourth Beast is the Romane Empire and the little Horne saith Jewell is Antichrist So 2 Thess 2.3 4 7. Who is he that exalts himselfe above God but he who calls himselfe a God and blasphemously preferres his own Canons above the Word of God who is he that letteth Antichrist from fitting on the Pinacle of pride but the Romane Emperour Who being taken away by Phocas gave him occasion to raise his Ambitious Plumes upon his Masters Ruines Now if any man after so cleare evidence held forth to the state of the question whether such Characters as these may be applyed to any State shall refuse to give in his Assent I leave him to be censured by an higher Judgement then mine own and that is Gods and his own conscience Titus 3. v. 10 11. Ob. Perhaps it may be objected by some that the Scripture speakes of many Antichrists 1 Joh. 2.18 Sol. To it I answer That Antichrist is tooke in a twofold sence either Largely or Strictly 1. Largely for Ebion and Cerinthus c. 2. Strictly for Christs grand enemy the Pope whom Paul calls 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 2 Thess 2. Or with M. Fox Antichrist may be taken either 1. Personally or 2 Figuratively 1. Personally for any or every person that opposeth Christ in which sence M. P cannot say but himselfe hath been an Antichrist if he ever opposed either Nature person or offices of Christ 2. Figuratively or Politically so it sets forth one State or Kingdome or City constituted under one Head with divers Members As there may be many petty Lords in a Nation yet but one Lord Paramount so there may be many petty Antichrists Sunt multi Antichristi sed unus proprie est Antichristus quem seriptura filium perditionis Neminat 2 Thes 2. Aret loc com p. 375. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or by way of excellency there is but one Antichrist but in generall all Haeretiques may be called Antichristian Wolleb Alsted yet one only by way of eminency for as Moses his serpent swallowed up all other Serpents and as the greater Fishes of the Sea swallow up the lesse So this grand Antichrist hath carryed away the Bell that is the noyse and denomination from all the rest Q. 3. Whether the Church of England the Nation considered as a Church with the parochiall congregations be not a

hath not bowed to Baal every mouth that hath not kissed him Fly out Privation presupposeth a habit would you have those fly out that are not in Q. 21. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Whether the Antichristian Ministry in the Nation which derive their Church state from Rome are not found committing fornication with the Kings of the Earth A. Christ signifies anoynted Those that would pull down Magistracy and Ministry are Antichrists because they oppose the Lords Anoynted not with a Materiall but with a Spirituall Vnction I seldome find any persons murmuring against Aaron but they murmure against Moses also Give me leave to quote here a Passage of Buxtorfes Epistle before his Hebrew a Substraxit Judaeis immorigeris Pastotes Prophetas animarum sustulit Reges Tutores Corporum conservatores Tran uillitatis publicae Iude res ipsorum Caeperunt magis magisque pessum Ire Religio Concidere Sectae irrumpere Tunc nulla pax domi sed Horribilis Vastatio c. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Lexicon When the People of Israel saith he were refractory and Perfidious God resolved to cast them off and to ingraffe the Gentiles He then takes from the disobedient Jewes the Prophets who were the Pastors of their Soules and Kings the Protectors of their Common-wealth and conservators of publique Tranquility After that all things were worse with them Religion fell and Sects and Schismes broke in upon them there was no peace at Home but horrible Confusions c. Q. 22. Many found willfull Apostates A. Apostacy is a Retrograde motion from Religion it is either Totall or Partiall of Malice with Julian or of Infirmity who these be I leave to you to determine I think many Anabaptists persecute that light which first they professed and oppose that Ministry that brought them to a state of Grace if they have any more then the gracelesse Commonalty 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Qu 23. In Babylon was found all the Blood of Saints A. I am sure if Anabaptists be Saints there is not a drop of their blood yet spilt amongst us there is as yet no violent Persecution thanks to the Powers above Austin tells us of Three sorts of Persecutions that shall befall the Church the first Violent the second Fraudulent the third both Violent and Fraudulent Men will sow the Lyons skinne and the Foxes tayle together to act their Part against Christ and his cause But then the Ministers of Christ shall as Luther saith be either in Heaven or under Heaven In which place I would willingly leave you and sublimate your thoughts as Christ did the Sonnes of Zebedee from puzling themselves about a Temporall Kingdome Thus Sir as multiplicity of businesse would allow me besides personall infirmities I have endeavoured to give satisfaction to your Queries If hence either you or others may be admonished I am sufficiently rewarded True friendship saith a Vera amicitia monet monetur Cujus Aures Clausae sunt Veritati ejus desperanda salus Cicero Cicero doth admonish and is admonished If we will be the Sonnes of Truth we must consider what it speaketh and trample upon our own credit yea and other mens too if either be any way an impediment unto it Had I not feared the Insolency of some of your own party and the Proximitie of the danger to some of my own flock I should not have put forth this defensive Armour And as for the end I proposed to my selfe in entring the Lists of Controversy with you I solemnely Professe I never aimed at Victory but the Truth and rather at the Conversion of your Person then the Subversion of your Queries ΤΕΛΟΣ Anti Queries proposed to the Author of the Queries Q. 1. WHether you do not revive old Heresies specially those of the Donatists in severall branches which they held 1. That the Church was only in a corner of the Nation 2. That it was fit to Rebaptize such as were orthodoxly Baptized 3. That they had a Church without spot or blemish 4. That the efficacy of the Sacrament depends upon the Minister 5. That the Magistrate hath no authority in matter of Religion 6. That all other Assemblyes were prophane except their own Q. 2. Whether you are not one of the least of those that follow the Lambe not in your fained 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but in regard of your bitter expressions against the Church of God calling it Antichristian Babylon Jezabell c. whereby you have made your Arrowes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Eph. 6.16 Q. 3. Whether you have not pleased the Papist in this booke as much as displeased the Orthodoxe and so made sad the heart of the righteous whom God hath not made sad and strengthened the hand of the wicked that they should not turne from their wickednesse Q. 4. Whether M. Lat mer in his fourth Sermon did know what an Heretick was when he calls the Anabaptist by that name as such that oppose verity as well as unity And whether also the Martyr Philpot did well to say in the Book of Martyrs that the Anabaptists were a sort of men stirred up to hinder the reformation of the Gospell And if so whether God will not remove every pricking Bryer as well as every grieving thorne from the house of Israell Q. 5. Whether had the Anabaptists enjoyed the same liberty in the Kings time as they doe now it would not have been looked upon as an unspeakeable favour Q. 6. Whether Auxentius one of the Arrian Sect were not the first that opposed Poedobaptisme And whether Agrippine of Carthage were the first of mortalls that brought in rebaptization Q. 7. Whether it becomes Anabaptists to pull down publike places of worship and to disturbe a Godly Ministry and so to draw upon themselves the guilt of other mens sinnes Q. 8. Whether disputation be a convenient way to determine differences of this nature Except authorized and managed by the publique Magistrate For faith Luther Heresie is the scourage of divine wrath as a carnall sword in their coasts was the plague of a carnall people so is the Spirituall sword amongst Christians therefore it is not to be overcome saith he by wit and learning but by prayer and fasting Q. 9. Whether Christ did ever authorize any to Baptize but a Minister or one extraordinarily qualifyed And whether you concurre not with the Papists in suffering others to Baptize Q. 10. What shall become of Infants under the New Testament seeing according to your tenets they neither believe nor are to be Baptized Mark 16.16 Q. 11. Whether you hold it unfit that such pious Ministers as preach the Gospell should live of the Gospell Q. 12. Whether it be lawfull for a Pastor to be circumforaneous And to take care of severall Churches at a remote distance except he can shew Apostolicall institution And whether this doth not justifie the Popish and Prelaticall Clergy in their large Commenda's of one man to plurality of Benefices Q. 13. Whether Davenants question mutatis mutandis An Iesuit pontificii possunt esse boni subditi may not as pertinently be demanded concerning some others of your party that are of the same bitter subtile and implacable spirit Q. 15. Whether those that seem to desire the comming in of the Jewes doe not only erre in Politicks but also in Piety The eares of some men being more open to novelty then truth and the spirit of men more prone in this present juncture of time to sedition then subjection Q. 15. Whether Saint Austin were not a man of incomparable meeknesse of a Lamb-like spirit indeed who did often intercede with the Magistrates in behalfe of the Donatists though bitter Enemies to him and the truth Q. 16. Whether those men that talke so much against Babylon would not do well to fight against it I meane Babylon mysticall not phantasticall and whether it be not madnesse for us that have so many enemies abroad to spend our time in darting one against another at home The words of Lucan are not impertinent to unfold our case Cumque superba foret Babylon spolianda tropheis Bella geri placuit nullos habitura triumphos FINIS Reader take notice that in p. 9. l. 27 28. The heart of Cyrus c. are M. P's words l. 30. for Rhetorick read Rhetorius