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A41009 Kātabaptistai kataptüstoi The dippers dipt, or, The anabaptists duck'd and plung'd over head and eares, at a disputation in Southwark : together with a large and full discourse of their 1. Original. 2. Severall sorts. 3. Peculiar errours. 4. High attempts against the state. 5. Capitall punishments, with an application to these times / by Daniel Featley ... Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645. 1645 (1645) Wing F586; ESTC R212388 182,961 216

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have baptized you with water and he will baptize you with the holy Ghost And in the 19. of the Rev. 21. ver it is in the originall 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is word for word they were slain in the sword yet must it be translated they were slain with the sword not in the sword Notwithstanding I grant that Christ and the Eunuch were baptized in the river and that such baptisme of men especially in the hotter climates hath been is and may lawfully be used yet there is no proof at all of dipping or plunging but only washing in the river But the question is whether no other baptizing is lawfull or whether dipping in rivers be so necessarie to baptisme that none are accounted baptized but those who are dipt after such a manner this we say is false neither do any of the texts alledged prove it It is true dipping is a kind of baptizing but all baptizing is not dipping The Apostles were baptized with fire yet were they not dipt into it tables and beds are said in the originall to be baptized that is washed yet not dipt The Israelites in the wildernesse were baptized with the cloud yet not dipt into it the children of Zebedee were to be baptized with the baptisme of blood wherewith our Saviour was baptized yet neither he nor they were dipt into blood Lastly all the fathers speak of the baptisme of tears wherewith all penitents are washed yet there is no dipping in such a baptisme As for the representation of the death and resurrection that is not properly the inward grace signified by baptisme but the washing the soul in the laver of regeneration and cleansing us from our sins However in the manner of baptisme as it is administred in the church of England there is a resemblance of death and the resurrection For though the child he not alwayes dipped into the water as the rubrick prescribeth save only in case of necessitie which would be dangerous in cold weather especially if the child be weak and sickly yet the Minister dippeth his hand into the water and plucketh it out when he baptizeth the infant The second error of the Anabaptists which A. R. strenuously propugneth is their decrying down paedo baptisme and with-holding Christs lambs from being bathed in the sacred Font. This foul error or rather heresie for it is condemned for such both by the primitive and the reformed churches he endeavoureth to blanch in part if not to quite clear from all aspersion and justifie by four arguments which I will propound in his own words that he may not say I shoot his arrows without their heads the first I find p. 27. PART I. The administration of baptisme which hath no expresse command in Scripture and which overthrows or prevents that administration of baptisme which is expressely commanded in Scripture is a meer device of mans brain and no baptisme of Christ. But the administration of baptisme upon infants hath no expresse command in Scripture and it overthrows or prevents the administration of baptisme upon disciples or beleevers which is expressely commanded in Scripture Mat. 28. 19. Mar. 16. 16. Ioh. 4. 1. 2. Act. 2. 38. and 8. 37. Therefore the administration of baptisme upon infants is a meer device of mans brain and no baptisme of Christ. This argument stands as it were upon two legs and both of them are lame the one is that nothing may be done in the worship of God without expresse command in Scripture This is an ignorant and erroneous assertion For first there is no expresse precept in Scripture for beleeving and acknowledging in terminis three Persons in the unitie of the deitie and yet Athanasius faith in his Creed that whosoever beleeveth not and worshipeth not the Trinitie in unitie and unitie in Trinitie shall perish everlastingly Secondly there is no expresse command in Scripture to confesse the holy Ghost to proceed from the Father and the Son tanquam distinctis personis yet it is not only an article of religion in the church of England but also set down in the confession of the Anabaptists lately printed Thirdly there is no expresse precept for the abrogating of the Jewish sabbath and religious observing the Christian yet no Anabaptists hold themselvs bound to keep holy the Saturday or Jewish sabbath neither have they yet to my knowledge oppugned the observation of the Lords day Fourthly there is no expresse precept in Scripture for womens receiving the sacrament of the Lords Supper For though the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 used by the Apostle Let a man examine himself and so let him eat of this bread and drink of this cup is a common name to both sexes yet the Apostle useth the masculine article 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and so there is no expresse command but for men yet no sectaries upon record no not the Anabaptists themselvs exclude women from the holy Communion Fifthly there is no expresse precept for re-baptizing those who in their infancie were baptized by a lawfull minister according to the form prescribed by our Saviour in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy Ghost nay rather there is an expresse prohibition in the words of the Apostle one faith one baptisme and in that clause of the Nicen Creed I beleeve one baptisme for the remission of sins yet re-baptizing is a prime article of the faith of this sect from whence they take their very name of Anabaptists that is re-baptizers If A. R. here will stretch expresse precept to any thing that is commanded in Scripture either immediatly or mediatly either in particular or in generall either in plain or direct tearms or in the true sense of the text so I grant all the four former orthodox tenets may be proved by Scripture And so also I have before proved the lawfulnesse of baptizing children though there be no expresse Scripture for it intormini● The other leg also upon which his argument standeth is as lame as the former For the baptisme of infants no way over-throws or prevents the baptizing of any disciples or beleevers instructed in the mysteries of salvation of whom the texts alledged are meant but there-baptizing of such who were before baptized in their infancie which re-baptizing is no where commanded in Scriptures and as if all nations were converted to the Christian faith there needed no more conversion so if all were admitted to the church by baptisme in their infancie they should need no other admission by re-baptizing them but there will be alwayes some to be converted till the fulnesse of the Iews and Gentiles also is come in and till then there will be use of that precept of our Saviour Mat. 28. Go teach all nations baptizing them the second Argument of his against paedo-baptisme PART 2. The second I find p. 20. If they ground the baptizing children from
The Discription of the severall 〈◊〉 OF ANABAPTISTS With th●re manner of Rebaptizing Cyprian de Habitu Virg Sordidat i●ta Lavatia non abluit n●c emundat membra Sed commaculat W. M. sculpsit 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Dippers dipt OR THE ANABAPTISTS DVCK'D AND PLVNG'D Over Head and Eares at a Disputation in Southwark TOGETHER WITH A large and full DISCOURSE of Their 1. Originall 2. Severall sorts 3. Peculiar Errours 4. High Attempts against the State 5. Capitall punishments with an Application to these times By DANIEL FEATLEY D. D. Válens Gratianus ad Florianum Vicarium Asiae Antistitem qui sanctitatem baptismatis illicita usurpatione geminaverit sacerdotio indignum esse censemus Eorum enim damnamus errorem qui Apostolorum praecepta calcantes Christiani nominis sacramenta sortitos alio rursus baptismate non purificant sed incestant sacramenti nomine polluentes LONDON Printed for Nicholas Bourne at the South Entrance of the Royall Exchange And Richard Royston in Ivie-Lane 1645. TO THE MOST NOBLE LORDS WITH THE HONORABLE KNIGHTS CITIZENS and BURGESSES Now Assembled in PARLIAMENT THe bright burning Taper of Geneva as warme in his Devotions as cleare and lightsome in his Disputes truly observeth that the pure doctrine of the Gospel never appeares as it were above the water but Satans watchful eye is upon it and he casts an envious gloate at it and hath his Tobiases and Sanballats either to jeere or fright the sincere Professors out of the powerfull preaching thereof In which regard it is that as the Jewes in their edifying the materiall Temple so you in the repairing of the Spirituall have a weapon in the one hand and a toole in the other and you have hitherto more imployed the Sword then the Mattock or Spade by reason of the great opposition on all hands and after you shall through Gods blessing have laid the roofe on this sacred building and gratefull posterity put a garland of glory upon your heads for it yet still there will be use of an arming sword not of War but of Justice to cut off Superstition and Idolatry on the one side and Profanenesse and Sacriledge on the other Heretiques with one edge and Schismatiques with the other For as in the beginning of the Reformation so now in the endeavoured perfection thereof the mortall enemie of our immortall soules sets on work all sorts of Heretiques and Schismatiques to hinder disturbe and if it were possible destroy this excellent work The Heretiques he employeth to pervert the Catholique doctrine the Schismatiques to subvert the Apostolike discipline of the Church the Heretiques endeavour to shake the foundations the Schismatiques to make breaches in the walls the Heretiques to rot the maine timber the Schismatiques to pull in sunder the rafters of this sacred structure Now of all Heretiques and Schismatiques the Anabaptist in three regards ought to be most carefully looked unto and severely punished if not utterly exterminated and banished out of the Church and Kingdome First In regard of their affinity with many other damnable Heretiques both Ancient and Later for they are allyed unto and may claime kindred with 1. The Millenarians in the first Age proclaiming Christs Temporal Kingdome upon earth for a thousand yeares before the day of Judgment 2. With the Marcionites in the second Age who denyed the substance of Christs humane body made of a woman 3. The Catharists or Novatians in the third Age who denyed Repentance and restitution to the Church thereupon to those that fell in time of persecution 4. With the Donatists in the fourth Age who re-baptized all those that had received Baptisme before in the Catholique Church Lastly with a rabble of Heretiques in the latter Ages namely the Apostolici the Adamites the Enthusiasts the Psycopannychists the Polygamists the Iesuits the Arminians and the Brownists of all which and their Errours I have set downe a particular Catalogue Chap. 2. As it was said of Caius Caesar In uno Caesare multi Marii and as Cicero saith of the Familie of the Bruti that it had in it multorum insitam atque illuminatam virtutem so in one Anabaptist you have many Heretiques and in this one Sect as it were one stock many erroneous and schismaticall positions and practices ingraffed and as it were inoculated Secondly in regard of their audacious attempts upon Church and State and their insolent acts committed in the face of the Sun and in the eye of the high Court of Parliament Whereas other depravers of the Doctrine or disturbers of the Peace of the Church whether Papists Socinians or Arminians who in the later times have braved it and set up their top and top-gallant yet since Argus with his hundred eyes hath pryed into every corner of this Kingdome and severall roomes in the great Ship of the Church have bestowed themselves under the hatches and layne close in obscurity these with the forwardest of the Brownists strut in the upper deck and discover themselves with open face 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and upbraid the State with their merit in hazarding their estate and persons in this present War and boast with swelling words of vanity that they expect somewhat more then a toleration They preach and print and practise their Hereticall impieties openly they hold their Conventicles weekly in our chiefe Cities and Suburbs thereof and there prophesie by turnes and that I may use the phrase of Tertullian aedificantur in ruinam they build one another in the faith of their Sect to the ruine of their soules they flock in great multitudes to their Iordans and both Sexes enter into the River and are dipt after their manner with a kind of spell containing the heads of their erroneous tenets and their engaging themselves in their schismaticall Covenants and if I may so speak combination of separation And as they defile our Rivers with their impure washings and our Pulpits with their false prophecies and phanaticall enthusiasmes so the Presses sweat and groane under the load of their blasphemies For they print not onely Anabaptisme from whence they take their name but many other most damnable doctrines tending to carnall liberty Familisme and a medley and hodg-podge of all Religions Witnesse the Book printed 1644. called The Bloodie Tenet which the Author affirmeth he wrote in Milke and if he did so he hath put much Rats bane into it as namely That it is the will and command of God that since the comming of his Sonne the Lord Iesus a permission of the most Paganish Iewish Turkish or Antichristian Consciences and Worships be granted to all men in all Nations and Countryes That Civill States with their Officers of Iustice are not Governours or Defenders of the Spirituall and Christian state and worship That the doctrine of Persecution in case of Conscience maintained by Master Calvin Beza Cotton and the Ministers of the New English Churches is guilty of all the blood of the soules crying for vengeance