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A86506 A vindication of baptizing beleevers infants. In some animadversions upon Mr. Tombes his Exercitations about infant baptisme; as also upon his Examen, as touching the antiquities and authors by him alledged or contradicted that concern the same. Humbly submitted to the judgement of all candid Christians, / by Nathanael Homes. Published according to order. Homes, Nathanael, 1599-1678. 1646 (1646) Wing H2578; Thomason E324_1; ESTC R200604 209,591 247

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constitute_v in_o a_o family_n gen._n 17.12_o 13._o or_o in_o the_o nation_n exod._n 12._o 47_o 41_o 49._o as_o baptism_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o all_o and_o only_o those_o that_o come_v into_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o their_o child_n i_o say_v into_o the_o christian_a church_n that_o be_v the_o parent_n come_v in_o at_o least_o into_o the_o universal_a visible_a christian_a church_n by_o confess_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o so_o this_o difference_n pretend_v by_o mr._n t._n between_o baptism_n and_o circumcision_n come_v if_o not_o to_o a_o sameness_n yet_o to_o a_o likeness_n and_o so_o the_o reason_n thus_o far_o apparent_o to_o i_o be_v the_o same_o between_o both_o and_o the_o like_a argument_n may_v be_v draw_v for_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o one_o as_o of_o the_o other_o the_o four_o and_o last_o exception_n mr._n t._n make_v against_o this_o argument_n out_o of_o gen._n 17._o be_v 2._o exercit._fw-la sect._n 1._o p._n 2._o that_o these_o term_n federate_a and_o to_o be_v sign_v be_v not_o convertible_a answ_n they_o be_v convertible_fw-fr jure_fw-la in_o equity_n for_o mr._n t._n will_v not_o doubt_v but_o that_o those_o sign_v with_o circumcision_n gen._n 17._o or_o etc._n etc._n for_o of_o circumcision_n be_v the_o question_n immediate_o now_o according_a to_o mr._n t._n his_o instance_n p._n 4._o l._n 16._o be_v federate_a be_v reckon_v and_o to_o be_v reckon_v in_o the_o covenant_n at_o the_o time_n of_o do_v it_o and_o after_o till_o contrary_a cause_n appear_v and_o all_o federate_a or_o count_v within_o the_o covenant_n be_v to_o be_v sign_v with_o circumcision_n so_o this_o text_n gen._n 17.7_o 8_o 9_o i_o be_o a_o god_n to_o thou_o and_o to_o thy_o seed_n thou_o shall_v keep_v my_o covenant_n therefore_o that_o every_o man-child_n be_v circumcise_v but_o to_o this_o four_o exception_n partic._n exercit._fw-la sect._n 1._o p._n 4._o 1_o partic._n mr._n t._n argue_v that_o some_o there_o be_v 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many_o also_o be_v behead_v and_o many_o burn_v as_o we_o read_v be_v take_v here_o and_o there_o for_o albingensis_fw-la be_v a_o anabaptisticall_a fury_n such_o as_o be_v that_o in_o the_o year_n 1534_o in_o our_o age_n of_o the_o monasterian_a anabaptist_n thus_o far_o out_o of_o the_o chapter_n m._n tomb_n quote_v out_o of_o osiander_n allege_v the_o albingenses_n against_o we_o for_o a_o instance_n that_o the_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant-baptisme_n oppose_v popish_a superstition_n how_o you_o have_v hear_v out_o of_o master_n tomb_n his_o quote_v author_n to_o m._n t._n his_o four_o particular_a of_o those_o place_n of_o tertullian_n and_o gregory_n nazianzen_n 139._o tertull._n p._n 120._o greg._n nazian_n p._n 139._o i_o have_v abundant_o answer_v several_a time_n afore_o chap._n 13_o and_o 14_o of_o our_o animadversion_n and_o elsewhere_o chap._n xxi_o master_n tomb_n his_o eleven_o argument_n against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v 22._o exercit._fw-la §_o 22._o because_o the_o assertor_n of_o infant_n baptism_n little_o agree_v among_o themselves_o upon_o what_o foundation_n they_o may_v build_v infant-baptisme_n cyprian_a and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_n draw_v it_o from_o the_o universality_n of_o grace_n and_o the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n augustine_n bernard_n etc._n etc._n bring_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o reason_n of_o baptise_v infant_n the_o catechism_n in_o the_o english_a liturgy_n put_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o surety_n the_o lutheran_n the_o faith_n of_o infant_n other_o the_o holiness_n of_o a_o believe_a nation_n other_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o next_o parent_n and_o other_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o next_o parent_n in_o covenant_n in_o a_o gather_a church_n we_o answer_v 1_o in_o general_n multaloqueris_fw-la pauc_v a_o dicis_fw-la animad_fw-la animad_fw-la here_o be_v much_o speak_v little_o prove_v we_o have_v but_o one_o quotation_n and_o that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o english_a masse-book_n 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not_o what_o master_n s.m._n say_v that_o by_o baptise_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o mean_v baptism_n with_o water_n and_o those_o anabaptist_n in_o germany_n now_o mention_v in_o cloppenburgius_fw-la and_o by_o spanhemius_fw-la at_o the_o end_n of_o cl●ppenburgius_n where_o you_o have_v the_o history_n of_o they_o say_v john_n baptist_n be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o law_n not_o of_o the_o gospel_n see_v before_o in_o our_o 15_o chap._n 2_o by_o
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