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A63577 A true narrative of the Portsmouth disputation, between some ministers of the Presbyterian, and others of the Baptist, persuasion, concerning the subjects and manner of baptism held in Mr. Williams's meeting-place there on Wednesday, Feb. 22. 1698/9. The managers for the Presbyterians were, Mr. Samuel Chandler of Fareham. Mr. Leigh of Newport in the Isle of Wight. Mr. Robinson of Hungerford in Berks, moderator. For the Baptists were, Dr. William Russel of London. Mr. John Williams of East Knoyle in Wiltshire. Mr. John Sharp of Froome in Somersetshire, moderator. Transcribed from two copies taken at the dispute; the one by Mr. Bissel Town-Clerk of Portsmouth, and the other by Mr. Samuel Ring. Revis'd and publish'd by Dr. William Russel. Bissel, Mr.; Ring, Samuel.; Russel, William, d. 1702. 1699 (1699) Wing T2806A; ESTC R215290 67,061 90

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the_o field_n be_v not_o capable_a therefore_o infant_n be_v not_o capable_a upon_o this_o there_o be_v a_o great_a disorder_n among_o they_o and_o a_o person_n in_o the_o company_n cry_v out_o he_o speaks_z blasphemy_n but_o one_o of_o the_o minister_n that_o sit_v by_o he_o be_v so_o just_a as_o to_o satisfy_v he_o to_o the_o contrary_a for_o which_o he_o deserve_v thanks_o but_o mr._n robinson_n their_o moderator_n stand_v up_o and_o throw_v himself_o about_o make_v a_o noise_n like_o one_o in_o a_o delirious_a paroxysm_n and_o bid_v the_o people_n take_v notice_n that_o dr._n russel_n have_v rank_v their_o infant_n among_o the_o brute_n beast_n and_o that_o if_o they_o become_v of_o his_o opinion_n they_o must_v look_v upon_o they_o as_o dog_n or_o cat_n or_o hog_n etc._n etc._n with_o much_o more_o of_o the_o same_o sort_n of_o rhetoric_n endeavour_v all_o he_o can_v to_o enrage_v the_o multitude_n of_o unthinking_a person_n against_o he_o and_o put_v the_o people_n into_o a_o 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