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A95843	The supreme povver of Christian states vindicated against the insolent pretences of Guillielmus Apollonii, or A translation of a book intituled, Grallæ, seu vere puerilis cothurnus sapientiæ, &c. Or, the stilts, or most childish chapin of knowledge upon which William Appolonius of Trever, and minister of the church of Middleburgh boasts, among such as are ignorant, in his patcht rhapsodies, which hee set forth concerning supreame power and jurisdiction in matters of religion. Against the book of the most famous Dr. Nicholaus Vedelius, intituled Of the episcopacy of Constantine the Great.; Grallæ. English.	Vedel, Nicolaus, 1596-1642,	1647 (1647)	Wing V168; Thomason E388_5; ESTC R201503	255,312	305

is of another court to wit carnall and altogether absurd and insociable for this is all his care that he may free himselfe from the power of the sword which he doth exceedingly execrate but I have shewed already that there is no such difference or disparitie between the Civill and Ecclesiastick power but rather conjoyned by God and so coupled that the one cannot subsist without the other but yet so as in marriage the Ecclesiastick must be subject to the Civill as the wife to the husband for the Apostle saith that every soule must be subject to the Civill powers and therefore the Church and Christians who are soules and to whom properly the Apostle wrote this command But I finde no where that every soule must be subject to the Church-Rulers for it were absurd and against Gods Ordination even as if the husband should be forced to be subject to his wife this was Antichrists invention as John fore-told who paints him out as a woman and a proud whore clothed in scarlet Apoc. 12.17 c. armed with a cup and inchanting wine with which she hath so bewitched Emperours and Monarchs that she hath subjected them like beasts to her and sits upon them which we truly see in the Pope who is a Church and indeed a woman and whore with her superstitious devises of sanctity hath so bewitched Princes that laying aside their manly and husband-like strength like uxorious men have given to the Pope and the Whore all the strength of their Dominions and government but he like a Hecuba or imperious Woman hath compelled them not onely to kisse her Thumbe but basely her very feet too a most monstrous thing which rose from this that they cast off the care of Religion and of Church busines at home the Magistrates committed them as if they had nothing at all appertained to them to the Churchmen no otherwise then if the husband should commit the whole busines of the Family to his wife only contenting himselfe with feeding of his own belly or as the Historians report like uxorious Ninus who for three dayes onely gave to his wife Semiramis the command and government of his whole Kingdome but what fell out She presently with rewards delights and diverse cunning wayes did so entice the Peeres of the Kingdome that before the three dayes end Ninus was murthered and the whole Empire came to his Wife so it fell out with those uxorious halfe-men in spirituall things as soon as Princes by their sloth neglect Gods worship and religion or being affrighted from them as not belonging to them with childish feares commit them to Ecclesiastick women the purity of Religion doth not continue long and the Peace of the Civill State is also disturbed which is not onely true in the Popes Dominions but also in some neighbouring Kingdomes of late Apollonius his other demonstrative argument followeth the power of the Magistrate saith he is architectonicall with command and coactive power but the Ecclesiastick power is ministeriall without command for it is said Mat. 20. The Kings of the Gentiles beare rule it shall not be so with you ergo these two powers differ altogether nor can they be mixed In this Argument if any where he playeth the Juggler and Witch as Poysoners use to cover their venemous Medicaments or Pills with gold so doth hee use the Scriptures so the Devill used it by depraving it with a purpose to deceive Christ when hee tempted him First he sets downe a true Maxime that the Magistrates power is Architectonicall which Paul confirmes not onely Rom. 13. but hitherto no man hath questioned it except the old Papists and the Walachrians agreeing with them but that this matter may not lurke in obscurity I will in few words declare wherein this Architectonical power consists This power doth not require that he who possesseth it should or can do all things by himselfe that he should be exempted from all lawes subject to no counsell or reason so Bellarmine speakes injuriously of the civill Power calling it despotical or domineering which power should be barbarous and tyrannicall from this kind of reproaches our Stitewalker can scarce refraine himselfe But the Architectonicall power doth not require that none should be absolutely subject to any except to God For so none should have this power properly except he that had all the Monarchs of the world in subjection to him but there was never yet such a Monarch on earth whence Paul did prophecy well of Antichrist 2 Thes 2. that such should his pride be as that he shall exalt himselfe above all that are called Gods or Monarchs This we see in the Pope who saith that he is subject to none except to God alone and that all Monarchs are subject to him For he obeyes none he commands all saith Bellarmine This power indeed were chiefly Architectonicall but it is seldome or never given therefore the Architectonicall or Supreame power commonly described consisteth in this that one hath chiefe power within his owne precincts subject to none other but on the contrary all are subject to him none excepted so that there he alone can prescribe command and compell with power to punish and force if need be Thus Pharoah describes it when under him he bestowes upon Joseph Architectonicall power over all Aegypt Gen. 41.44 I am Pharoah without thee no man shall lift up his hand or foot in the Land of Aegypt he exempted him not from his owne power nor did he free him from the law and justice but except himselfe he subjected all men and all things to him so God describes the supreame regall power that it had right over their sons and daughters their servants and cattell 1 Sam. 8. finally over the goods of their Subjects not that hee could doe all that he pleased for in this he should doe ill and tyrannically but that he had power according to the rules of justice to take notice of all things to order and put them in execution for so the Lawyers say that there is no Empire without Jurisdiction no Jurisdiction without power of examining judging and executing such is the Architectonicall power which if he understood well and if hee wrote seriously not ironically he confesseth doth belong onely to Magistrates as the title of his book the Right of Majesty sheweth but he mocks Magistrates as I will shew by and by The other member of the antecedent is that Church-men want altogether this Architectonicall power and that therefore the whole power Ecclesiastick should hee Ministeriall and without command which Maxime precisely taken is false because I shewed before that Christ and his Apostles when they ruled the Church had an Architectonicall and supreme power which they exercised in the Church sometimes but not with any externall pompe nor alwayes But it is objected Matth. 20. that Christ said the Kings of the Nations beare rule it shall not be so with you for then they disputed about precedency in Christs

members keepers and nursing fathers of the Church Hence we see how much the Stilt-walker is deceived in thinking Magistrates to be excluded from Church-affaires in this place because of the word Church seeing in the most significations of this word Church the Magistrate is included onely one that excludes him which is not onely devised but is not plainely expressed by Christ how vaine then is this his argument wherein he so much prides himselfe Christ gave this power to the Church but the Magistrate is not the Church for if hee deludes us under the collective name of the Church represented or representing then we grant that the Magistrate is not the Church but so neither is Apollonius the Church except he will call himself the Pope and so this power belongs no more to Apollonius then to the Magistrate but if he speak of the Church as it is indefinitely used by Christ then he cannot make it appeare that Ministers alone are more comprehended under this word then Magistrates alone because both are parts of the Church and the Magistrate in respect of his judicatory power the more excellent part The other error is that out of these words tell the Church the old Papists beat out by a strange paraphrase the whole building of the huge papall Hierarchie as if they would shew that the Pope is Judge of all controversies between Kings the donor and distributer of Lands the Monarch of all Monarchs the infallible censurer and poler of all Nations the dispenser of all wickednesse in others and in himselfe all this they think Christ established in these words tell the Church The Stilt-walker instructed in the same Catechisme out of these words tell the Church doth almost draw out every thing to wit that the Magistrates must not meddle with Church-matters and that they are not within but about and without the Church that they have no power of Vocation making of Lawes or decisive censuring of Ministers but that all these belong solely to Ministers who in this are free and immediately depending on Christ and no way depending on the Magistrate so that if they should faile in their life and manners yet the Magistrate if he be a pious son must not presently rise up against the Minister his Father but he must first wink at his vices and then except in some few cases must not punish him but onely he must procure that Church-men as being specially holy punish the specially holy Minister which is as likely that these Walachrians will do as if you should make Elephants clear one another of their Leprofie These and much more doth he conclude out of these three words tell the Church but indeed this is to make a beame of a mote I rather say that Christ in this place ordained nothing else but that a brother who is willing to be reconciled to his brother which is unwilling should and may for ending the controversie implore the Churches help and in this case the Church ought to help him But what I pray is this for grounding that huge Hierarchie of the Church that she must have absolute power of consecrating excommunicating commanding and such like for if the words following if he heare not the Church let him be to thee as a Publican and Heathen ordain the right of excommunication then Christ bestowes it not there on the Church but on the brother who desires to be reconciled For he doth not say let the Church account or declare that brother for a Publican and Heathen but let him be to thee a Publican and Heathen c. that is as a brother thou may esteem him for a Publican c. if this signifieth to excommunicate then Christ gave the power of excommunication not to the Church but to every private brother that I wonder so proud a Divine should so carelesly weigh his owne lawes out of which he drawes so many priviledges One lie more there rests in this Argument to be shewed in saying that Ministers are immediately subject to Christ and depend from him whence he concludes that they are not subject to the Magistrate but this is a meer fiction for I will aske how shall we know this for I never read it in Scripture he will say that Christ is the immediate Anthor of the Church power because he gave the keyes to the Church he said tell the Church and he gave Apostles Prophets c. out of all which it is manifest that the office or as he calls it the Church power is immediately ordained by Christ I confesse this is truly said of the Church functions and it is no lesse true of the civill power which Christ the Mediator also immediatly established saying give to Caesar what is Caesars to God what is Gods especially when by Paul he hath declared Magistrates to be his Legates and hath subjected to them the Ministers for conscience sake so that now the Civill power depends as well immediately from Christ as the Ecclesiastick But how will hee hence prove that all who use this power that is Ministers and Preachers are immediately subject to Christ and depend from him This is a Popish fiction and an old cheat the falshood whereof any may quickly perceive for if all do immediately depend on Christ who discharge any office which Christ or God hath immediately ordained then all Magistrates Fathers Masters Deacons Readers and whosoever exercise any function ordained by God must depend on him immediately and therefore shall be under the command of none in respect of that function but of God or Christ Which fiction the Stilt-walker will finde in himselfe for if all Preachers be subject to none but to Christ because of their free Ecclesiastick power which they exercise how will their dependencie consist and the spirits of the Prophets be subject to the Prophets For he confesseth that the brothers are subject to the Consistory this to the Classis the Classis to the Synod and the lesser Synod to the greater and so in infinitum I know Apollonius teacheth this onely pro forma because he saith elsewhere that he is onely tied to the authority of the Synod as humane But here I hold him fast intangled in his owne gin for either it is false that Ministers in regard of their Ecclesiastick functions are subject onely to Christ immediately or else it is true that the Consistory Classis and Synods are nothing else but Christ himselfe but this last is blasphemy Ergo the first is most false it 's truly ridiculous to say that he is onely subject to Christ immediately who is subject to so many of which none is Christ So we see this Walachrian is carried every where with a Popish giddinesse Whence now I conclude if it be no wayes against the immediate and fictitious dependencie of Preachers from Christ that they are subject to so many Church-men why should this be a hindrance from being subject to the Civill Magistrate he will say I suppose that this subjection

will be made branches stones trees chickens sheep fish fruits grasse corn and what not Of Preachers and Church-men there will be made not onely Kings Pastors Captaines Housholders as they will have but servants wolves dogs pillars stones bell-ringers pipers walls flames candle-sticks fires and many more to which the Holy Ghost compares them So that if hee should shake the budgets of most abstruse Divinity he cannot compose these things but he shall be laughed at by all This is his errour in that he will out of figurative speeches draw literall conclusions as if out of painted gold he would make a reall crowne of gold Much of this kind he spreads every where chiefly Part 2. p. 28. he doth plainly dispute for the Kingly censuring power of Church-men For saith hee the jurisdiction of the Church is called the right of the keyes and the Churches key is called Davids key which was regall whence he concludes That the jurisdiction of the Church is regall I answer These things are spoken figuratively and to be ascribed to Christ onely if they be taken properly not to the moderne Church which properly wants the keyes of heaven as I shewed elsewhere The chiefe errour is in this that with the Pope he makes of the keyes the Scepter and regall Crowne If all be Kings that have the right of the keyes then the Key-bearers of Temples Cities Hospitalls of Bedlems and of all Cells shall be Kings And whereas he saith that Davids and Christs key is regall and that therefore such is the key of the moderne Church it is all one as if I should say there was a King who carried the keyes of the City therefore all are Kings afterwards who carry those keyes How false this is appeares in Peter who first and properly received these keyes and yet he was a poore Fisher-man not a King Surely if Apollonius had Peters true key yet Christ would forbid in him all Kingly state and pride Mat. 20. saying The Kings of the earth beare rule but it shall not be so with you But Mat. 18. Christ gave to the Church power of judicature which saith he is kingly I answered elsewhere that in this place Christ did not bestow on the Church the right of judicature but only to intercede and to compose differences For the power of judging one to be a Publican or Heathen he gives properly to a Brother not to the Church and so every private man should have regall power Truly if all be Kings that judge there will be innumerable Kings in the same kingdome If Apollonius play not the foole he was a King long since because he carried the keyes and judged many things after his manner His chief argument is out of that place Mat. 28. Christ sending his Disciples to preach speaks first of his regall power saying All power is given to me in heaven and in earth he concludes also from his regall power saying I will be with you till the end of the world thence he gathers That the power not onely of Christ but also of the Church and therefore of Ministers is regall O wonderfull Lindanus indeed and other Papists are ridiculous in their devices but what Jesuite at this day is there of any braine who will not burst with laughter when he shall see and think of these Apollonian scientificall demonstrations to wit that Calvinists by such fictions doe seek after power to reigne in the Church which they have hitherto execrated in the Pope Christ the King of Kings speaking before and after of his Kingly power commanded the Apostles to teach and baptize Ergo he made them Kings and indowed them with Kingly power If Apollonius were as quick-sighted in both his eyes as Lynx he could not see this consequence He reasons thus out of his foolish Dialectick As often as Kings speaking of their Majesty command their Heralds to publish their will and Letters Patents they presently of Heralds become Kings that Herald were worthy of Hellebore who would thus conclude especially if the King in plaine termes should tell his Messenger Although my other servants may command and domineere in their Offices yet I forbid thee to do so neither will I permit thee to reigne for this is the sense of Christs words Mat. 20. The Kings of the Nations beare rule but it shall not be so with you So we need not stay any longer in the Walachrian devices whereas we may every where see that the Pope and Apollonius are both of one minde to wit that they have regall power howsoever Christ and the whole Scripture contradict it but by a Jesuiticall quirk he tells us that their power is not secular carnall or despoticall for these husks he leaves for the Magistrate reserving to himselfe the pure flower of spirituality but Ecclesiasticke holy and celestiall which because it proceeds not from the speciall sanctity of their Church-Discipline as the object nor from the dignity of modern vocation as I have now shewed we must henceforth search into the other lurking holes of the Walachrian Church sanctity least these rattle-mice hide themselves any longer in their under-ground caves of spirituality Therefore having overthrowne the chiefe foundations of the Walachrian sanctity and dominion which are the spirituality of their moderne Discipline and the mysticall sublimity of their calling now I will pursue the Arguments which the Stilt-walker still useth to purchase authority to himselfe among the ignorant which with the Papists he borroweth from the Epithetes and names given to Preachers in Scripture by which he strives to establish his regall majesty in the Church in this playing the canvasse Merchant with Papists which that the Reader may see I will first in generall point at three of his ordinary fallacies 1. In that the most titles are figurative and metaphoricall Fallaciae in titulis out of which he raiseth literall conclusions by which he must needs fall into a thousand absurdities for if this be admitted in Divinity that every one interpret as hee pleaseth figures similitudes and metaphors which are found in Scripture there will be nothing certaine but we may infer any thing out of any thing by this reason I may easily of Apollonius and his other Preachers make stocks stones yea brute beasts for Church-Doctors are called in Scripture Pillars Foundations and watchfull Dogs now we know that Pillars are made of stocks and stumps of trees Foundations of stones and that Dogs are brute and impudent beasts whence the folly of old Papists appears who have erected their whole Hierarchy out of parabolicall and figurative Scripture phrases as famous Marnixius hath merrily demonstrated and because he could find no other new way to set up his regall power therefore the VValachrian Papist walks altogether in his Predecessors foot-steps Apollonius his other errour is that of indefinite Propositions he makes exclusive and understands simply what is spoken respectively this he borrowed also of the Jesuites for Bellarmine commonly thus concludes Christ gave