Christian in such a congregation or a beleeving woman is tied to preach and baptize and yet her pastor Archippus in that congregation is tied both to preach and baptize Secondly the Jews were to separate from B thaven and so are we Thirdly they were not to joyne with Idolaters in Idol-worship neither are we 2 Whereas it is said that it was not lawfull to separate from the Jewish Church because in it did sit the typicall high Priest and the Messiah was to be borne in it and because they were the onely Church on earth but now there be many particular Churches All this is a deception a non causiâ— pro causâ for separation from that Church was not forbidden for any typicall or ceremoniall reason not a shadow of reason can be given from the Word of God for this Because there can be no ceremoniall argument why there should be communion betwixt light and darknesse or any concord betwixt Christ and Belial or any comparting bètwixt the beleever and the infidell or any agreement of the temple of God with idols nor any reason typicall why Gods people should goe to Gilgal and to Bethaven or to be joyned with idols or why a David should sit with vaine persons or goe in to dissemblers or why he should offer the drinke offerings of these who hasten after a strange god or take up their names in his mouth This is then an unwritten tradition yea if Dagon had beene brought into the Temple as the Assyâ—ian altar of Damascus was set up in the holy place the people â—ught to have separated from Temple and Sacrifices both so loâ—g as that abomination should stand in the holy place Nor can it be proved that communicating with the Church of Israel as a member thereof was typicall and necessary to make up visible membership as ceremoniall holinesse is for to adhere to the Church in a sound worship though the fellow-worshippers be scandalous is a morall duty commanded in the second Commandment as to forsake Church-assemblies is a morall breach of that Commandment and forbidden to Christians Hebr. 10. 25. who are under no Law of Ceremonies And it is an untruth that those who were legally cleane and not ceremonially polluted were members of the Jewish visible Church though otherwise they were most flagitious For to God they were no more his visible Israel then Sodome and Gomorrah Isaiah 1. 10. or the children of Ethiopia Amos 9. 7. and are condemned of God as sinning against the profession of their visible incorporation in the Israel of God Jerem. 7. 4 5 6 7. But shall we name and repute them brethren whom in conscience we know to be as ignorant and void of grace as any Pagan I answer That if they professe the truth though they walke inordinately yea and were excommunicated Paul willeth us to admonish thâ—m as brethren 2 Thes. 3. 15. and calleth all the visible Church of Corinth for he writeth to good and bad amongst whom were many partakers of the table of devils pleaders with their brethren before heathen deniers of the resurrection yea those to whom the Gospell was hidden 2 Cor. 4. brethren and Saints by calling But say our brethren to be cast out of the Iewish Church was to be cast out of the Common-wealth as to be a member of the Church and to be a member of the state is all one because the state of the Jewes and the Church of the Jews was all one and none is said to be cut off from the people but he was put to death Answ. Surely Esay 66. vers 5. these who are cast out by their brethren and excommunicated are not put to death but men who after they be cast out live till God comfort them and shame their enemies but he shall appeare for your joy Secondly that the state of Gods Israel and the Church be all one because the Jewish policie was ruled by the judiciall Law and the judiciall Law was no lesse divine then the Ceremoniall Law is to me a wonder For I conceive that they doe differ formally though those same men who were members of the state were members also of the Church but as I conceive not in one and the same formall reason first because I conceive that the State by order of nature is before the Church for when the Church was in a family state God called Abrahams family and by calling made it a Church Secondly the Kingdome of Israel and the house of Israel in covenant with God as Zion and Jerusalem are thus differenced That to be a State was common to the Nation of the Jewes with other Nations and is but a favour of providence but to be a Church is a favour of grace and implieth the Lords calling and chusing that Nation to be his owne people of his free grace Deut. 7. 7. and the Lords gracious revealing of his Testimonies to Jacob and Israel whereas he did not so to every Nation and State Psal. 147. 19 20. but say they The very state of the Iewes was divine and ruled by a divine and supernaturall policie as the judiciall Law demonstrateth to us But I answer Now you speake not of the state of the Jewes common with them to all States and Nations but you speake of such a state and policie which I grant was Divine but yet different from the Church because the Church as the Church is ruled by the morall Law and the Commandments of both Tables and also by the Ceremoniall Law but the Jewish State or Common wealth as such was ruled by the judiciall Law onely which respecteth onely the second Table and matters of mercy and justice and not piety and matters of Religion which concerne the first Table and this is a vast difference betwixt the state of the Jews and the Church Thirdly when Israel rejected Samuel and would have a King conforme to other Nations they sought that the state and forme of governmnent of the Common-wealth should be changed and affected conformity with the Nations in their state by introducing a Monarchy whereas they were ruled by Judges before but in so doing they changed not the frame of the Church nor the worship of God for they kept the Priesthood the whole Morall Ceremoniall and Judiciall Law entire and their profession therein Ergo they did nothing which can formally destroy the being of a visible Church but they did much change the face of the state and civill policie in that they refused God to reigne over them and so his care in raising up Judges and Saviours out of any Tribe and brought the government to a Monarchy where the Crowne by divine right was annexed to the tribe of Judah Fourthly it was possible that the State should remaine entire if they had a lawfull King sitting upon Davids throne and were ruled according to the Judiciall Law but if they should remaine without a Priest and a Law and follow after Baal and change and alter Gods worship as the ten
all of one Church of one Religion Answ. The terme nationall-Nationall-Church is not in the Word of God but I pray you in what sense can the jewish-Iewish-Church bee called a nationall-Nationall-Church I conceive not because of the typicall and ceremoniall observances that put a Church-frame on the whole Nation for if so then the name of a Nationall Church or a nationall Religion cannot by envy it selfe bee put in the reformed Churches or on Church of Scotland which hath suffered so much for Iewish and Romish Ceremonies But if the Jewes were a nationall-Nationall-Church because they were a holy Nation in profession and God called the Nation and made 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a Church externally called to grace and glory and the whole Nation commensurable and of equall extent then all Christian Nations professing the true Faith and the Gentiles as well as the Iewes Then the believing Iewes of Pontus Asia Cappadocia and Bythinia as Augustine Eusebius Oecumenius Athanasius doe thinke that Peter wrote to the Iewes yea and the Gentiles as many interpreters with Lorinus Thomas Lyra and others thinke are yet 1 Pet. 2. 9. an holy Nation and so a Nationall Church and there is no more reason to scoffe at a Nationall Church in this sense then to mocke the holy Spirit which maketh but one Church in all the World Cant. 6. 9. as Cotton Ainsworth and other favorable witnesses to our Brethren confesse And if the Gentiles shall come to the light of the Jewish Church and Kings to the brightnesse of of their rising Esai 60. 3. if the abundance of the Sea shall be converted to the Iewes true Faith and Religion And the forces of the Gentiles shall come to them vers 5. and if all flesh shall see the revealed glory of the Lord Esai 40. 5. and the Earth shall bee filled with the knowledge of God as the Seas are filled with Water It is most agreeable to the Lords Word that there is and shall be a Church through the whole World you may nickname it as you please and call it a VVorld-Religion a VVorld-Church As if the lost and blinded World Ioh. 2. 16 17. 1 Joh. 5. 19. 2 Corin 4. 4. were all one with the Loved Redeemed Pardoned and Reconciled World Ioh. 3. 16. Ioh. 1. 29. 2 Cor. 5. 19. as if wee confounded these two Worlds and the Religion of these two Worlds And if this World could meet in its principall lights neither should an universall councell nor an Oath of the whole Representative Church be unlawfull but enough of this before And what if the World bee subdued to the World and a World of Nations come in and submit to Christs Scepter and royall power in his externall government are the opposers such strangers in the Scriptures as to doubt of this Reade then Esai 60. 4. 5. c. 60. 11 12 13 14 15 v. 4. 5 6 7. Psal. 2. 8 9. Psal. 72. 8. 9. 10. Esai 54. 3. Esai 49. 1. Esai 45. 22. 23. Psal. 110 1 2 3 4 5. and many other places and there is a Kingdome in a Kingdome Christs Kingdome and his Church lodging in a Worldly Kingdome and Christ spiritually in his power triumphing over the World and subduing Nations to his Gospell Object 8. If Classicall Presbyters be not Elders in â—elation to the classicall Church and so to all the Congregations in it yee must forsake all these places where it is said the Elders of Jerusalem the Elders of Ephesus the Angels of the seven Churches which is absurd if they be Elders to all these Churches then 1. All those people in those Churches must submit their consciences to them and their Ministery as to a lawfull ordinance of God 2. All the people of those Churches must have voyce in election of them all 3. All these people owe to theâ—s maintenance and double honor 1 Tim. 5. 17. for if the Oxes mouth must not be muzlâ—d but he must be fed by me and my corne he must tread my corne and labour for me These Churches cannot all meet in one to ordaine and chuse all these Ministers and to submit to their Ministery Answ. The Elders are Elders of Ephesus and Elders of Jerusalem not because every Elder hath a speciall pastorall charge over every Church distributively taken for it was unpossible that one Congregation of all the converts in Ierusalem extending to so many thousands could all beare the relation of a Church to one man as their proper Elder who should personally reside in all and every one of those Congregations to watch for their soules to preach to all and every Congregation 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in season and out of season But they are in cumulo called Elders of Ephesus in that sense that Kings are called the Kings of the Nations not because every King was King of every Nation for the King of Edom was not the King of Babylon and the King of Babel was not the King of Assyria yet amongst them they did all fill up that name to be called the Kings of the Nations so were the Elders of Ierusalem in cumulo collectively taken Elders of all the Churches of Ierusalem collectively taken and as it followeth not that the King of Edom because hee is one of the Kings of the Nations is elected to the Crowne of Caldea by the Voyces of the States and Nobles of Caldea so is it not a good consequence such a number are called the Elders of the Church of Ierusalem therefore the Elder of one Congregation at the Easterne Gate at Ierusalem is also an Elder of a Congregation of the Westerne Gate Nor doth it follow that these two Congregations should submit their consciences to one and the same Elder as to their proper Pastor to whose Ministery they owe consent in Election Obedience in submitting to his Doctrine and mainetenance for his labours all these are due to him who is their owne proper Pastor the as Caldeans owe not Honour Allegiance Tribute to the King of Edom though the Kingdome of Caldea bee one of the Kingdomes of the Nations and the King of Edom one of the Kings of the Nations But if indeede all the Kings of the Nations did meete in one Court and in that Court governe the Nations with common Royall authority and counsell in those things which concerne all the Kingdomes in common then all the Nations were obliged to obey them in that Court as they governe in that Court but no farther and when the people doe consent to the power of that common Court â—â—citly they consent that every one of these shall bee chosen King of such and such a Kingdome and promise also tracitly Obedience and Subjection to every one of the Kings of the Nations not simply as they are Kings in relation to such a Kingdome but onely as they are members of that Court so the Congregations acknowledging and consenting to the classicall Presbytery doe tracitly chuse and consent to the common charge and care that every Pastor hath as hee
Christs body because it is a voluntary act of obedience to Christ that men adjoyne themselves to the visible Church Ergo none can be compelled thereunto by the authoritie of the Magistrate faith may bee counselled it cannot bee compelled For the clearing of this question these considerations are to bee weighed 1. The Magistrate may compell to the meanes and externall acts of worship and to desisting from externall false worship of the false God or of the true God worshipped in a false way hee cannot compell to internall acts of faith love and such like as having no power over the conscience 2. There is one consideration of a Heathen or Pagan nation which never received Christianitie and the true faith and another consideration of a nation baptized and professing Christ. 3. A Magistrate may compell a heathen nation to the negative reverence of Christ in a indirect way and that with the sword though he cannot compell to the positive worshipping of him if a Christian Prince subdue a Pagan nation hee cannot force them with the Sword to a positive receiving of the doctrine of the Gospell but if it bee a nation expressely blaspheming Christ as the nation of the Jewes now do hee may compell them to an abstinence from a professed blaspheming of Christ because he is to use the sword against blasphemy 4. The weapons of the Church as the Church are not carnall but spiritual and mightie through God 5. The compelling power of the Magistrate is terminated upon externall worship as abstracted from either hypocrisie or sinceritie in worship 6. Though no man resist the Magistrate in a matter of religion except in a hypocriticall way save onely he who thinketh hee hath reason 〈◊〉 and is led by the judgement and inditement of conscience to resist â—et is not the in litement of conscience but onely the Word of God â—et rule of mans obedience or resisting in actions purposes conversation 1. Conclusion Fire and sword or warre or the coactive power of a magistrate is not Gods way of planting the Gospell in a heathen nation which never heard of the Gospell before 1. Because the Apostles were commanded by teaching the Gospell to all nations Matth. 28. 19 20. Mark 16. 15. Act. 7. 8. and not by warre to spread the Gospel 2. Because Christs Kingdome is not of this world for then his servants would fight for him Joh. 18. 36. nor are the weapons of our warfare carnall 2 Cor. 10. 4. nor is Christs sword any other thing then the Word of God Rev. 19. 15. Gal. 6. 17. And in this meaning and with relation to the internall acts of sound beleeving have the learned taught us that religio suaderi potest cogi non potest if these bee the constitutions of Clemens let it goe for a truth in this sense that God hath given libertie of will to men not punishing them with temporall death but calleth them to give an account of â—â—eir doings in the life to come which yet cannot bee universally true except that the Author with Anabaptists take away the power of the civill magistrate and Athanasius meaned with us when hee citeth that If any will come after me let him take up his crosse to prove that the will cannot bee compelled and that of Lactantius is approved by all defendenda tamen religioest non occidendo sed moriendo non saevitiâ sed sapientiâ non sâ—â—lere sed fide illa enim malorum sunt baec bonorum necesse est bonum in religione versari non malum Nam si sanguine si tormentis si malo religionem defendere velis jam non defendetur illa fed polluetur violabitur Nihil est tam voluntarium quam religio in qua si animus sacrificantis est eversus jam sublata jam nulla est all which tendeth to this that religion is like free-will and free-will like a Virgin which cannot bee ravished Let that of Tertullian stand Lex nostra non se vindicat ultore gladioâ— Procopius saith that Justinian was blamed because hee compelled the Samaritans to imbrace the Christian faith 2. Conclusion A Christian Prince subduing a heathen Nation may compell them to desist from a negative disâ—onouring of Christ and from an externall false worship Dan. 3. 29. Therefore I make a Decree that every People Nation and Language which speake any thing amisse against the God of Sadrach and Abednego shall be cut in peeces and their houses shall be made a dungâ—ill 2. The Magistrate beareth not the sword for nothing or invaine for he is the minister of God a revenger to execute wrath on those who doe evill Rom. 13. 4. Therefore he should be Gods Minister to execute wrath on those who dishonour Christ. Nor must we approve of that of Tiberius that Gods take care of wrongs dene to themselves and that of the Emperour Alexander it 's sufficient that the breach of an oath hath God to be the revenger Yet the Emperour Constantine commanded all the Churches of the Pagan Gods to be closed up and Ambrose and Augustine both commended the fact and Ferdinand King of Spaine commanded all the Jewes who would not turne Christians to remove out of Spaine 3. Conclus Where a Nation hath embraced the faith and sworne thereunto in Baptisme it is lawfull for the Magistrate to compell them to professe that truth to the which they have sworne in Baptisme 1. Because the Magistrate is a keeper of both Tables of the Law Ergo he may take care that these who are baptized and sworne to be followers of Christ should professe what they have sworne to professe 2. Because the Magistrate may compell ad actus imperatos non ad actus elicitos commanded and externall acts of worship though he have no power over the conscience to command the elicit acts of will and mind 3. He may command to use the meanes of Religion though he cannot force Religion it selfe and this Jehoshaphat Ezechiah Asa and Josiah and other good Kings commanded and in that are set forth to all Princes as patterns of zeale 4. The most pungent argument of our brethren in the contrary is of no weight because say they for one to adjoyn himself to the visible Church in a profession of the faith it is a supernaturall worke of Grace and must be voluntary else the Magistrate should compell men to hypocrisie yea and he should saith Gregorius de Valentia following Cajetanus indirectly concurre to sacriledge to profane the holy things of God and feare of punishment maketh an action against the will secundum quid in some respect and for the point of supernaturality of professing Durandus handleth it Now I say that this is of no weight because as Suarez saith one may be compelled to heare the Word who yet cannot be compelled to beleeve so say I to make such a profession as may constitute any one a member of the visible
but a power to define in Synods and the exercise of acts Ecclesiasticall and matters Ecclesiasticall are due to Ecclesiasticall persons and to the Church Ergo they are not competent to the civill Judge The proposition is evident by differences betwixt Ecclesiasticall persons and civill Magistrates which might be more accurately set downe by others then by me But they differ 1. that the Churches power is spirituall the Magistrates causatively effectively or objectively spirituall but not intrinsecally and formally spirituall because he may command by the power of the sword spirituall acts of preaching administrating the Sacraments purely of defining necessary truths in Synods and forbid the contrary but he cannot formally himselfe exercise these acts 2. The Church-men are members of the Church the Magistrate as such is a politick Father and Tutor of the Church but not formally as he is such a member of the Church 3. The power of the Magistrate is carnall and corporall and coactive upon the bodies for which cause Tylenus Daneus and others say the externall man is the object of his power the power of the Church is spirituall not carnall not coactive not bounded upon the body the Church hath neither power of heading or hanging but onely they may use the sword of the Spirit exhortations rebukes censures excommunication 4. Edification to be procured by the Word and Sacraments and Church-censures is the end of Church-power but edification to be procured by the sword is the end of the civill Magistrate 5. The Magistrate judgeth not what is true and false to be beleeved simply as teaching instructing and informing the conscience but onely what is true and false to be beleeved or professed in relation to his sword and bodily punishment or civill rewards 6. The Magistrates judgement is kingly supreame peremptory and highest on earth from which we are to provoke in no sort except in appealing to God the Churches judgement is ministeriall conditionall limited by the Word of God 7. The Magistrates power is over all Heathen and Christian over men as men and over men as Christians and agreeth to Heathen and Christian Magistrates alike the Church power agreeth onely to members of the Church and is onely over members of the Church as they are such 8. What ever causes the Magistrate handleth as hurtfull to the Common-wealth and contrary to the Law of God in a politicke and civill way these same the Churches handleth as they promote edification or if they be sinnes the Church cognosceth of them sub ratique scandali as they are Church scandals 9. The civill power is above the Church-men as they are Church-men and members of a Christian Common-wealth and the Church power is above the Magistrate as he is a member of the Church and to be edified to salvation or censured for scandals Matth. 18. 17. 2 This. 15. 13. 1 Tim. 5. 20. and therefore there is both a mutuall subordination betwixt the honors and also because both are highest and most supreme in their â—ind they are also coordinate and two parallel supreme powers on earth as the Church hath no politick power at all so hath the Church no politick power above the King but he is the onely supreme power on earth immediate under God so the King hath no power formally and intrinsecally ecclesiasticall over either the Church or any member of the Church but the Churches power is supreme under Christ the King and head of the Church 10. The Churches power may be without the Magistrate and is compleat both in being and operation as Acts 1. 1. and Acts 15. 1 2. 1 Cor. 5. 1 2 3 4. without it yet it is helped much by the Magistrates power which is cumulative to ad help to the Church and not privative to take away any right or priviledge from the Church for then the Church should be in worse case and greater bondage under a Christian King then if there were no King to defend the Church at al if the Kings power were privative and it is true the Churches own power is cumulative not privative because the Church hath no power to take nothing from it selfe but the King is to adde his royall â—â—ield to the Bride of Christ out of zeale to the honour of the Bridegroome for a politick promoving of godlinesse which the Church as such wanteth But the kingly power though it may be and is in Heathen Nations perfect in its being without the Church power yet is it not perfect in its operations as is said 11. The Church power is to goe before and to define prescribe and teach first and the civill power to adde a civill sanction thereunto as an accumulative and auxiliary supplement 12. The Magistrate hath no power properly to define controversies yet hath he the power of the judgement and discretion and also may with a coactive power cognosce in a politick way of Church matters in reference to the use of the sword but the Church as the Church hath a ministeriall power 〈◊〉 to define controversies according to the Word of God 13. Every one helpeth another to obtaine their owne ends but hey cannot be contrary one to another formally yet doe these differences prove that the Magistrate as such cannot detine in a Synod what is truly to be beleeved and practised by members of the Church what not And also godly Princes have refused this Hosius Cordubensis writeth to Constantius the Arrian Emperour which words Athanasius commendeth Desine desine quaeso memineris te mortalem esse reformida diâ—m judiâ—ii neque te immisecas eco'esiasticis nec nobis in hoc genere praecipe seâ—eâ— potius a nobis disce tibi autem dâ—us imperiunâ— commisit nobis autem quae sunt ecclesiae concredidit Ambrosius epist. 14. ut alii 33. ad Marcellinam sororem dicit se Valentiniano dicere Nolite gravare imperator ut â—uâ—es te in e t quae divina sunt imperiale jus habere noli te extollere sed si vis divinitus imperare esto c. subditus ad imperatorem palatia pertinent ad sacerdotem ecclesia publicorum tibi maenium jus ancessum est non sacrorum Augustin Epist. 48. 162. Neque ausus est Christianus imperator sic eorum Donaristarum tumultuosas et fallaces querelas suscipere ut de judicio Episcoporum qui Romae sederent ipse judicaret 16. iis ipse imperator cessit ut de illa causa post Fpiseopos ipse judicaret a sanctis antistitibus postea veniam petitucus Chrysost. hom 4. 5. de verbis Esa. Qumquam admirandus videtur thronus regius tamen rerum terrenarum administrationem sortitus est nee praeter potestatem hanc praetere â—quicquam autoritatis habet Leontius Tripolis Lydiae Episcopus cum Constantius in eonventu Episcoporum multa praescriberet Miror inquit qui fiat ut aliis curandis destinatus alia tractes qui cum rei militari et reipublicae praesis Episcopis ea praescribas quae ad
should call Christs doctrine blasphemy Caesar and his deputie Pontius Pilat as Judges civill are to judge it truth Neither would I â—â—iâ—â—â—ly here contend for whether the Kings knowledge of herese in the major proposition bee judiciall or the knowledge of discretion onely as some say wee agree in this against Papistâ— that the King is not a blind servant to the Church to punish what the Church calleth heresie without any examination or tryall but though the Kings knowledge of heresie in the proposition and in Law bee judiciall and kingly yet because hee is to cognosce onely in so farre as hee is to compell and punish with the sword not by instructing and teaching It would not hence follow that hee is to make Church constitutions as King but onely that hee may punish those who maketh wicked constitutions because the Canon maker is a ministeriall teacher the King as King may command that hee teach truth and hee may punish hereticall teaching but as King he is not a teacher either in Synod or Senate in Pulpit or on the Throne now if the King by office ordaine Pastors and deprive them by office hee is to know who are able to teach others aâ—d must bee able also to stop the mouthes of the adversaries and to rebuke them sharpely that they may bee sound in the faith and this is required in Titus Ch. 1. 5 9 10 11 12 13. as a Pastor and as an ordainer of other Pastors therefore that which is required of a Pastor by his office must also bee required to bee in the King by his office 6. It is admirable that they give to Kings power to deprive ministers but with these distinctions 1. He may not discharge them to preach and administer the Sacraments but to preach and administer the Sacraments in his kingdome or dominions because the King hath a dominion of places 2. Hee may discharge the exercise of the ministery but hee cannot take away the power of order given by the Church 3. Hee may deprive say some by a coactive and civill degradation because the supreme magistrate may conferre all honours in the Christian common-wealth Ergo hee may take them away againe but hee cannot deprive by a canonicall and ecclesiasticall degradation 4. Hee may causâ—tively deprive that is compell the Church to deprive one whom he judgeth to bee an heretick and if the Church refuse hee may then in case of the Churches erring and negligence as King deprive himselfe But I answer the King as King hath dominion civill of places and times as places and times but not of places as sacred in use and of times as sacred and religious for his power in Church matters being accumulative not privative hee cannot take away a house dedicated to Gods service no more then hee can take away maintenance allotted by publick authority upon Hospitalls Schooles Doctors and Pastors God hath here a sort of proprietie of houses and goods as men have Places as sacred abused are subject to regall power hee may inhibit conventions of hereticks 2. The Apostles might preach in the Temple though civill authoritie forbid them 3. Kings are as much Lords of places as sacred and publick as they have a dominion of civill places in respect the King may be coactive power hinder that false and hereticall doctrine bee preached either in publick or private places for this hee ought to doe as a preserver of both tables and a beare of the Sword for the good of Religion and if they may command pure doctrine to bee preached and sound discipline to be exercised they may command the same to bee done in publick places The second distinction is not to purpose 1. To discharge the exercise of a ministery saith Calderwood is a degree of suspension and suspension is an ecclesiasticall degree to the censures of excommunication and therefore the King may as well excommunicate and remit and retaine sinnes which undoubtedly agreeth to the Apostles as hee can suspend 2. As for taking away the power of order it is a doubt to formalists if the Church can doe that at all seeing they hold Sacraments administred by ministers justly deprived to bee valid Ergo they must acknowledge an indeleble character in Pastors which neither King nor Church can take away If then the King deprive from the exercise hee must simpliciter deprive by their grounds it is weake that they say the King may deprive from the exercise of a ministry within his owne dominions for saith Calderwood they all know well that the King hath not power to deprive men from the exercise of the holy ministery in ether forraine Kingdomes For the third way of deprivation it hath a double meaning also 1. If the meaning bee that as the King by a regall and coactive power may take away all honours either civill or ecclesiasticall as hee giveth all honours then this way of depriving Ministers cannot bee given to the King for the King may give and take away civill honours for reasonable causes according to the Lawes But in ecclesiasticall honours there bee three things 1. The appointing of the honour of the office to bee an Ambassadour of Christ. 2. To give the true foundation and reall ground of a Church honour that is gifts and gracious abilities for the calling neither of these two doe come either from King or Church or from mortall men but onely from Jesus Christ who ascending on high gave gifts unto men and appointeth both office and giveth grace for to discharge the office Yea since morall philosophy maketh honor to bee praemium 〈◊〉 a reward of vertue the King doth not give that which is the soundation of honour civill for civill vertue is a grace of God but in Church honour there is a third to wit a deâ—â—â—deâ—â—â—nation of a qualified man for the sacred office of the ministry and an ordination by the imposition of hands used in the Apostolick Church Act. 6. 6. Act. 13. 3. Act. 14 23. 1 Tim. 4 14. 1 Tim. 5.22 Whether imposition of hands bee essentiall to ordination or not I disput not it is apostolick by practise yet there is something ecclesiasticall as praying of Pastors and an ecclesiasticall designation of men or the committing of the Gospell to faithfull men who are able to teach others 2 Tim. 2. 2. 1 Tim. 5. 22. No Scripture can warrant that the King ordaine Pastors by publick praving by laying on of hands or ecclesiasticall blessing or by such an ordination as is given to Timothy and the Elders of the Church Acts 13. 3. Acts 14. 23. Tit. 1. 5,6 7,8 9. 1 Tim. 4. 14. 1 Tim. 5. 22. 2 Tim. 2. 2. If any say the King hath a publick and regall power in ordaining of Ministers and so in dâ—priving them or a mixt power partly regall partly ecclesiasticall as hee is a mixt person and the Church hath their way of purely and unmixt ecclesiasticall calling or ordaining of Ministers or the Church and the Magistrate
act of justice at the direction of a Minister commanding him in Gods name to execute judgement impartially yet the King doth not an act of justice in the name and authority of the Church And that is true which Beâ—anus saith What the instrument doth the principall cause may do where the Vicar or Deputy and the principall substitutâ—r of the Vicar are both civill persons or are both Ecclesiasticall persons for in a large and unproper sense the nurse is a sort of deputy under the nurse father the Father may take care that the nurse give milke and wholsom milke to his child yet cannot the Father give milke himself The King may take care actu imperato as one intending in a Kingly way that Christs body bee edifyed that the Priests and Prophets feed with knowledge the Church and sister of Christ and so are the Priests under the King and at his command to feed and to feed with wholsome food the flocke and in obedience to the King all are to do their duty and his care is universall over all and his end universall That which is the end of Pastors Doctors Elders Deacons Lawyers Judges c. is in an universall intention the Kings end even Gods honor by pâ—â—curing in a regall way that all do their duty in keeping the two Tables of the Law and so is hee the great politick wheel moving by his royall motions all the under wheeles toward that same end yet cannot the King without sinne and being like a Bird wandring from her nest do that which is properly Pastorall so that the Office is not subordinate to him but immediately from God yet are the operations of the Office and to Preach tali modo diligently sound Doctrine subordinate to him but in a generall and universall way as hee is a kingly mover of all to keep the two Tables of the Law Neither did the King as Suarez saith one and the same way appoint both the High Priest and the civill Judge And Cajetan saith he decerneth the two chiefe heads of Church and Common-wealth but hee appointed not both for God appointed Amariah to bee High Priest and not the King but here is nothing to prove the Kings headship Asa reformed the Church and renewed the Covenant Ezekiaâ— reformed Religion also and brake in peeces the Brazen Serpent and all these in the case of universall apostasie and the corruption of the Priest-hood did reforme the Lords house breake in peeces graven Images but all this giveth to them no mixt Ecclesiasticall power of making Canons of ordaining and depriving Pastors Whereas some object That the care both of temporall good and spirituall good belongeth to the Magistrate therefore hee must have a power to make Church Laws See Pareus For his care cannot bee supreme if hee must rule at the nod and beck of Church-men I Answer the connexion is weak hee who hath the care of both the temporall and spirituall good of the people hee hath a nomothetick power to procure both these two goods it followeth no way for then might hee have a power in his own person to Preach and administrate the Sacraments this power procureth the spirituall good but such as is the care such is the power the care is politick and civill Ergo the power to procure the spirituall good must bee politick and civill 2. Neither is the King to do all at the nod and direction of the Priesthood blindly and without examination That is the blind doctrine of Papists wee hold that hee hath a regall power to examine if the Decrees of the Church bee just Orthodox and tend to edification For hee is the Minister of God for good and to take vengeance on evill doing And there is no just obligation to sinne hee is not obliged to punish with the sword well-doing but evill doing and the Church can oblige the Magistrate to do nothing but that which in case there were no Church Law and in case of the Churches erring hee should doe 2. They object He to whom every soule is subject he hath a power to make Church Laws about all good but all and every soule without exception of Apostles or Church-men is subject to the civill Magistrate Ergo. The proposition is proved from the Law of relatives for he to 〈◊〉 we are subject he may give Lawes unto us for our gâ—â—d See Pareus Answ. He to whom we are subject may give any Lawes or command any manner of way for our good I deny the proposition in that sense for then he might in the Pulpit preach the Commandements of God for our good He might give Laws under the paine of excommunication It is enough that he may give Laws by sanction and civill enacting of Church Laws and pressing us by the power of the Sword to doe our duty for the attaining of a spirituall good He to whom we are subject he may give Laws that is presse in a coactive way obedience to Laws that is most true but it proveth not a nomothetick power in the King 3. They object What ever agreeth to the Kingly power concerning the good of Subjects by the Law of Nations that doth farre more agreeth Kings by the Law of God For the Law of God doth not desir 〈…〉 â—e Law of Nations But by the law of Nations a care 〈◊〉 Religion belong th to the King for Religion by the Law of nature is indâ—â—ed and brought in by the Law of Nations As Cicero saith And therefore to a Christian Kingly power the care of Religion must be due Answer we grant all for a care in a civill and politick way belongeth to the Christian Prince but a care by any meane whatsoever by Preaching or by making Church Canons is not hence proved by no light of nature or Law of Nations in an ecclesiasticall care of Religion due to the Christian Prince but onely in a politick and civill way 4. All beleevers even private men may judge of Religion not onely by a judgement of apprehension but also of discretion to try what Religion is true and to be holden and what is false and to be rejected Ergo farre more may the Christian Magistrate definitively judge of Religion so he doe it by convenient meanes such as are sound and holy Divines and the rule of Gods word The consequence is proved because the faithfull Prince hath supreame power which is nâ—mothetick and a power to make Lawes Answer it is true all private beleevers may try the Spirits whether they be of God or not but hence we may as well conclude therefore Princes may preach and administer the Sacraments as therefore the Prince may define matters ecclesiasticall For a eivill coactive power giveth to no man an ecclesiasticall power except he be called thereunto as Aaron was 2. The meanes alleadged are the judgement of holy and pious Divines and the word of God but Moses whom they alleadge for a patterne of a civill ruler who
THE Due right of Presbyteries OR A PEACEABLE PLEA FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE Church of Scotland Wherein is examined 1. The way of the Church of Christ in New England in Brotherly equality and independency or coordination without subjection of one Church to another 2. Their apology for the said Government their Answers to thirty and two Questions are considered 3. A Treatise for a Church Covenant is discussed 4. The arguments of Mr. Robinson in his justification of separation are discovered 5. His Treatise called The peoples Plea for the exercise of prophecy is tryed 6. Diverse late arguments against presbyteriall government and the power of synods are discussed the power of the Prince in matters ecclesiastical modestly considered divers incident controversies resolved By SAMUEL RUTHERFURD Professor of Divinity at Saint Andrewes CANT 6. 10. Who is she that looketh forth as the morning faire as the Moone cleare as the Sun and terrible as an Army with Banners 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 LONDON Printed by E. Griffin for Richard Whittaker and Andrew Crook and are to be sold at their Shops in Pauls Church-Yard 1644. TO The most Noble and Potent Lord Archbald Marquesse of Argile one of His MAJESTIES honourable Privy Councell wisheth Grace Mercy and Peace WHo knoweth most Noble and potent Lord how glorious it is and how praise-worthy when the mighty and these who are called The shields of the Earth and the Cedars of Lebanon cast their shadow over the City of God Airie wits and broken spirits chase fame but fame and glory shall chase him who is as the spirit of God speaketh 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a Sonne of courage and one who hath done many acts for the Lord. The followers of Christ are the sonnes of Nobles All blood is of one colour holinesse maketh the difference Fortuna vitrea est tum cum splendet frangitur Things we rest on here be made of cristall glasse while they glister they are broken Plures tegit fortuna quam tutor facit The world may cover men it cannot make them secure But the Lord is a Sun and a shield What hath Jesus Christ on Earth which he loveth as he doth his Church What a created peece is the true Church A woman clothed with the Sunne and the Moone under her feet and upon her head a Crowne of twelve Starres Her very servants are the glory of Christ. Yet is this poore woman in Brittaine crying travelling in birth pained while shee be delivered because of the Idolatry of the Land and our defection and apostacy practised countenanced tolerated in both Kingdomes Many graves many Widowes and the Land turned into a field of blood are the just fruits of many Altars of Masse-idolls of Bread worship of many inventions of men let then have a name and flourish in the House of the Lord and let them be written with the living in Jerusalem who contribute help for the desired birth of the manchild Prelacy and Popery wither as in a Land of drought except they be planted beside Rivers of blood but the Lord shall build his own Jerusalem Your honour may justly challenge this little expression of my obliged respects to your Lordship I acknowledge it is little though it may have some use Etiam capillus unus habet umbram suam one haire casteth its owne shadow Jmpotency to pay debt layeth not upon any the note of unthankfulnesse except it be impotency of good will If I be not a debter for will I am nothing And this I owe and this Church and Nation may divide the sum with me for which wishing to your Lordship all riches of Grace I stand obliged Your Lordships servant at all dutifull observance in Christ Jesus Samuel Rutherfurd To the Reader THere be two happy things worthy Reader as one sayth The one is not to erre the other is to escape from the power of error Times wombe bringeth forth many truths though truth be not a debter to Time because Time putteth new robes on old Truth But truth is Gods debter and oweth her being to him only It is a great evil under the Sun and the sicknesse of mans vanity that the name of holy men should be a web to make garments of for new opinions but the errors of holy men have no whitenesse nor holinesse from men And it is a wrong that mens praise should be truths prejudice and mens gaine truths losse Yet I shall heartily desire that men herein observe the art of deep providence for the Creator commandeth darknes to bring forth her birth of light and God doth so over-aw with a wise super-dominion mens errors that contrary to natures way from collision of opinions resulteth truth and disputes as stricken flint cast fire for light God raising out of the dust and ashes of errors a new living truth What mistakes errors or heresies have been anent Church government that vigilant and never slumbering wisdome of Providence hath thence made to appeare the sound doctrine of Gods Kingdome So here Satan shapeth and God seweth and maketh the garment Error is but dregs by the artifice of all compassing Providence from whence are distilled strong and cordiall waters And what Antichrist hath conceived for a Hierarchy and humane ceremonies hath put Christ in his two witnesses in Brittaine to advocate for the truth and native simplicity of his own Kingdom But I heartily desire not to appeare as an adversary to the holy reverend and learned Brethren who are sufferers for the truth for there be wide marches betwixt striving and disputing Why should we strive for we be Brethren the Sonnes of one father the borne Citizens of one mother Ierusalem To dispute is not to contend We strive as we are carnall we dispute as we are men we war from our lusts we dispute from diversity of star-light and day-light Weaknesse is not wickednesse a roving of wit must not be deemed a Rebellion of will a broken inginne may part with a dead child and yet be a Mother of many healthy children And while our reverend and deare Brethren fleeing the coast of Egypt and Babylons wicked borders aym to shore upon truth wind may deceive good Sailors naturall land-motions as when heavy bodies move downward toward their own clay Countrey are upon a straight line But Sea-motions of sailing are not by right lines but rather by Sea-circles We often argue and dispute as we saile Where grace and weight of Scripture make motion we walke in a right line toward God But where opinion a messenger only sent to spie the Land of lies and truth usurpeth to conduct us what marvell then we goe about truth rather then lodge with Truth And Christ his Kingdome Scepter Glory Babylons fall be the materiall object of opinions on both sides And yet the word of God hath a right lith that cannot suffer division In Gods matters there be not as in Grammar the positive and comparative degrees there are not
the King Judgeth by them and in them 2. This error is founded upon a worse error to wit that the supreme Magistrate had no power of life and death in Israel without consent of the people but certainly there are as specious and plausible reasons if not more specious for the peoples government in all civill matters then there can be for their Church-power of judging in the Church-matters and government therof Yet there is no ground for it 1. Because the Rulers only could not be charged to execute judgement in the morning to deliver the oppressed to execute judgement for the Fatherlesse and the VViddow nor can there be a promise made to establish the Kings Throne for obeying that Commandement as a Gods Word teacheth if the people have as great yea greater power in Judging then the Rulers have by this our Brethrens argument They say all the Believers at Corinth 1 Cor. 5. could not be commanded to cast out the incestuous person nor could they all be taxed for omitting that duty if they had not power to excommunicate 2. Neither can the Spirit of God complaint that the Judges builded Zion with blood and the heads of the house of Jacob and Princes of the house of Israel did abhor judgement and pervert equity as the Prophets say nor could they be condemned as roaring Lyons and evening Wolves as the Prophet sayth for the Judgeâ— might well be faultlesse when the poore were crushed in the Gate and Judgement turned into Gall and Wormewood because they cannot helpe the matter the people are the greatest part in caring matters in judgement 2. We see Davids practise in condemning the Amalckite out of his own confession not asking the peoples consent and in condemning to death Baanah and Rehab for killing Ishbosheth Solomon gave sentence against Adoniiah Ioab Shimei without consent of the people David pardoned Shimei contrary to the counsell of Zerviahs sons 3. If from the peoples witnessing and hearing of judgement in the Gate we conclude the people were Judges with the Rulers there was never a time when there was no King in Israel and no Iudge to put evill doers to shame but every man did what seemed good in his own Eys contrary to Scripture because all are a generation of Kings and Princes no lesse then the Ruler himselfe as Anabaptists teach By the Doctrine of our brethren I deny not but he that gathered stickes on the Sabbath was brought Num. 15. 33. to Moses and to Aaron and to all the Congregation but the Congregation signifieth not the common multitude For 35. Moses received the sentence from God and pronounced it and the Congregation stoned him to death And Numb 27. 1. The Daughters of Zelophehad stood before Moses Eleazar and before the Princes as Iudges and before all the Congregation as witnesses not as Judges but v. 6. 7. Moses gave out the judiciall sentence from the Lords mouth And 1 King 21. 12. Naboth stood in presence of the people to be judged but the Nobles and Princes were his Judges because v. 8. Iezabel wrote to the Nobles and Princes that v. 10. they should carry out Naboth and stone him to wit judicially and v. 11. The Nobles and Princes did as Iezabel had sent unto them And Ieremiah cap. 26. pleaded his cause before the Princes and people for v. 10. The Princes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Set down judicially in the entry of the new gate of the Lords House nothing can be gathered from the place to prove that the people judged but because Ieremiah spake to the Princes and the people who vers 24 were in a fury and rage against Ieremiah if Ahikam had not saved him from their violence CHAP. 4. SECT 4. QUEST 5. WHether there be no nationall or provinciall Church under the New Testament but only a parishionall Congregation meeting every Lords day in one place for the worship of God The Author in this first proposition denieth that there is any Nationall or provinciall Church at all under the New Testament for clearing of the question observe these 1. Dist. VVe deny that there is any diocescan provinciall or Nationall Church under the care of one Diocesan or Nationall Prelate or Bishop but hence it followeth not there is no visible instituted Church now but only a particular Congregation 2. Dist. VVe deny any Nationall typicall Church where a whole Nation is tyed to one publick worship in one place as sacrificing in the Temple 3. Dist. VVe deny not but the most usuall acception of a Church or visible meeting is given as the refutator of Tylenus sayth to a convention of people meeting ordinarily to heare the word and adminstrate the Sacraments Stephanus deriveth it from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And Cyrillus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 As Causabon observeth so these who meete at one Sermon are called Ecclesia a Church and it is called Ecclesia concio sayth the Refutator of Tilen but this hindreth not the Union of more particular Congregations in their principall members for Church-government to be the meeting or Church representative of these many united Congregations 4. Dist. A Parish-Church materiall is a Church within such locall bounds the members whereof dwell contiguously togegether one bordering on the other our Brethren meane not of such a Church for as Paâ—â— Baynes sayth well this God instituted not because a company of Papists and Protestants may thus dwell together as in a Parish and yet they axe of contrary Churches a Parish-Church formally is a multitude who meete in manner or forme of a Parish as if they dwelt neere together in a place ordinarily to worship God as the 〈◊〉 of those who came together to celebrate the Lords Supper is called the Church 1 Cor. 11. 18. For first of all when ye come together in the Church I heare that there are divisions amongst you 〈◊〉 what have ye not houses to eat and drink in or despise ye the Church of God 1. Concl. If we shall evince a Church-visible in the Now Testament which is not a Parishionall Church we evince this to be false which is maintained by our Brothren that there is no visible instituted Church in the New Testament save onely a Parishionall Church or a single independent Congregation But this Church we conceive to have been no Parishionall Church 1. Because these who met dayly and continued with one accord in the Temple and breaking bread from house to house that is administrating the Sacraments together as our Brethren say were a visible Church But these being first an hundred and twenty as Acts 1. and then three thousand added to them Acts 2. 41. could not make all one single independent Congregation whereof all the members had voyce in actuall government Ergo they were a visible instituted Church and yet not a Parishionall Church The proposition is cleare The Church of Ierusalem was one visible Church and did exercise
together a visible act of government in sending messengers to 〈◊〉 Acts 15. 22. Then pleased it the Apostles and Elders and the whole Church our Brethren say the whole collective Church Men Women and Children at Ierusalem to send men of their own company to Antioch 23. And wrote Letters and some Decrees and Commandements to be observed Now the many thousands of the Church of Ierusalem by no possibility could meete aâ— one Parish in one materiall house to administrate the Lords Supper farre lesse could they be as is said Acts 2. 42. all continuing stedfastly in the Apostles Doctrine and followship our Brethren say in Pâ—rishionall or Congregationall fellowship and in breaking of bread and prayer nor could they dayly continue in the Temple and breake bread from house to house being all one Church or a fixed parishionall meeting in one materiall house Now it is cleare they were 〈◊〉 even after they exceeded many thousands in number in one Parishionall and Congregationall government as our Brethren would prove from Acts 15 22 23 24 25. And Acts 2. 42 43. Else how could they have all their goods common if there be not one visible government amongst them but this government could not be of one single Congregation for all who sold their goods and had all things common could not meete to give voyces in Discipline a judicatory of so many thousand Judges were impossible and ridiculous 2. Paul writeth to the Galatians where there were many Parish Churches Gal. 1. 2. as our Brethren teach yet doth he write to them as he doth to the Corinthians where our Brethren will have one Parish Church and writeth to them of uniformity of visible government that they meete not together to keepe dayes Sabbaths and yeers Gal. 4. 10. as the Iewes did that they keep not Iewish and ceremoniall meetings and conventions Gal. 4. 9. these Churches are called one lumpe in danger to be leavened as Corinth is a Parishionall lumpe in hazard to be leavened as our Brethren teach Now how could Paul will them that the whole lump of all the Churches and Congregations in Galatia be not leavened except he lay down a ground that they were with united authority to joyne in one visible government against the false Teachers suppose there were twenty sundry Kings in Brittaine and twenty Kingdoms could our friends over Sea write to us as to one Nationall lump to beware of the Spanish faction except they laid down this ground that all the twenty little Kingdomes had some visible union in Government and might with joynt authority of all the twenty Kingdomes concurre to resist the common Enemie Here that godly and learned Divine Mr. Baynes sayth Communion in government is not enough to make them one Church this sayth he maketh them rather one in tertio quodam separabili in a third thing which may be separated then one Church Government being a thing that commeth to a Church now constituted and may be absent the Church remaning a Church I answer this is a good reason against the Prelates Dioceseâ—n Church which as Baynes sayth well is such a frame in which many Churches are united with one head Church under one Lord prelate common Pastor to all the Pastors and particular Congregations of the Diocese as part aking of holy things or at least in that power of government which is in the chiefe Church for all the others within such a circuit Now the prelâ—tes frame of a properly so called Church under one Pastor being a Creature with a hundred heads having Church and pastorall care of a hundred little Congregations and Churches is a dreame for we know no such Church fed by a Prelate nor no such prelaticall Argos to oversee so many flocks nor doe we contend that the many Congregations united in a presbyteriall government doe make a mysticall visible Church meeting for all the Ordinances of God But union of many Congregations in a visible government is enough to make all these united Churches one visible ministeriall and governing Church who may meete not in one collective body for the worship of God yet in one representative body for government though worship may be in such a convened Church also as we shall heare The name of the Church I thinke is given to such a meeting Mat. 18. 17. Acts 15. 22. though more usually in Scripture the Church is a fixed Congregation convened for Gods worship now government is an accident separable and may goe and come to a mysticall Church but I thinke it is not so to a Ministeriall governing Church So the Church of Ephesus is called a Church in the singular number Rev. 2. 1. and all the Churches of Asia Rev. 1. 20. but seven Churches and Christ directeth seven Epistles to these seven and writeth to Ephesus as to a Church having one government v. 2. Thou hast tryed them which say they are Apostles and are not and hast found them lyers This was Ecclesiasticall tryall by Church-Discipline yet Ephesus contained more particular Congregations then one 1. Because Christ speaking to Ephesus only sayth v. 7. He that hath an Earâ— to heare let him heare what the spirit sayth unto the Churches in the plurall number 2. Because there were a good number of preaching Elders in Ephesus Acts 20. 28. 36. 37. and it is incongruous to Gods dispensation to send a multiude of pastors to over see ordinarily one single and independent Congregation 3. This I have proved from the huge multitudes converted to the Faith in Ephesus so huge and populous a City where many Iewes and Greeks dwâ—lâ— and where the Word of God grew so mighâ—â—ly Acts 19. 17 18 19 20. and Christ writeth to every one of the seven Churches as to one and yet exhorteth seven times in every Epistle that Churches in the plurall number heare what the spirit sayth Now as our Brethren prove that the Churches of Galatia so called in the plurall number were many particular Churches so doe we borrow this argument to prove that every one of the seven Churches who are seven times called Churche in the plurall number contained many Congregations under them yet doth Christ write to every one of the seven as having one visible Government 2. Concl. A nationall typicall Churchâ— was the Church of the Iewes we deny But a Church nationall or provinciall of Cities Provinces and Kingdomes having one common government we thinke cannot be denyed so Paul Baynes citeth for this 1 Pet. 1. 1. 1 Pet. 5. 2. Though we take not the Word Church for a my sticall body but for a ministeriall company But Acts 1. Matthias was elected an Apostle by the Church as our Brethren confesse but not by a particular Congregation who met every Lords-Day and in ordinary to partake of all the holy things of God the Word and Sacraments 1. Here were the Apostles whose Parish Church was the whole World Mat. 28. 19. Goe teach all Nations 2. In this Church were the brethren of Christ
Church communion amongst all the visible Churches on Earth Ergo de jure and by Christ his institution there is an universall or catholick visible Church I prove the antecedent 1. Because there ought to be mutuall fellowship of visible Church-duties as where there is one internall fellowship because Eph. 4. 4. we are one body one spirit even as we are called in one hope of our calling v. 5. one Lord on Father one Baptisme v. 6. one God and Father of all There also should there be externall fellowship and Church fellowship of exhorting rebuking comforting and Church-praying and Church-praising in the behalfe of all the visible Churches on earth even for those whose faces we never saw Coloss. 2. 1. and when one nationall Church falleth away the visible Churches of the Christian world are obliged to rebuke and to labour to gaine such a Church and if she will not be gained to renounce all the foresaid communion with such an obstinate Nation 2. As the Apostles had one publicke care of all the Churches and accordingly kept visible fellowship as they had occasion to preach write to them pray and praise God for them so this care as Apostolick I grant is gone and dead with the Apostles but the pastorall and Church-care and consequently acts of externall fellowship are not dead with the Apostles but are left in the Church of Christ for what Church-communion of visible fellowship members of one particular congregation keepe one with another that same by due proportion ought nationall Churches to keepe amongst themselves 3. This is cleare Act. 1. where particular Churches with the Apostles did meete and take care to provide a Pastor and an Apostle Matthias for the whole Christian Church and why â—ut particular Churches are hereby taught to confer all Church-authority that God hath given them for the rest of the visible Churches and the Churches conuened in their speciall members Acts 15. 12. extended their Church-care in a Church-communion of Ecclesiastick canons to all the visible Churches of the Jewes and Gentiles Hence Oecumenick and generall councells should be jure divino to the second comming of Christ Neither need we stand much on this that our Brethren say that one Catholick visible Church is a night dreame because no Church is visible save only a particular congregation the externall communion whereof in meeting in one materiall house ordinarily and partaking of the same word and Sacraments doth incurre in our senses whereas a Church communion and visible fellowship with the whole Christian Churches on Earth is impossible and no wayes visible But I answer if such a part of the Sea the Brittish Sea be visible then are all the Seas on earth visible also though they cannot all come in one mans senses at one and the same time so if this Church particular be visible then all the Churches also in their kind are visible 2. There be acts of Church-communion externall with all the visible Churches on earth Ergo the whole Catholick Church according to these acts is visible I prove the antecedent we pray in a Church-way publickly for all the visible Churches on earth we praise Church-wayes publickly for them we fast and are humbled Church-wayes before God when they are in trouble and so ought they to doe with us we by preaching writing and Synodicall constitutions proclaime the common enemie of all the Churches to be the Antichrist his doctrine and the doctrine of that body whereof he is Head to be false and hereticall by writings we call all the people of God to come out of Babâ—l and we renounce externall communion with Rome in Doctrine Discipline Ceremonies and Rites all which are Church-acts of externall communion with the reformed catholick visible Churches neither to make a Church visible to us is it requisiâ—e that we should see the faces of all the members of the Catholick visible Church and be in one materiall Church with them at once partaking of the same visible worship yea so the Church of Iudea should not be one visible Church which our Brethren must deny for they had one Priest hood on Temple one Covenant of God visibly professed by all yet could they not all meete in one materiall Temple to partake together at once of all Gods O dinanceâ— For I partake in externall worship with these of New England who are baptised according to Christs institution without the signe of the crosse though I never saw their faces Hence all may see that Oecumenick councel's are de jure and Christs lawfull Ordinances though de facto they be not through the corruption of our nature yet such a visible Church-fellowship in externall Church-communion is kept in the whole catholics Church visible as may be had considering the perversity of men and the malice of Satan It is constantly denied by our brethren that the Church of the Iewes was a congregationall Church and of that frame and institution with the Christian Church but that it was peculiar and meerely in laicall to be a nationall Church yet let me have liberty to offer a necessary distinction here 1. a nationall Church is either when a whole Nation and all the Congregations and Synogogues thereof are tied by Divine precept to some publique acts of typicall worship in one place Which the Lord hath chosen so all Israel were to sacrifice at Jerusalem onely and the Priests were to officiate in that kind there onely and they to pray toward the Temple or in the Temple and they to preseâ—t the male children there as holy to the Lord Luke 2. 23 c. this way indeed the Church of the Jewes in a peculiar manner was a Nationall Church and thus farre our brethrens arguments doe well conclude that the Jewish Church was Nationall in a peculiar manner proper to that Church onely But a Nationall Church is taken in another sense now for a people to whom the Lord hath revealed his statutes and his testimonies Whereas he hath not d alt so with every Nation Psal. 147. 19 20. which Church is also made up of many Congregations and Synagogues having one worship and government that doth morally concerne them all Thus the Iewish Church was once Nationall and that for a time God chose them of his free grace to be a people to himselfe Deut. 7. 7. and Deut. 32. 8. When the most high divided to the Nations their inheritance Iacob was the lot of his inheritance Amos 3. 2. You onely have I chosen of all the families of the earth But the Jewish Church was in this sence but Nationall for a time Now hath God Act. 11. v. 18. also granted to the Gentiles repentance unto life and called the Gentiles and made them a Nationall Church Hos. 1. 11. 1 Pet. 2. 10 11. Esay 54. 1 2 3. that is he hath revealed his testimonies to England to Scotland and He hath not done so to every Nation So if a false Teacher should goe through Israel and call himselfe the power
meanes and the people lovâ—d to have it so Jer. 5. 31. Then in Synagogues there was Church-government as at â—erusalem for where the Lord rebuketh any sinne he doth recommend the contrary duty Now Prophets and Priests are rebuked tor their ruling with force and rigour every where and not at Ierusalem onely for that they were not compassionate to carry the Lambs in their bosome as Iesus Christ doth Esai 40. 11. their ill government every where must be condemned 3. Luk. 4. 16. Christ as his custome was went into the Synagogue on the Sabbath day Paul and Barnabas were requested to exhort in the Synagogue as the order was that Prophets at the direction of the Rulers of the Synagogue if they had any word of exhortation they should speake and consequently their order was that every one should not speake Ergo they had customes and orders of Church-Discipline to the which Christ and his Apostles did submit themselves And to tie all Church-government to the Temple of Ierusalem were to say God had ordained his people elsewhere to worship him publickly but without any order and that Christ and his Apostles subjected themselves to an unjust order I further argue thus Those Churches be of the same nature frame and essentiall Constiutions which agree in the same essentials and diffâ—r only in accidents but such are the Church of the Iewes and the Christian Churches Ergo what is the frame and essentiall constiâ—â—tion of the one Church must be the frame and essentiall constitution of the other Ergo c. the major is of undeniable certainty I prove the assumption These which have the same Faith and the same externall profession of Faith these have the same frame and essentiall constitution but they and we be such Churches for we have the same covenant of grace Jer. 31. 31. Jer. 32. 39 40. Heb 8. 8 9 10. Therefore that same faith differing only in accidents their faith did looke to Christ to be incarnate and our faith to that same very God now manifested in the flesh Heb. 13. 8. They were saved by faith as we are Heb. 11. Acts 10. 42 43. Acts. 11. 16 17 18. and consequently what visible profession of faith doth constitute the one visible Church doth constitute the other I know Papists Arminians Socinians doe make the Doctrine and Seales of the Iewish and Christian Church much different but against the truth of Scripture The onely answer that can be made to this must be that though the Church of the Jewes wanted not congregations as our Christian Churches have yet were they a nationall Church of another essentiall visible frame then are the Christian Churches because they had positive typicall and ceremoniall and carnall commandements that they should have one high Priest for the whole nationall Church the Christian Churches have not for that one visible Monarch and Pope they had an Altar Sacrifices and divers pollutions ceremoniall which made persons uncapable of the Passover but we have no such legall uncleannesse which can make us uncapable of the Seales of the New Testament and therefore it was not lawfull to separate from the Jewish Church in which did sit a typicall High Priest where were Sacrifices that did adumbrate the Sacrifice of our great High Priest c. not withstanding of scandalous persons in that Church because there was but one visible Church out of which was to come the Redeemer Christ according to the flesh but the Christian Churches under the New Testament be of another frame Christ not being tyed to one Nation or place or Congregation therefore if any one Congregation want the Ordinances of Christ we may separate therefrom to another Mount Sion seeing there bee so many Mount Sions noâ— Answ. 1. If the Church of the Iewes was a visible Church in its essentiall constitution different from our visible Churches because they were under the Religions tie of so me carnall ceremoniall and typicall mandats and Ordinances that we are not under then doe I inferre that the Tribe of Levy was not one visible Church in the essentiall frame with the rest of the Tribes which is absurd for that Tribe conteyning the Priests and Levites was under the obligatory tie of many typicall Commandements proper and peculiar to them only as to offer Sacrifices to wash themselves when they were to officiate to weare linnen Ephods to beare the Arke of the Covenant now it was sinne for any that were not of the Sonnes of Aaron or of another Tribe to performe these duties yet I hope they made but one nationall Church with the rest of the Tribes Secondly I infer that the Christian Church that now is cannot be of that same essentiall frame with the Apostolick Churches because the Apostolick Church so long as the Jewish ceremonies were indifferent in statu 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and mortall but not mortiferae deadly was to practice these ceremonies in the case of scandall 1 Cor. 10. 31 32 33. and yet the Christian Church that now is can in no sort practice these ceremonies yea I inferre that the Eldership of a Congregation doth not make one Church of one and the same essentiall frame and constitution with the people because the Elders be under an obligatory tie to some positive Divine Commandements such as are to administer the Seales Baptisme and the Lords Supper and yet the multitude of Believeres in that same congregation are under no such tie and certainly if to be under ceremoniall and typicall ordinances doth institute the whole Jewish Church in another essentiall frame different from the Christian Churches reason would say that then if the members of one Church be under Divine positive commandements which doth in no sort tie other members of the same Church that then there be divers memberships of different essentiall frames in one and the same Church which to me is monstrous for then because a command is given to Abraham to offer his sonne Isaak to God and no such command is given to Sarah in that case Abraham and Sarah shall not bee members of one and the same visible Church But the truth is different positive commandments of ceremoniall and typicall ordinances put â—o new essentiall frame of a visible Church upon the Jewish Church which is not on the Christian Churches These were onely accidentall characters and temporary cognizances to distinguish the Jewish and Christian Churches while as both agree in one and the same morall constitution of visible Churches for first both had the same faith one Lord one covenant one Iesus Christ the same seales of the covenant in substance both were visibly to professe the same Religion the differences of externals made not them and us different visible Churches nor can our brethren say they made different bodies of Christ different Spouses different royall Generations as concerning Church-frame Yet are wee not tied to their high Priest to their Altars Sacrifices Holy dayes Sabbaths new Moones c. no more then any one private
Tribes did and the Kingdome of Iudah in the end did they should so marre and hurt the being and integrity of a visible Church as the Lord should say She is not my wife neither am I her husband and yet they might remaine in that case a free Monarchie and have a State and policy in some better frame though I grant de facto these two Twins State and Church civill Policy and Religion did die and live were sicke and diseased vigorous and healthy together yet doth this More that State and Church are different And further if that Nation had made welcome and with humble obedience beleeved in and received the Messiah and reformed all according as Christ taught them they should have beene a glorious Church and the beloved Spouse of Christ but their receiving and imbracing the Messiah should not presently have cured their inthralled state seeing now the Scepter was departed from Iudah and a stranger and heathen was their King nor was it necessary that that Saviour whose Kingdome is not of this world John 18. 36. and came to bestow a spirituall redemption and not to reestablish a flourishing earthly Monarchy and came to loose the works of the Devill Heb. 2 14. and not to spoile Cesar of an earthly Crowne should also make the Jews a flourishing State and a free and vigorous Monarchy againe Ergo it is most cleare that State and Church are two divers things if the one may bee restored and not the other Fifthly the King as the King was the head of the Common-wealth and might not meddle with the Priests office or performe any Ecclesiasticall acts and therefore was Uzzah smitten of the Lord with leprosie because he would burne incense which belonged to the Priests onely And the Priest in offering sacrifices for his owne sinnes and the sinnes of the people did represent the Church not the State And the things of the Lord to wit Church-matters and the matters of the King which were civill matters of State are clearly distinguished 2 Chron. 19. 11. which evidenceth to us that the Church and State in Israel were two incorporations formally distinguished And I see not but those who doe confound them may also say That the Christian State and the Christian Church be all one State and that the government of the one must be the government of the other which were a confusion of the two Kingdoms It is true God hath not prescribed judicials to the Christian State as he did to the Jewish State because shadows are now gone when the body Christ is come but Gods determination of what is morally lawfull in civill Laws is as particular to us as to them and the Jewish judicials did no more make the Jewish State the Jewish Church then it made Aaron to be Moses and the Priest to be the King and civill Judge yea and by as good reason Moses as a Judge should be a prophet and Aaron as a Prophet should be a Judge and Aaron as a Priest might put a malefactor to death and Moses as a Judge should prophâ—sie and as a Prophet should put to death a malefactor all which wanteth all reason and sense and by that same reason the State and Common-wealth of the Jews as a Common-wealth should offer sacrifices and prophesie and the Church of the Jews as a Church should denounce warre and punish malefactors which are things I cannot conceive Our brethren in their answer to the eleventh question teach That those who are sui juris as masters of families are to separate from these Parish-assemblies where they must live without any lawfull Ordinance of Christ and to remaine there they hold it unlawfull for these reasons First we are commanded to observe all whatsoever Christ hath commanded Matth. 28. 10. Secondly the Spouse seeketh Christ and rests not till she finde him in the fullest manner Cant. 1. 7 8. and 3. 1 2 3. David lamented when hee wanted the full fruition of Gods Ordinances Psal. 63. and 42. and 84. although he injoyed Abiathar the high Priest and the Ephod with him and Gad the Prophet 1 Sam. 23. 6 9. 10. 1 Sam. 22. 8. So did Ezra 8. 15 16. yea and Christ though he had no need of Sacraments yet for example would be baptized keepe the Passeover c. Thirdly no ordinances of Christ may be spared all are profitable Fourthly he is a proud man and knoweth not his owne heart in any measure who thinketh he may be well without any Ordinance of Christ. Fifthly say they it is not enough the people may be without sinne if they want any ordinances through the fault of the superiours for that is not their fault who want them but the superiours sinfull neglect as appeareeth by the practice of the Apostles Acts 4. 19. and 5. 29. For if they had neglected Church-ordinances till the Magistrates who were enemies to the Gospell had commanded them it had beene their grievous sinne For if superiours neglect to provide bodily food we doe not thinke that any mans conscience would be so scrupulous but he would thinke it lawfull by all good meanes to provide in such a case for himselfe rather then to sit still and to say If I perish for hunger it is the sinne of those who have authority over me and they must answer for it Now any ordinance of Christ is as necessary for the good of the soule as food is necessary for temporall life Ans. 1. I see not how all these Arguments taken from morall commandments doe not oblige sonne as well as father servant as master all are Christs free men sonne or servant so as they are to obey what over Christ commandeth Matth. 18. 10. and with the Spouse to seeke Christ in the fullest measure and in all his ordinances and sonne and servant are to know their owne heart so as they have need of all Christs ordinances and are no more to remaine in a congregation where their soules are samished because fathers and masters neglect to remove to other congregations where their souls may be fed in the fullest measure then the Apostles Acts 4. 29. and 5. 29 were to preach no more in the Name of Iesus because the Rulers commanded them to preach no more in his Name And therefore with reveâ—ence of our godly brethren I thinke this distinction of persons free and sui juris and of sonnes and servants not to be allowed in this point 2. It is one thing to remove from one congregation to another and another thing to separate from it as from a false constitute Church and to renounce all communion therewith as if it were the Synagogue of Satan and Antichrist as the Separatists doe who refuse to heare any Minister ordained by a Prelate now except these arguments conclude separation in this latter sense as I thinke they can never come up halfeway to such a conclusion I see not what they prove nor doe they answer the question c. concerning standing in
member Christs wisdome who careth for the whole no lesse then for the part cannot have denied a power conjunct with that congregation to save themselves from contagâ—ons to all the consociated Churches for if they be under the same danger of contagion with the one single congregation they must be armed and furnished by Christ Iesus with the same power against the same ill so the power of excommunication is given to the congregation but not to the congregation alone but to all the congregations adjacent so when I say the God of Nature hath given to the hands a power to defend the body I say true and if evill doe invade the body nature doth tell it and warne the hands to defend the body but it followeth not from this c. if the power of defending the body be given by the God of Nature to the hands therefore that same power of defence is not given to the feete also to the eye to foresee the ill to reason to the will to command that locomotive power that is in all the members to defend the body and if nature give to the Feete a power to defend the body by fleeing it is not consequence to infer O then hath nature denied that power to the hands by fighting so when Christ giveth to the congregation which in consociated Churches to us is but a part a member a fellowsister of many consociated congregations he giveth also that same power of excommunicating one common enemy to all the consociated Churches without any prejudice to the power given to that congregation whereof he is a member who is to be excommunicated because a power is commmon to many members it is not taken away from any one member When a Nationall Church doth excommunicate a man who hath killed his Father and is in an eminent manner a publick stumbling â—lock to all the congregations of a whole Nation it is presumâ—d that the single congregation whereof this parricide is a member doth also joyne with the nationall Church and put in exercise its owne power of excommunication with the nationall Church and therefore that congregation is not spoyled of its power by the nationall Church which joyneth with the nationall Church in the use of that power And this I thinke may be thus demonstrated The power of excomunication is given by Christ to a congregation not upon a positive ground because it is a visible instituted Church or as it is a congregation but this power is given to it upon this formall ground and reason because a congregation is a number of sinfull men who may be scandalized and infected with the company of a scandalous person this is so cleare that if a congregation were a company of Angels which cannot be infected no such power should be given to them even as there was no neede that Christ as a member of the Church either of Iewes or Christians should have a morall power of avoyding the company of Publicans and sinners because he might possibly convert them but they could no wayes pervert or infect him with their scandalous and wicked conversation therefore is this power given to a congregation as they are men who though frailty of nature may be leavened with the bad conversation of the scandalous who are to be excommunicated as is cleare 1 Cor. 5. 6. Your glorying is not good know yee not that a little leaven leavneth the whole lumpe therefore are we to withdraw our selves from Drunkards Fornicators Extortioners Idolaters and are not to eate and drinke with them v. 10. And from these who walke inordinately and are disobedient 1 Thess. 3. 12 13 14. And from Hereticks after they be admonished lest we be infected with their company just as nature hath given hands to a man to desend himselfe from injuries and violence and hornes to oxen to hold off violence so hath Christ given the power of excommunication to his Church as spirituall armour to ward off and defend the contagion of wicked fellowship Now this reduplication of fraile men which may be leavened agreeth to all men of many consociated congregations who are in danger to be infected with the scandalous behavior of one member of a single congregation and agreeth not to a congregation as such therefore this power of excommunication must be given to many confociated congregations for the Lord Iesus his salve must be as large as the wound and his mean must be proportioned to his end 2. The power of Church â—jection and Church separation of scandalous persons must be given to those to whom the power of Church communion and Church confirming of Christian love to a penitent excommunicate is given for contraries are in the same subject as hot and cold seeing and blindnesse but the power of Church-communio at the same Lords table and of mutuall rebuking and exhorting and receiving to grace after repentance agreeth to members of many consociated Churches as is cleare Col. 3. 16. Heb. 10. 23. 2 Cor. 2 6 7 and not to one congregation only Ergo c. the assumption is cleare for except we deny communion of Churches in all Gods Ordinances we must grant the truth of it 2. We say that of our Saviours tell the Church is not to be drawen to such a narrow circle as to a Parishionall Church only the Apostle practice is against this for when Paul and Bannabas had no small dissention with the Iewes of a particular Church they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certaine others of them should goe and tell the Apostles Elders and whole Church Nationall or Oecumemek Acts 15. 2. v. 22. and complaine of those who taught that they behoved to be circumcised Acts 15. 1. and that greater Church v. 22. 23. commanded by their ecclesiastick authority the contrary and those who may lay on burdens of commandements as this greather Church doth expresly v. 28. Acts 16. v. 4. ch 2. v. 25. they may censure and excommunicate the disobeyers And Acts 6. 1. the Greek Church complained Acts 6. of the Hebrewes to a greater and superior Church of Apostles and a multitude made up of both these v. 2. and 5. and they redresed the wrongs done to the Grecian Widdowes by appointing Deacons also though there was no complaint Acts 1. Yet was there a defect in the Church by the death of Judas and a catholike visible Church did meete and helpe the defect by chosing Mathias it is true the ordination of Matthias the Apostle was extraordinary as is cleare by Gods immediate directing of the lots yet this was ordinary and perpetuall that the election of Mathias was by the common suffâ—ages of the whole Church Acts 1. 26. and if we suppose that the Church had been ignorant of that defect any one member knowing the defect was to tell that catholick Church whom it concerned to choose a catholick Officer we thinke Antioch had power great enough intensively to determine the controversie Acts 15. but it followeth not that the catholick
in the Church assembly this Church-swearing is not rewarded so for how is it proved that a name even an everlasting name better then the names of sonnes and daughters is the name of a fellow-member in some obscure congregation or parish is this better then the name of a borne Jew who was also a member of the visible Church and if he believed in Christ had also the everlasting name of a member of the Jewish Church Surely there is no ground for this in Gods Word the everlasting name must be some spirituall remembrance and some invisible honour beyond the externall honour of being named the sonne or daughter of a Jew and by what warrant also of Gods word is Gods holy mountaine and his house of Prayer v. 7. which in the New Testament can no more be literally expounded then offering of burnt offerings by what warrant is this called a parochiall visible congregation where visible saints meets in one materiall house ordinarily and in one visible Church-way The house of Prayer there is Joh. 2. expounded of the typicall Temple which spiritually did typifie Christs body as he expoundeth it himselfe Ioh. 2. 18 19 20. deare brethren doe no violence to Gods Word 2. There is no ground that the Eunuch and stranger had no other complaint but want of visible membership for his laying hold on the Lords Sabbaths saith the contrary and though he should complain of that it is a small comfort promised thâ—â— he shall be a member of a visible congregation which membership many Iudasses and Hypocrites injoy also 3. Though there were a visible Church-membership here promised as no intepreter that ever yet saw it but your selves yet it should onely follow before heathen who are come to age be Baptized and so inchurched they should externally lay hold on a professed covenant and so that they might be members of the invisible Church before they be members of the visible Church which is much for our Baptisme-covenant and nothing for your Church-covenant 4. Church-membership by your exposition is promised to none but these who inwardly by true faith are joyned to the covenant then all Church-Acts performed by pastors and professors not converted though they proceed clave noâ— errante following Christ his rule are null and no baptiâ—ing no binding in heaven for a promise conditionall is no promise say reason and lawyers where the condition is not fulfilled The Author of the Church-covenant citeth that of Ezâ—k 16. 8. I entred into covenant with thee and thou becamest minâ— Eze. 20. 37. I will cause you to passe under the rod here is a covenant not of a person but of the whole House of Israel v. 30. 39. This covenant is called a band and Junius observeth well takes from shepheards who went amongst their sheep with a Rod and selected and poynted out such as were for the Lords sacrifice Lev. 26. 31. Ergo under the New Testament men enter not into the Church hand over head but they passe under the Rod of due tryall and then being â—ound meet are inchurched Answ. He entered into covenant with Hierusalem dying in her owne blood v. 6. v. 8. your covenant is made with a people washed and converted 2. All are taken in promiscuously in this covenant externally good and evill who prospered to a kingdome and were renowned amongst the Heathen v. 13. 14. Your Church covenant is of persons who passe under the rod of proâ—ation and passe for sound converts The other place is not to a purpose for God is not speaking of gathering his people to a visible Church but as Calvin Polanus Iunius God is meeting with the peoples wicked conclusion who said v. 34. They were banished and capâ—ives mixed amongst the Nations and so free from Gods corâ—ecting rod or band of Discipline and God saith and I will make you to passe under the Rod 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and I will bring you under the â—and of my covenant The Word is also Psal. 2. 3. and it is true â—hat 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth a staffe and a rod Prov. 10. 13. but it signifieth also a Kings Scepter Gen. 49. 10. but the band of the covenant signifieth no union of a visible Church nor is the Lord in that place promising the mercy of a gathered Church but by the contrary he threatneth an evill as v. 35. And I will bring you unto the wildernesse of the people and there will I plead with you face to face 36. Like as I peaded with your Fathers 37. And I will cause you to passe under the Rod c. To select you out from amongst the Heathen as sheep for sacrificing as the next verse 38. and I will purge out from amongst you the Reâ—â—lls c. This place is violently brought to witnesse unjustly And what though God would have them tryed who were taken under his covenant of protection it should be the covenant of grace and not a Church-covenant for he meaneth no such thing They alleadge Jerem. 50. 4. And in those dayes and at that time the children of Israel shall come they and the children of Judah together saying let us be joyned to the Lord in a perpetuall covenant that shall not be forgotten Answ. 1. Israel and Judah together cannot be a parochiall congregation nor 2. Can Sion be a parish Church nor 3. is the Church-covenant from which a man is loosed when upon good warrants and the consent of the congregation he removeth cut of that Church to another A perpetuall Covenant that shall never be forgotten for eternity is proper to the covenant of grace betwixt God and man Jerem. 31. 33 37 38. Jerem. 32. 40. Isal. 54. 10. Isai. 55. 3. Isai. 59. 21. and there is no covenant betwixt mortall men who shall dâ—e an eternall covenant The Author saith There is nothing more plaine then Isai. 44. 5. One shall say I am the Lords and another shall call himselfe by the name of Jacob and another shall subscribe with his hand and sirname himselfe by the name of Israel These words are so plaine as nothing can be more plaine Answ. This is a cleare place that under the Mâ—ssiah all people shall professe themselves in covenant with God and the children of God and the Church and Calvin citeth Psal. 87. 5. and of Sion it shall be said This and this man was borne in her but this is not plaine at all that these professe themselves sworne members of a particular Parish yea the contrary is most plaine that they shall call themselves by the name of Jacob and Israel that is children of the whole visible Church for Jacob and Israel is not restricted to one particular congregation Before the peoples captivity saith Musculus The names of Bâ—â—l and idoll gods sounded in their mouthes but then they shall professe the true God and that they are his people Now Gods covenant is made principally not with one single congregation not is
the blood that sealeth the covenant shed for one single congregation nor are the promises of the covenant Yea and Amen is Christ for one single flocke onely and primò principaliter but for the whole Catholike Church and therefore they shall name themselves Christians The Author addeth Every Church is Christs married Spouse united to Christ by covenant the violation of marriage is the violation of a covenant yea and there is a marriage betwixt the Church members Isa. 62. 5. as a young man marrieth a Virgin so shall thy sonnes marry thee Answ. A marriage betwixt Christ and his Church we grant and betwixt Christ and every particular soule beleeving in him in respect of the love 2. mutuall interest and claime one to another Cant. 2. 16. and what holdeth betwixt Christ and a Church catholick or particular holdeth also betwixt Christ and every soule and to extort a Church covenant betwixt Christ and a particular soule who may be and often is a beleever yet out of Church-state from the borrowed phrase of marriage is â—oo violent blooding of comparisons and therefore from marriage belonging to the catholike Church principally how can a marriage visible be concluded 2. the sonneâ— are the whole Church of the Gentiles too large a Pâ—rish incolaeterrae saith Musculus and excellently Calvin Christ so is the husband of his Church that he marrieth upon his Church all people and Nations which are gathered to her because while the Church wanteth children she is as it were a widow now this is nothing for a Church-covenant Thirdly there is a relative obligation of mutuall duties of love betwixt fellow members of a visible Church and betwixt sonnes and the mother congregation but this is first done in Baptisme expresly secondly in our comming to be members of such a congregation but the person is before a member of the visible Church The Author addeth If dissolving a covenant be that which dissolveth a Church as Zach. 11. 9. 10. then the making of a covenant is that which constituteth a Church if dissipating of stones unbuild the house then compacting of them together doth build the house but the breaking of the covenant under the name of breaking of the two staves beauty and bands Zâ—ch 11. is the inchurching of the Iewes Ergo Answ. The dissolving and breaking of the covenant of grace and the removing of the Candlestick and the Word of God Revel 2. 5. Amâ—s 8. 11 12. taketh away the being of a Church both as a true Church and as a true visible Church and of such a breaking of the covenant doth the Lord speake Zach. 11. v. 9. and I said I will not feed you that which dieth let it die and that which perisheth let it perish c. and it taketh away the union of brotherhead amongst the members verse 14. so the thing in question is not hence concluded for the question is if a Church-covenant make a Church as visible and the breach of that Church-covenant unmake and dissolve a Church as visible and this place proveth what maketh and unmaketh a Church simply as a Church not as visible and under that reduplication Quest. 3. Whether by testimonies from the new Testament and good reasons a Church-covenant can be evinced Our Author alleageth 2 Cor. 11. 2. I have espoused you to one husband that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ so also the Apologie this was nothing else but the planting of the Church at Corinth if you say this Paul did while he converted them to the grace of Christ by his ministery if this were true saith he then should Christ have many thousands hundreds and scores at least of spouses in one Church which we thinke inconvenient Secondly it is plaine he speaketh of the whole Church as of one spouse and as it were one chaste Uirgin which argueth he perswaded them all as the friend of the bridegroome to give up themselves with one accord as one man into one body to the fellowship and worship of the Lord Jesus Answ. it is a weake cause that hangeth upon the untwisted thred of a misapplied metaphor For 1. espoufing into Christ in the Text is opposed to being deceived and corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ as Evah was deceived by the serpent and opposed to the receiving of another spirit and another Gospell so then to be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ and to receive another Gospell must have this meaning as Evah was deceived by the Serpent so I feare that your simple minds be un-Churched and loosed from the visible Church of Corinth and that you forget your covenant wherein ye sweare to take Christ for your husband and me for the friend of the Bridegroome and that you be remisse in the duties of externall discipline and Church-fellowship and in excommunicating scandalous persons c. Aâ— brethren let not our Lords word be thus tortured and wrested 2. He expoundeth this espoufing the presenting of them to Christ in the day of God as a washed redeemed and saved wife of Christ and not of their Church continuing in visible society Yea all interpreters ancient and moderne as Augustine Theophylact Chrysostome Oecumenius Cyrillus Ambrose Our latter Calvin Bullinger Beza Pomâ—ran Pellicanus Sarcerius Marlorat Paraphrastes Erasmus and Papists Aquinas Haymo give this sense Paul as the friend to the Bridegroome finding the Corinthians despising him and in love with false teachers grew jealous of them for his Lords cause that though he had betrothed them to Christ as a virgin hand fastned by promise to a husband left they should be drawne away to other lovers by the cunning of false teachers as Evah was led from her Lord by subtill Satan 3. Though he speake of them as of one body spouse virgin how doth it follow that he speaketh of them as of a ministeriall and a parochiall body for the marriage the betrothing to Christ and the acts contrary the receiving of another spirit the corrupting of their simple minds are acts altogether spirituall internall invisible and acts of a Church as a true Church the contrary are acts of a false Church as false and not acts of a Church as visible in a visible meeting in a visible external act of marrying nor is their any insinuation that Paul feared the dissolving of the Church oath and visible order of government 4. It is not inconvenient that there be many Spouses as in every true beleever there be many single acts of marriage love and of beleeving and so of taking Christ for their husband and Lord. A visible Church is the House of God 1 Tim. 3. 15. the Temple of God Rev. 3. 12. and yet every beleever is a Temple 1 Cor. 3. 17. and every one His House seeing he dwelleth in them by saith Ephes. 3. 17. also if this be a good reason he speaketh of them all as of one chaste virgin Ergo he speaketh of
Distinct. There is a confession which containeth fundamentalls only the knowledge whereof is simply necessary for salvation and the simple ignorance whereof condemneth There is a confession which containeth fundamentalls and non fundamentalls which are not simplie necessary to be knowen by all necessitate â—â—edii 3. Dist. A confession of faith is to be respected in regard of the matter which is Divine Scripture or according to the stile conception and inâ—erpretation which is in some respect humane 4. Distinct. There is a confession of a particular man what such a person or Church believeth de facto as the confession of â—â—e Belgick Arminians and a confession de jure what every one ought to believe as the Nicen Creed the Creed of â—thanasiâ—s 5. Dist. There is a confession of a faith firme and sure quoad â—ertitudinem fidei quoad substantiam articulorum credendoâ—um sure in the Articles believed and a confession sure quoad radicationem fidei in subjecto the first way all are obliged â—â— believe the Articles contained in the word But we see not how now after the Canon of Scripture is closed but the certainty of faith according to the measure of light more or lesse as our Lord more or lesse doth reveale himselfe in a more or lesse measure of ligh doth not grow woâ— or decrease according to the certainy of faith the second way hence we say 1. Conclusion Onely the Word of God is the principall and formall ground of our Faith Eph. 2. 20 21 22. 2 Tim. 3. 16. Luk. 14. 25. 2. Concl. A confession of Faith containing all fundamentall points is so farre forth the Word of God as it agreeth with the Word of God and obligeth as a rule secundary which wee believe with subjection to God speaking in his owne Word and to this plat-forme wee may lawfullly sweare 1. What ever wee are obliged to believe and professe as the saving truth of God that we may lawfully sweare to professe believe and practise that the bond of faith may be sure but wee are obliged to believe and professe the nationall confession of a sound Church Ergo. The proposition is cleare from Davids and the Saints practise who layed bands on their soules to tie themselves to that which is lawfull as Psal. 119. 106. I have sworn and will performe it that I will keep thy Righteous judgements The major is the doctrine of our Dvines and cleare when they explaine the matter of a lawfull Oath as Pareus Bucanus Tilenus Profess Leydens Calvin Iunius Beza Piscator Zanchiâ— c. That things lawfull may lawfully be sworne to GOD observing other due circumstances The assumption is â—â—deniable 2. Arg. That whereof we are assured in conscience to be the truth and true Religion bringing salvation to mens soules to that we may tie our selves by an Oath upon the former grounds But the sound confession of faith set downe in a platformâ— is such as we may and are to be assured of in conscience â— the truth of God Ergo The assumption is proved because what is Gods Word and truth of that we are to be assured of iâ— conscience as Col. 2. 7. Being knit together in love unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding and Heb. 6. 11. should keepe the full assurance of hope to the end Col. 2. 2 3. Eph. 4. 14. 3. If the people of the lewes did sweare a covenant with God to keep the words of the covenant to doe them Deut. 29. 9. 10 11. To seeke the Lord God of Israel with all their heart and with all their soule 2 Chron. 15. 12. and if they entered into a curse and an oath to walke in the Lords law which was given by Moses the servant of God to observe and doe all the Commandements of the Lord and subscribed and sealed the covenant with their hands Nehem. 10. 1. v. 29. Then is it lawfull for a Church to sweare and by oath subscribe an Orthodox confession But the former is true as the places alledged cleare Ergo so is the latter That which onely may be doubted of is the connexion of the major proposition because Israel did sweare to nothing but to Moses written Law which in matter and forme was Gods expresse written word but it will not follow that we may sweare a plat-forme of Divine truth framed and penned by men but the connexion notwithstanding of this remaineth sure because Israel did sweare the Lords covenant according to the true meaning and intent of the Holy Ghost as it is Gods Word and we also sweare a Nationall covenant not as it is mans word or because the Church or Doctors at the Churches direction have set it down in such and such words such an order or method but because it is Gods Word so that we sweare to the sense and meaning of the platforme of confession as to the Word of God now the Word of God and sense and meaning of the Word is all one Gods Law and the true meaning of the Law are not two different things When a Jew sweareth to the doctrine and covenant of God in the Old Testament in a Jewish meaning he sweareth not to the Word of God because the Word of God unsoundly expounded is not the Word of God and though the Sadducees and Pharisees sweare the five bookes of Moses and the very covenant which Asah and the Kingdome of Iudâ—h did sweare 2 Chron. 15. yet doe they not sweare the covenant of God and that same which Gods people did sweare 2 Chron. 15. Or if any professing they worship idols should sweare that covenant alledging the covenant doth not forbid idols to be memorials and objects by which absolute adoration is given to God we would not thinke that they had sworne the covenant of God but onely words of God falsely expounded yea and made to be not Gods Word but a plaine lying invention Therefore it is all one whether a Church sweare a confession in expresse words of Scripture or a covenant in other words expounding the Scriptures true meaning and sense according to the language and proper idiom of the Nation and Church for we sweare not words or a platforme as it is such but the matter sense and meaning of the Scriptures of God set downe in that platforme and it is certaine in Nehemiahs time there was some platforme either the writings of Moses or some sound exposition thereof else I see not how they could seale it Nehem. 9. 38. And because of all this we make a sure covenant and write it and our Princes Levites and Priests seale unto it Now that which was written could not but be a platforme either in Scripture onely according to the meaning of the exacters of the oath or some interpretation else every man writ his owne covenant and sealed it which is not like for they all joyntly sware this covenant and the reason of this written sworne and sealed covenant being morall as is cleare
and inward senses and as i◠revealeth and discovereth the things of God according to that 1 Cor. 14. 24. But if all prophecy and there come one who is an unbeliever and an unlearned he is convinced of all and judged of all v. 25. and thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest and so falling downe on his face he will worship God and report that God is in you of a truth So here is Gods order how the word preached is a notifying marke discovering to an unbeliever the true Church It I would poynt out one of the Kings Courtiers by this that he hath a purple cloak and a blew scarf if the man to whom I notifie the Courtier do neither know what a purple garment is nor what a blew scarf is the marke shall be no marke to him yet are these sufficient markes in their owne nature if we suppose that no other Courtiers are in that manner apparelled Therefore I would difference betwixt notam notificantem notam notificativam a note that of its owne nature doth make a thing knowen or that which actually maketh a thing knowen to some The settled professed preaching of the Word is a note of the visible Church Ministeriall and that there either is or in Gods own time shall be some invisible Church of sanctified ones there 1. Because Deut. 4. 6 the hearing and doing of Gods Word maketh the Church of the Jewes a renowned and wise people in the fight of the Nations 2. The preaching of the Word and administration of the Sacraments are proper to the Church and distinguish them from other Nations Psal. 147. 19. Hee sheweth his word unto Iacob and to Israel his statutes and his judgments 20. He hath not dealt so with any Nation So Deut. 17. 29. 30 31 32. The Lords worship is so peculiar to his Church as it differenceth them from all others So Esd. 2. 8. 3. Esa. 59. last verse 3. The Church is defined Acts 2. 42. a company of these who professe truly and continue in the Apostles doctrine and breaking of bread 4. The planting and gathering of Churches is expounded to be teaching and baptizing Mat. 28. 19. 20. 5. Christs sheep heare his voyce in his own sent shepheards Joh. 10. 27. 28. 6 The Church is a company built upon the Doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles Eph. 2. 20. 7 The Church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim. 3. 15. because the Church teacheth professeth and keepeth the truth So Augustine Tertullian Hierom. and Chrysostome will have us to seeke the true Church by the true Word of God and not by mens word Robinson objecteth first Profession of the truth made by men of lewd conversation maketh them not the Church because they deserve to be cast out of the Church but by men visibly and externally holy Mat. 3. 6. Acts 1. 38. Act. 2. 37 38. 1 Cor. 15. 1. Mat. 10. 40. 41. Acts 8. 12 13. Answ. These and many other places do strongly prove our poynt and especially that the profession of Simon Magus who before God deserved to be cast out of the Church Acts 8. is sufficient to make one a member of a visible Church Yea but none deserve in foro Ecclesiae in the Churches Court to becast out but such as either confesse scandalous sins or are contumacious or convicted judicially of the same before witnesses otherwayes the dearest to Christ do legally before God deserve all to be cast out Robinson saith The word in the Bible is no note of the true Church but the Word believed and obeyed for Papists have the Bible And Mr. Coachman saith the Philistims had the Arke amongst them and a Iesuit at a river side baptized with a skoop a thousand Indians were they for that a true Church and Papists saith our Authour have baptisme Ans. The like is objected by Socinus Theoph. Nicolaides Cattch Raccoviensis and by Anabaptists But first we make not the word and materiall Bible and naked seales the marks of the true invisible Church we are now disputing about the markes of a visible Church 2. We make not the naked presence of Word and Sacraments true markes of the Church but a setled professed erected feeding by shepheards feeding with knowledge we make a marke of the shepheards Tents which way neither Philistines nor Indians have the Word of God and for the Church of Rome we cannot deny but she retaineth so much of the essence of a ministeriall Church as maketh baptisme administrated by them to be true baptisme that is a valid seale though she cannot 〈◊〉 be called a true ministeriall Church Other two questions here are shortly to be discussed as belonging to this purpose as 1. whether discipline be a marke of the visible Church Mr. Robinson saith the power of censures is simply necessary for the being of the Church sundry of our Divines affirm it is So the learned Professors of Leyden and Ursin with Pareus Great Junius saith it is a note belonging to the Churches order ad decorum the Augustine confession leaveth it out from amongst the notes and so doth Calvin and Whittakerus make two notes onely Word and Sacraments Learned Beza maketh onely the preaching of the Word a note not excluding the other two I thinke Distinctions may help the matter 1. There is a power of discipline and there is a care thereof True Churches have a power given them of Christ and this Robinson proveth and no more yet the care to exercise the power may be wanting in a true Church 2. Distinct. Right discipline is not necessary for the essence of a visible Church All our Divines condemne Anabaptists and Pelagians who plead that righteous men onely and such societies as have right discipline to be true Churches 2. Novatians and Donatists came neere to them in this also as we may see in Augustine So Rich. Field Parker Cartwright make it necessary to the wel-being of the Church 1. Because it is not indifferent 2. Because it is commanded in Gods word 3. Discipline in the substantiall points is immutable 4. It is necessary in respect of the end And all this the learned Parker demonstrateth to be true But it is not necessary simply to the being of it as a City may be without walls a Garden without an hedge 3. Distinct. The power and right to discipline is a propriety essentiall to the Church and is not removed from it till God remove the Candlesticke and the Church cease to be a visible Church but the exercise may be wanting and the Church a true visible Church from which we are not to separate 4 Discipline is a necessary note and unseparable from a visible Church whole intire and not lame and imperfect But ◠Church may retaine the essence and being of a visible Church and yet have no discipline in actuall use or little and though want of
originally in caetu sidelium in a Church of Believers but they cannot say that therefore the acts of Preaching administrating of the Sacraments and all acts of jurisdiction can be exercised by the Believers because they are the first subject Secondly the farther that the members or Churches either Congregationall Presbyteriall or Nationall are removed in locall distance one from another the lesse is the visible and externall communion of rebuking comforting and admonishing one another yet the power and obligation of these duties are not removed So though the Nationall Churches be locally distant one from another yet their power of exercising duties and so their power of Jurisdiction in an Oâ—cumenicke Councell is not from thence concluded to be null Yea Nationall duties upon occasion are still obligatoryâ— and communion of men of sundry Nations is cleare to mee Esai 2. 3. many Nations shall flow unto the Mountaine of the Lords House Zach. 8. 23. Ten men shall take hold out of all Languages of the Nations they even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew saying we will goe with you for wee have heard that God is with you I do not say these Nations doe meete all in one Synod but the places doe well prove the power lawfull of performing duties whereas the exercise of them in one place is not hic nunc in ordinary providence possible And so this consequence must be weake the whole catholick visible Churches in their principall guides cannot ordinarily and constantly meet hic nunc for the exercise of their power Ergo they have no such power For if the power be exercised in parts which through occurrences of Providence and the corruption of mens nature cannot be exercised in whole at once yet it s not hence evinced to be a power not given of Christ for eâ—ification for by our Brethrens grant three thousand are added to the Congregationall Church of Jerusalem Acts 2. and to this Church of three thousand and a hundred and twenty Christ hath given the ordinary power of the Keyes as to the first subject though through occurences of providence and the corruption of mans nature some of these suppose a thousand through sicknesse pest danger of persecution and sinfull separating from the assembly of Saints could not hic nunc meet in one house to exercise joyntly all the acts of that power which our Brethren say is given to them by Christ they cannot say therefore Christ never gave to this whole Church consisting of three thousand and a hundred and twenty any such power Thirdly there is a great difference betwixt the power given ad esse simplictèr to the being of a Church and the power given ad benè esse tantùm onely to the well-being 2. Great difference also there is betwixt ordinary power to be exercised constantly and ordinarily because of neerer consociation of the Churches in those things that concerne that Church in particular suppose a presbyteriall or Congregationall Church and a power to be exercised but more rarely not ordinarily because of the lesse communion visible and great locall distance of Churches as it falleth out in the whole visible Church Now from this First The ordinary power of Jurisdiction because of neerest vicinity and contiguity of members is given by Jesus Christ to one Congregation in an Isle 1. Because that Church is a Church properly so called though it be not a perfit and complete Church I say it is a Church properly so called Because 1. It is a little City and a little Kingdome of Jesus Christ having within it selfe power of the Word and Sacraments and that is a Church and hath the essence of a Church to which agree the essentiall notes of a visible Church Now preaching of the Word and Administration of the Sacraments are essentiall notes of a visible Church But I say it is not a compleate and perfit Church in the latitude of visibility for Churches are lesse or more visible according as they have lesse or more visible communion for visible communion constituteth a visible Church Now a Congregation in a remote Island hath a lesse communion visible with other visible Churches then conscciated visible Churches have 2. It is not compleate and perfit in its operations because in case of doubts of conscience touching government and practice and dogmaticall poynts it wants the joynt authority and power of Jurisdiction needfull for the well-being of a Church which it should have if it were consociated with many other Congregations so as wee say an hand with five fingers is a compleate hand but it is not a compleat organicall body but a part of the organicall body of a man so is a Congregation a Church wanting nothing of the being and essence of a Church yet is it incompleate because it is a part or member of a Presbyteriall Church and not being consociated wanteth that which belongeth to the well being of a compleat visible Church For visibility of a Church must have a latitude because it is an accident or adjunct of an organicall politick body which is totum integrale Secondly the ordinary power of ordinary Jurisdiction in a more perfit way because of ordinary and perfiter consociation is given to the Presbyteriall Church as to the proper subject in the constant and ordinary exercise of Discipline because contignity being the foundation of visible externall government the Presbyteriell Church of Ierusalem Ephesus Corinth Antioch and Rome is a perfit compleat consociaâ—d body To which the power of ordination exauthoration or deprivation of Pastors of excommunication in a constant and ordinary way doth belong For this is a principle of Church-policy Every politick body of Christ hath power of Church government within it selfe But a Presbyteriall church is such 2. This is a received maxime also Quod tangit omnes ab omnibus suo more tractari debet VVhat concerneth all should be agitated by all according to their degrees of concernment but excom nunication of a person in a consociated Church concerneth all the consociated Churches in a Presbytery all are scandalized all may be and are in danger to be leavened with the infectious lumpe And here it is to be observed that as preaching of the Word is an essentiall note of the visible Church and agreeing to the visible Church as necessary ad esse simpliciter to the very being of a visible Church For if the word as Preached and some way promulgated be not in such a society we cannot call it a visible Church so Discipline is a note of the visible Church and necessary ad bene esse and it cannot be a Ministeriall Church in a good condition exercising acts of edification if the wall of Discipline be broken downe and meeting in one place for Word and Sacraments is but accidentall for a Ministeriall Church If the Word be preached and the Sacraments administrated in sundry Congregations though not in a Presbyteriall Church all convened in all its members
the offence which is the subject of excommuncation The whole ministeriall Church is that particular Church together with the Presbytery and my reason is there is a Church Acts 2. consisting of one and thirty hundred and twenty all called one Church Now it is said of this Church that they continued vers 42. stedfastly in the Apostles doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and prayer but where did they meet vers 46. not onely in the Temple but dayly from house to house This whole number hath had v. 42. one Church-fellowship one Word one Supper of the Lord but in one meeting at once No but they met from house to house that is in any private house as the phrase is here 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and Acts 20. 20. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Now it is cleare there were Congregations and Churches when Word and Sacraments were in private houses at Jerusalem and from house to house in Ephesus but I hope these were but parts of the Church at Ierusalem and Ephesus and that they could not meet all in one house If one therefore complaine of a scandalous person to the Church of Ephesus convened in a house possibly in an upper Chamber or elsewhere this is a meeting that continueth in prayer and breaking of bread and so hath power of Church-censures to admonish and rebuke which things belong to that single Congregation or Church in a private house but it hath not power to censure those that offend the consociated Congregations that meet also 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in houses that is to excommunicate and therefore he must complaine to the Elders of Ephesus â—oâ— we are not to thinke that the false Jewes who were censured by the Apostles of Ephesus Revâ—â— 2. 2. did onely infest houses or one Congregation meet in a house or that one House-Church or House-Congregation of Ephesus did try and censure those that called themselves Iewes Revel 2 2 but Christ giveth the praise of this to the whole Church of Ephesus who had the power of censures But it may be said Ascandalous person may infect two Congregations of two neighbouring Presbyteries he dwelling neere the borders of both Ergo if he be to be excommunicated not by a Congregation onely but by the Presbytery because â—e may leaven many consociated Churches this man is not to be excommunicated except you tell two Presbyteriall Churches and so a whole Province and if he dwell in the borders of two Nations betwixt England Scotland he may leaven two parts of two Nationall Churches and if the matter concerneth both the Nationall Churches a higher Church then a Presbytery to wit a Church made up of two Presbyteries yea of parts of two Presbyteries of two Nations must by divine institution be that Church compleat and entire to which we must complaine and which hath the power of excommunication Answ. It is certaine as the locall limits of a Congregation and the number is not properly of divine institution onely a convenient number there must be to make up a Congregation and suppose a man do dwell in the borders of two Congregations where he is equally distant from the place of meeting of these two Congregations it is not of divine institution whether he be a member of the one or the other yet where his parents did willingly associate themselves to such a Congregation or he himselfe did associate himselfe and where he received Baptisme he hath now a relation to that Church as a member thereof and that Pastor is his Pastor not any other as the Elders of the Church of Ephesus suppose it were one single Congregation and the Angell of Ephesus is not the Angell of Thyatira the Angell of Pergamus is not to be called the Angell of Sardâ—s So iâ— the matter in a Presbytery or two Presbyteries of two distinct Nations I meane now a classicall Presbytery therefore these doe make Presbyteries 1. A convenient number of Churches may be governed by one Colledge or society of Elders 2. Having ordinary conversing one with another 3. Voluntarily upon these two grounds combining themselves in one society and upon these three the supervenient institution of Christ is grounded And therefore though it be true that one dwelling in the borders of two Congregations of two classicall Presbyteries of two Nations may equally infect other and so ex natura rei and in reality of truth he may leaven both yet the God of order having made him a combined member now by institution of one Presbyteriall Church not of the other he is to be excommunicated by the one not by the other For though locall distinction of Congregations and Presbyteries bee not of divine institution yet supposing consideration be had to first a competent number which may be edified secondly to ordinary conversing thirdly to voluntary combination either formall as at the first molding of Congregations and Presbyteries or tacit and vertuall combination as in after tracts of time Gods institution maketh a relation of a particular membership of this man so to this Congregation or Presbyterie as that now upon their foresaid suppositions though he may leaven the neighbouring Presbyteries or Congregations no lesse then those whereof he is a member yet may he be censured by those and none others now in respect of Christs ordinance applied to this Presbyteriall Church in this place and in this Nation and not in this Object 13. If the Congregation may admonish and rebuke then may they excommunicate for you may not distinguish where the Law of God distinguisheth not for there is no reason why this or this exercise of jurisdiction should be given them and not the exercise of all Answ. The Law clearly differenceth Matth. 18. I may rebuke and convince my brother with the consent of three witnesses which is some degree of Church-censure especially if a Pastor rebuke before three yet may not a Pastor excommunicate the Church doth that 2. We acknowledge that a Congregation may exercise all jurisdiction in re propria but excommunication where Churches are consociated is not a thing that is proper to a Congregation but concerneth many Obj. 14. We doe not thinke that the Church Math. 18. 16. is the community its alone nor the Elders there alone but the Elders in presence of the community For even Act. 15. when the Apostles and Elders did give out decrees they did it before the Church of Ierusalem and in their presence V. 22. Then pleased it the Apostles Elders and whole Church to send chosen men to Antioch For shew us a warrant in the Word where the Elders there alone did exercise jurisdiction the people not being convened and where such a company of Elders there alone is called a Church The Iudges in Israel judged in the gates before the people the Elders judged in or before the Church as the eye seeth united to the head not separated from it Answ. Nor doe we exclude these from hearing the Elders exercise jurisdiction if the
his Brotherly relation to the people as if hee were called to bee their Pastor I desire to know what the naked relation of Authority or Jurisdiction addeth to his care and onerousnesse in poynt of labouring by preaching the Gospell Indeed now being called his care is Pastorall and more authoritative But if according to the measure of the Talent every one is to proportion his paines to gaine more Talents to his Lord and if the relation of a Pastor adde no degrees of gifts to His Talent as wee may suppose I thinke his onerousnesse in labouring was as great before hee was a Pastor as after but I speake not this to say that in a constituted Church there is no calling required other then giftes Nor doe I speake this to say that a calling is not a new motive why a man should imploy his gifts for the honour of the Giver But only to shew that CHRIST hath united powers of Jurisdiction in Congregations in Presbyteries in Churches of Provinces and Nations that so not onely gifts might conduce to helpe and promove edification but also united powers of Jurisdiction which are also gifts of God and though some may say that a calling to an Office layeth on Mâ—n a more speciall Obligation to make accompt for Soules then gifts onely which in some sense I could also yeeld yet seeing wee thinke the relation of the Eldership to a whole Classicall Church is not founded upon an Office different from the Offices of Pastors and Elders which they have and are clothed with in relation to their particular Congregations but onely authoritative acts of the same Office and that for the common promoving of edification in the whole Classicall Church grounded in the depth of his Wisdome who hath seven Eyes upon a Brotherly Consociation in which they must either edifie one another and occasionally partake of these same holy things or then scandalizâ— and leaven one another with their publique transgressions wee cannot see how presbyteriall Elders are more to give accompt for the Soules of the whole Classicall Church in Scriptures sense Hebrewes 13. 17. then consociated pastors and Elders of consociated Churches are to give an accompt to GOD for sister Churches over which they are to watch and whose Soules they are to keepe and so farre as they are Brethren must make a reckoning to GOD for them And how can the presbytery be more said to intangle themselves in governing the Classicall Church in some things with things not proper to their calling seeing consociated Churches in a Brotherly way doe medle with those same things though not in a way of Jurisdiction For helping the Classicall Church by way of Fraternity is not unproper to a Christian calling of Brethren and the joyning of power of Jurisdiction I meane of power lesser to another power greater to helpe the Classicall Church upon the same ground of Fraternity cannot bee unproper to the calling of a Colledge of presbyters Objecti 5. The power of Presbyteries taketh away the power of a Congregation therefore it cannot bee lawfull The antecedent is thus confirmed 1. Because if the Presbytery ordainâ— one to bee Excommunicated whom the Elders of a Congregation in conscience thinke ought not to bee Excommunicated the man Jure Divino must be Excommunicated and the power of the Congregation which Christ hath given to them is nul And the exercise thereof impeded by a greater power 2. the voyces of two Elders of a Congregation which are now sitting in the greater and classicall Presbytery are swallowed up by the greater number of Elders of thirty or forty Congregations met in one great presbytery Ergo the power of the Congregation is not helped by the presbytery but close taken away Answ. The Argument doth presuppose that which is against GODS Law to wit 1. That there is a contradiction of Voyces betwixt the Elders of a Cong egation and of the greater presbytery which should not bee for Brethren even of Galathia which contained many Congregations as our Brethren confesse should all minde and speake and agree in one thing that belongeth to Church Discipline as is cleare Gala. 1. 8. Gala. 5. 10 v. 15. Gala. 6. 1. 2. 2. The Argument supposeth that the greater presbytery is wrong in their voycing that such a man should be excommunicated and the two Elders of the Congregationall Church is right and hath the best part in judging that the same man ought not to be Excommunicated But Christ hath given no power to any Church to erre and that power which in this case the presbytery exerciseth is not of Christ and de jure the power of the greater presbytery in this case ought to bee swallowed up of the two Voyces of the Elders of the Congregation But suppose that the Elders of one Congregation and the whole meeting all agree in the truth of GOD as they all doe Acts 15. will you say that Peter Paul and Iames their power is null and taken from them and their three voyces are swallowed up in that great convention because to their power and voyces are added in this dogmaticall determination which you grant even now to many consociated Churches the power and voyces of the rest of the Apostles and Elders yea and as some say of the whole Church Acts 15. 2 v. 6. 25. Acts 16. 4. Acts 21. 18. 25 I believe addition of lawfull power doth not annull lawfull power but corroborate and strengthen it So this shall fall upon your owne Eldership of your independent Congregation Suppose â—en Pastors Elders and Doctors in one of your Congregations whereas sometime there were but three and these three had the sole power of Jurisdiction and exercise of the Keyes you cannot say that the accession of six Elders to three hath made null the power of three and swallowed up their voyces for if their power and voyces were against the truth it is fit they should be swallowed up if they were for CHRIST they are strengthened by the accession of lawfull power and moe voyces and neither annulled nor swallowed up Object 6. The Church at the first for example when it was but a hundreth and twenty had the full entire power within it selfe Ergo it should bee in a worse case by the multiplication of Churches if now that power bee given to Presbyteries Ans. It is a conjecture that the whole Christian Church Acts 1. was onely an hundreth and twenty I thinke there were more though these onely convened at the ordination of Matthias for there were above five hundred Brethren at once which saw CHRIST after his Resurrection 1 Cor. 15. 6. and these I Judge belonged to the Christian Church also 2. It is constantly denied that addition of lawfull power to lawfull power doth arnull or put in a worse condition the prexistent power it doth helpe it but not make it worse and twenty Churches adding their good and Christian counsells and comforts to two Churches doe not annull or hurt or swallow up
Text beare that the Elders set up a Court before the Eyes of all the people and delivered such a man to Satan so as this is called the head of Elders and people as our Brethren teach and here they distinguish where the Scripture distinguisheth not Fourthly if the Scripture give to us Thrones really different though names and titles cannot be found more then we find expresly and in words two Sacraments three Persons and one God Christ Iesus in two Natures and one Person then have we what we seeke but wee have these different in the things themselves as Acts 2. 46. wee have a Church meeting in an House for Word and Sacraments as Acts 20. 8. and a Congregation in Corinth meeting in an House 1 Cor. 11. 20. 1 Cor. 14. 23. and consequently here must bee some power in this meeting to order the worship of God this single meeting is to rebuke those that sinne openly and to hinder Women to preach in the Congregation and to forbid by the power of the Keys that two speake at once because God is the God of order to borbid Doctrine that edifieth not and speaking Gods Word in an unknowen Tongue c. 2. There is an Eldership 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in every City in Ephesus in Ierusalem who met for Jurisdiction Acts 21. 18. who layd hands on Timothy 1 Tim. 14. 14. in Antioch Acts 13. 1. 3. There is a meeting of a provinciall Church in Galathia where there are many Churches as may be gathered from Acts 5. 9. 10. who were to purge out the scandalous and false Teachers who leavened all others and who were Gal. 6. 1. to restore with the spirit of meekenesse any fallen Brother and 4. There a map and patterne of a generall Synod warranting both a nationall Church-meeting and an Oâ—cumenick councell And the like may be gathered from that Synod Acts 1. and Acts 6. where these universall guides of the whole Christian World to wit the Apostles were and did exercise Jurisdiction by ordaining of Officers and though instances of these could not be given in Scripture there is a morall ground and warrant for it 1. Because joynt power of Jurisdiction are surer and better then a lesser and dispersed power For if the Keys be given to the Church visible not to this or this little Church as meetting in a private House Acts 2. 46. Acts 20. 8. The division or union of this power the extension of it must be squared by the rule of most convenient edification and it cannot stand with edification if it be given to one Congregation onely The God of nature for conserving humane societies hath given the power of government originally not to one but to a multitude for one onely is not in danger to be wronged and oppressed in a society but a society is in this danger therefore hath God given this power to a multitude and a multitude is the formall object of policy and government and cannot but be dâ—ssolved where Lawes and Government are not So the God of Grace must have given a power of government to a society and multitude of little Churches for a multitude of Congregations is a multitude and therefore this society and consociation cannot subsist except Christ have provided a supernaturall government for it It is not reasonable that some say a morall institution is not an institution for Magistracy is both morall and a Divine institution that God have a certaine day for his service is both morall and also a Divine institution all institutions are not meerly positive as some suppose such as is that the last day of the week be the Sabbath that Bread and Wine be signes of Christs Body brâ—ken and his Blood shed for us So supposing that Christ have a visible Church it is morall that shee have power of government also in so farre as shee is a Church Yea power of government upon this supposition is naturall or rather con naturall so by the same ground upon supposall that Christ have in a Nation a multitude of consociated Churches who for vicinity may either edifie encourage comfort and provoke â—re another to love and good workes they submitting themselves to the Lawes of Christs policy or may scandalize one another as many consociated Churches in Galathia were bent to bite devâ—ure and consume one another Gal. 5. 15. it is morall yea and con-naturall that they be under a Divine policy externall Nor is it more agreeable to the Wisdome of Christ that a multitude of consociated Churches in one Land should be left to the Lawes of nature and Christian brother-hood and be loosed from all Lawes of externall policy then that the just Lord who intendeth the conservation of humane societies should leave every man to the Law of nature and not give them a power to set up a Magistracy and to appoynt humane and civill Lawes whereby they may be conserved And I thinke we should all say if God had appoynted every great Family yea or every twenty Families in the World to be independent within it selfe and subordinate to no civill law to no power to no Magistracy without that independent little incorporation that God had not then appoynted a power of civill Policy and civill Lawes for the conservation of mankind and the reason should be cleare because in one Shire Countrey Province and Nation there should be a multitude to wit ten hundred ten thousand independent Kingdomes subject to no Lawes nor civill policy but immediately subordinate to GOD in the Law of nature and when these ten thousand should rise up and with the Sword devoure one another and one society independent should wrong another the onely remedy should be to complaine to God and renounce civill communion with such Societies that is traffique not with them doe not take or give borrow or lend buy or sell with them but it is unlawfull to use any coercive power of naturall or civill reparation to compell them to doe duty or execute mercy and Judgement one toward another now seeing grace destroyeth not nature neither can there be a policy independent which doth contradict this maxime of naturall policy acknowledged by all in all policies civill naturall supernaturall God intending the conservation of societies both in Church and State hath subjected all Societies and Multitudes to Lawes of externall policy but so it is a Multitude of little Congregations is a Multitude and a Society Then it must follow that government of independent little bodies under no coactive power of Church censures must want all divine institution and so be will worship For these it shall be easie to answer the obloquies of some saying that a nationall Church under the New Testament is Judaisme Hence say they a nationall Religion a nationall Oath or Covenant is like a World-Church a Church a huge body as big as the Earth and so if some Augustus should subdue the whole VVorld to himselfe with the Sword Hee might compell the VVorld to bee
Congregation as set over them by the Holy Ghost as they are set over their owne Parish to whom they be onely Pastors having Ministeriall power by a Church Covenant and the peoples Ordination as our Brethren teach 2. Manuser Those over whom saith our Authour we have no power of censure over those we have no power to dispense the communion Now if we should censure any such for drunkennesse or other scandals who are not of our Congregation it should be a non habente potestatem an act done by those who have no power Answ. The major proposition by your owne Doctrine is clearely false for you say your selfe Strangers sojourning with us members of other Churches knowne not to be scandalous are admitted to the Lords Supper yet can you not excommunicate strangers sojourning for a time falling in scandals For First to you they are without how then can you judge them as you say Secondly You have by the holy Ghost no ministeriall power over them as over your owne flocke as you expone Act. 20. 28. Thirdly You looke aside at excommunication for those of other Churches consociated in a classe we doe lawfully excommunicate and censure for excommunication is not a cutting off of a person from one single Parishionall Church onely as you imagine but a cutting off of a person from all the visible Churches consociated first because he is delivered to Satan and his sin is bound in heaven in relation to all the faster Churches and is so to be esteemed and not in reference to the one single Congregation whereof he is a member Secondly all are to be humbled and mourne for his fall and to consent he be cut off and not one single Congregation onely Thirdly all consociated Churches shall be leavened by keeping Church-fellowship with such a lumpe Fourthly all are to repute him as a Heathen and a Publican Fifthly all are to admonish him as a Brother 2 Thessalon 3. 15. Sixthly all are to forgive him and receive him in Church-communion if he shall repent and occasionally to edifie him as a brother The Seales of righteousnesse of faith saith the Author are not seales to the faithfull as such but as they are joyned together and consederate in some visible Church none but in a visible Church may dispense the seales in the Oâ—d Testament none were partakers either of the Passeover or of Circumcision unlesse they were either Israelites borne or proselytes in the Church of Israel We read not that Job and his friends though righteous through faith were circumcised nor would they have omitted to speake of Circumcision as of a pertinent evidence of the corruption of mans nature of which they speake much the Sacraments saith this same Author are not given to the invisible Church nor to the members thereof as such but to the visible particular Churches of Christ and to the members thereof therefore the seales are not to be givento those who are of no particular visible Church Answ. 1. The Seales of the Covenant are principally given to the invisible Church as the Covenant it selfe in Gods decree of election is especially made with the elect and such as shall never fall away as is cleare Jer. 31. 37. Jer. 32. 40. Esay 54 10. Heb. 8. 9. 10. and the invisible Church as such as a number of beleevers have onely right before God to both Covenant and seales yea and consequently are onely Christs body and Spouse and redeemed Saints and so onely have all the power of the keyes and the ministeriall power of dispensing the Seales and by our brethrens doctrine the visible Church not as visible but as the true body Spouse and Bride of Christ so as the invisible company of the redeemed ones have the Seales and Covenant and so all Ministeriall power of Christ is given unto them 2. It is true the orderly and Ecclesiasticke way of dispensing the Seales is that they bee dispensed onely to the visible Church but this visible Church is not one parish but all professing the faith of Christ though they be not joyned in one visible parish by one Church oath as the Author meaneth for the Saints in Scripture as Cornelius the Eunuch the Jaylor did professe and visibly evidence their faith and so that they were capable of the Seales by desiring to be saved and saying What shall we doe to be saved by trembling at the Word of God by asking the meaning of the Word of God which expressions are in many not in-churched to particular Congregations not did the Apostles aske if they were members of one parish before they baptized them but if they beleeved in Christ. 3. Whether Job his friends Melchisedeck Lot and others the like were circumcised we need not dispute but that they were not circumcised because they were not in a visible Church estate with Abraham is a question and uncertaine and therefore not sure to be a foundation of new opinions in Church Government but though it were granted it followeth not because none were circumeised but Abrahams seed and all and onely Abrahams seed were circumcised therefore none are to be baptized but those who are members of one particular Congregation Alas this is a weakâ— consequence rather it followeth all borne of Jewes were circumcised Ergo all borne of Christian parents are to be baptized and we see not but sacrificing was restricted to the visible Church no lesse then Circumcision yet Job sacrificed to God Job 1. and Chap. 42. The Author addeth The difference here is The circumcised in Israel might rightly keepe the Passeover amongst themselves because the whole nation of Israel made but one Church and the officers and ministers of any one Synagogue and the Priests and Levites were ministers in â—â—mmune of the whole house of Israel in proportion whereunto they that are baptized in any particular Church may in like manner require the Lords Supper if there be no other impediment in regard of their unfitnesse to examine themselves which is a thing requisite to receive the Lords Supper more then was required to receive the Passeover But now because the Churches of the new Testament are of another constitution then the nationall Church of all Israel baptisme in one Church doth not give a man right to the Lords Supper in another unlesse the Officers of the one Church were Officers of all as in Israel they â—erâ— or unlesse that one Church and the Officers thereof did recommend their right and power to another Answ. 1. It is true in the one Church of Israel there was something typicall that is not in our Churches as one Temple â—â—e high Priest one place of sacrificing one Priesthood one Aâ—ke c. but this was peculiar to Israel as such a specifice Church and typiâ—ied also the externall visible unitie of the whole visible Church of the new Testament in professing one Lord one Faith one Baptisme one externall communion and government externall de jure but this agreed not to
the Church of Israel properly as a Church for as a Church of a nation they might convene and assemble themselves in one nationall Assembly to reforme Religion to renew a nationall Covenant to turne away a nationall judgement to make nationall acts that they should seeke the Lord God of Israel and put away strange wives Deut. 29. 2 Chron. 15. 12 13. Nehem. 10. and this is morall yea naturall to a number of Churches united in one nation and no wayes typicall 2. The proportion betwixt Israel and a parishionall Church is questioned the Author beggeth what is in question for it is evident that in Gods Word there is a visible Church of many Congregations associated in many visible acts of government 3. If the Church of Israel and the Churches of the New Testament be of different constitutions as Anabaptists Arminians and Socinians teacheth we shall try I affirme that the Constitution in matter and forme was one with the Christian visible Church 1. Our brethren bring arguments from the constitution of the Church of the Jewes that for matter they were a holy people a royall generation for forme they were united in one Church-state Covenant-wayes as they prove from Deut. 29. 2. Separation from sinne and the wicked world but not from the worship of God was commanded to them Psal. 26. 5 6. Esay 52. 11. 2 Cor. 6. 7. Levit. 26. 11 12. Communion with the wicked was forbidden to Israel 2 Chron. 19. 2. 2 Chron. 30. 6. but communion in worship both in the Synagogue and Temple was commanded to them 3. That God required not morall preparation in them for eating the Passeover as he doth in us before wee eate the Lords Supper I conceive to bee an untruth 1. Because not to prophane the holy things of God and not to take Gods Law in their mouth and to hate to be reformed Psal. 50. 16. not to sacrifice with bloody hands Esa. 1. 11 12 c. Psal. 50. 8 9 10. Esa 66. 1. was morall and did bind and oblige the Jewes as they doe us and 2 Chron. 30. 6. The postes are sent to gather the people to the Passeover charging them to turne to the Lord God of their fathers not to be like their fathers and it is cleare by Hezekiabâ— prayer ver 18 19. Good Lord pardon him that prepareth his heart to seeke the Lord God of his fathers though he be not cleansed according to the purification of the Sanctuary vers 20. And the Lord hearkened and healed the people Ergo there was required a preparation of the heart for the right eating of the Passeover besides the typicall and ceremoniall preparation Yea God counted the ceremoniall preparation voyd of the morall preparation but abomination as Esa. 66. 1. Esa. 58. 3 4 5 6. and Josiahs Passeover is commended from this 2 Kings 23. 22 as Junius well observeth that none did with such care and zeale as Josiah did prepare the Prâ—esâ—s the people and himselfe for the passeover in removing all Idâ—latry and abominatiâ—n and in renewing their Covenant and resolutiâ—n vers 3. To walke after the Lord and to keepe his Commandements with all their heart and with all their soule 4. The uncleane and uncircumcised in heart were no more members of the true and invisible Church of the Jewes and of Christs mysticall body his Spouse his royall generation then Sodom and Gomorrah Esa. 1 10. then the Ethiopians Amos 9. 7. then Ammon and Moah Jâ—r 9 25 26. as in the New Testament and the true invisible Church amongst them as amongst us were Kings and Priests unto God Exod. 19. 5. 9. Psal. 149. 1. as we are 1 Pet. 2. 9 10. Rev. 1. 5. 5. Amongst them no man could invade the Priests office or runne unsent no more then under the New Testament Heb. 5. 4. 1 Tim. 4. 22. though they were to rebuke one another Levit. 19. and they had sacrifices for sins of ignorance Levit. 4. 27. 2. The place seemeth not to want difficultie how many sacrifices would men offer how often yea while they were going home from Jerusalem which was a long Journey to many they might fall in these sinnes of ignorance and as Master Paget noteth there was no dispensation for this Law yet when Abraham travelled three dayes to Mount Moriah from Beersheba in the South and some of the Tribes Northward would bee al 's farre distant it would be seven dayes journey to many therefore the Text is if be sinne 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in ignorance or through ignorance that is meerely of ignorance as when a man in drunkennesse killed a man he shall offer a trespasse offering for it the Jewes call it in their Language 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 timgnol magnal for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 megnal signifieth Pallium if he sinned with a cloake casten over his eyes and Weemes said the sinnes were done of ignorance not ignorantly or the word in the Hebrew is vel notificatum fuerit ei peccatum ejus when the conscience is wakened and convinced and he can finde no rest let him offer sacrifices And a third step was excommunication and casting out of the Synagogue after the captivity which are the very degrees of our Church censure They answer Israel had civill government which we have not I answer Deut. 17. 9. He that will not hearken to the Priest that standeth before the Lord to minister or unto the Judge even that man shall dye He saith not Hee that hearkeneth not unto the People 2. They say they could not in Israel forgive one anothers sinnes as we doe in the New Testament Answ. It is a divine Law in the Old Testament they were to forgive even their enemies Prov. 20. 22. c. Robinson saith No Church hath the absolute promise of the Lords visible presente which that Church then had till the comming of Christ Gen. 47. 10. and 17. 7. Exod. 19. 43 44. It was simply necessary that the Messiah should be borne in the true Church 3. In their deepest apost asy God shewed them some signes of his presence by raising up some godly King Priest or Prophet Answ. That they had Prerogatives above us is cleare Rom. 3. 1 2 3. Rom. 9. 4. and that in other respects farre more excellent wee have Prerogatives above them is as cleare 2 Cer. 3. 7 8 9. Matth. 13. 16 17. So one Christian Church have Prerogatives above another but the essentiall constitution of the Church of the Jewes and ours is one 1. They were a roâ—aâ—d Priest-hood a People holy to the Lord the Covenant made with them as with us 2. To them one little Leaven leavened the whole lumpe 3. Separation from sinne and Idolatrous worship was commanded them as it is us 4. Amongst them none who hated to be reformed were to take the Law of God in their mouth But to returne to our Author it is a false ground that one that is Baptized in one Church hath not right to the
absurd the Communion shall onely be of Pastorall acts as Christian acts but in no sort betwixt them as Pastorall acts 5. The Scriptures for this opinion are weak Ergo the opinion it selfe is weake I prove the antecedent Act. 20. 28. feede the flocke over which the holy Ghost hath made you overseers c. there is no ground to feede even by Preaching or by vertue of a gift these flockes over which the holy Ghost hath not set you Obey them that are over you in the Lord Heb. 13. 17. c. there is no warrant to submit to other Pastors that are not over you in the Lord though they command by vertue of a gift not by vertue of an office or calling these be loose consequences 6. All reciprocation of mutuall duties amongst sister Churches whereby they exhort rebuke comfort one another must be unlawfull for these be Church acts and this Author saith The office extendeth no further then the calling but there is no calling of Church-membership betwixt sister-Churches and therefore all these duties are not acts of the Communion of Churches as they are such Churches or incorporations in a Church-state but onely duties of Churches as they are Saints but communion of Churches as Churches in the act of Church-dispensing of the Word and Seales reciprocally one to another is not in the Word of God as this opinion will inferre which is a weighty absurd 7. The Authors of this opinion hold That if the Congregation for no fault reject the Pastor whom they once called and elected to â—e their Pastor though in so doing they sinne and reject God in rejecting him yet they take nomen esse the name and nature of a pastor from him yet say they hee still remaineth a Minister of Christ till he accept a call from another Congregation Hence 1. such a one is a Pastor and yet the people have taken name and nature of a Pastor from him as they gave him name and nature Ergo he is either a Pastor without a calling which is absurd or he remaineth a person in relation to another flocke who never choosed him nor gave him any calling 2. To adde by the way if he be capable of a calling to another Church Ergo for the time he is no Minister else they must say he may be a Minister capable of two callings to two sundry Ministeries which yet maketh him a Pastor not in relation to one single congregation onely It is true they object that the Apostles Matth. 18. were commanded to preach to all Nations but Pastors are not so now but are commanded to feed the flocke over which God hath appointed them Act. 20. 28. but it is as true the Apostles were commanded to preach to all Nations in opposition to the charge that the Prophets of old were to speake to the people of Israel onely and the Apostles Matth. 10. forbidden to preach to the Samaritans and Gentiles and it is as true that Gods Spirit limited the Apostles to Preach to Macedonia not to Bithynia now because this particular direction for places is wanting in the Church it is certaine that a man is yet a Pastor in office in relation to as many as Gods hand of providence shall send him unto though he be chosen by a people to feed ordinarily one determinate flocke and though he be not an extraordinary and immediatly inspired planter of Churches or the first planter as were the Apostles yet is he a Pastor in relation to all And if this be not said 1. It were simply unlawfull for Pastors now to plant Churches and spread the Gospell to those nations who have not heard it because all Pastors now are ordinary and none are immediatly inspired Apostles but it is certaine what the Apostles did by an extraordinary gift as such immediatly called pastors it is unlawfull for ordinary Pastors to attempt to doe as to attempt to speake with tongues and to plant Churches by speaking with tongues and confirming it with miracles is unlawfull Papists as Bellarmine Suarez Acosta ascribe this to the Pope and his Apostles Our Divines answer that the Apostles that way have no successors But what the Apostles did by an ordinary pastorall gift as to preach the word administrate the Sacraments to erect and plant Churches by ordinary gifts where the Pastors can speake to the Churches by an ordinary gift in their owne language they are oblieged both within and without the Congregation to preach as Pastors because where God giveth gifts pastorall to pastors he commandeth them to exercise these gifts else they digge their Lords talent in the earth but God giveth to Pastors pastorall gifts to preach to others then their owne Congregation and to administrate the seales to them also and to plant Churches Ergo it is presumed that the Church doth give authoritie and an externall ministeriall calling to the exercise of these gifts 2. It is an unwarrantable point of Divinitie that the Apostles and the Pastors succeeding to them doe differ essentially in this that Apostles might preach as Pastors to more Congregations then one and might plant Churches but pastors succeeding to them may not as Pastors preach to more Congregations then their owne and may not planâ— Churches for then planting of Churches now were utterly unlawfull because it is certaine there be no Apostles on earth and it is not lawfull for a Pastor yea nor it is lawfull for any other gifted person to doe that which is essentiall to an Apostle and agreeth to an Apostle as to an Apostle It is then unlawfull for our brethren seeing they be not Apostles to plant Churches in India Nor is that comparison to be regarded much A Magistrate or an Alderman of a Citie may not lawfully exercise his office of Magistracie in another Citie whereof he is not a Maior and therefore a Pastor cannot preach ex officio as a Pastor in another Congregation whereof he is not a Pastor nor can he exercise discipline in another Congregation then his owne seeing another Congregation hath not by voluntary agreement oath or paction submitted themselves to his ministry nor chosen him for their Pastor For I answer the comparison halteth and doth not prove the point for by one and the same act the citie hath chosen such a man both for to be a Magistrate and to be their Magistrate and have given him thereby authority over themselves onely so he cannot exercise the office of a Magistrate over another Citie who hath not chosen him to be their Maior or ruler But the flocke doth not both call such a man in one and the same act to be a pastor and to be their pastor but hee is made by the laying on of the hands of the Elders a Pastor and a Pastor in relation to all to whom God in his providence shall send him to speake the Congregation by election doth give him no authority pastorall but onely appropriate his pastorall authoritie to themselves in particular
Jewish entry in the visible Church Gen. 17. 13. It being the Covenant of God in the flesh the uncircumcised being commanded to be cut off from Gods people v. 14. 4. This is according to the Scriptures and the doctrine of the fathers Augustine Cyrill Basilius Tertullian Hieronymus Theophylact Theodoret Ambrose Cyprian who constantly so teach so doe our Divines Calvin Beza Buâ—nus Pareus Piscator Anton. Wallaeus Tilenus Kickermanus So Zanchius Polanus Sihrandus Rivetus Fennerus Whittakerus Raynoldus Willetus and the professors of Leyden 〈◊〉 Our Brethren say it is the opinion of the Anabaptists that the Church is made by baptisme and Papists have the same conceit and therefore place their Font at the Church doore to signifie mens entry into the Church by baptisme but we beleeve not that baptisme doth make men members of the Church nor to be administrated to them who are without the Church as the way to bring them in but to them that are within the Church as a seale to confirme the Covenant of Grace to them Answ. 1. Anabaptists deny that any ought to be baptized while thy come to age and while they beleeve and be regenerated and they say not farre from your selves in this who teach it to bee absurd to put a blanke seale upon a falshood and so you presuppone all to be regenerated and truly within the Covenant before they can be sealed to be within the Covenant by baptisme and yet you do not think all Infants of beleeving parents to be regenerated and truly within the Covenant then is the seale blanck Also you say baptisme is not to be administrated to those who are without but onely to those who are within the Church you meane not within the Church by profession for Infants have no profession and you say the Sacrament cannot be put on a blanke or a falshood Ergo you thinke all that are baptized ought to be within the Church really and not in profession ouely Ergo they must all come to age and beleeve before they can be baptized 2. We say not that baptisme maketh a Church mysticall and the true and lively body and Spouse of Christ but that it is a seale confirming us of our entry in the visible Church 3. The placing of the Font at the Church doore as a mysticall signe of our entry in the Church is an Antichristian ceremony of mens devising which wee disclaime 4. If Infants baptized must bee within the Church before they can be baptized how deny you to receive them to the Lords Supper when they come to age while they bee againe by your Church-oath received within the Church then are they both within the Church because they are baptized and without the Church because they are not received in by your Church-oath againe 5. If baptisme be a seale of grace to confirme the Covenant of grace to those who are within the Church that is onely a single Congregation for you deny that there be any visible Churches in the New Testament save these onely then are persons baptized persons and confirmed in the Covenant of grace onely within a single Congregation I would know if baptisme should not then be repeated and reiterated in every ones person as they come to a new Congregation for they are confirmed in the Covenant of grace by baptisme onely in one single Congregation as you teach Their second and third reason is Baptisme and all ordinances are priviledges given to the Church so it maketh not the Church but the Church is before baptisme and all ordinances the use also of baptisme is to be a seale of the Covenant now a seale is not to make a thing which was not but to confirme a thing which was Answ. 1. The Church is indeed the Church mysticall and the invisible body of Christ before baptisme but this proveth not but baptisme is a seale of our entry in the visible Church for if this be a good argument your Church-covenant which to you is an ordinance of God falleth to the grrund for persons are the true Churches of Christ before all the ordinances of Christ Ergo by your Church-covenant men doe not become Christs visible Church 2. The argument hath no feet for the ordinance of preaching the Word is a priviledge of the Church and ordinance of God yet is not the Church before the preaching of the Word for birth is not before the seed but the seed before the birth the preaching of the Word is the seed of the Church 1 Pet. 1. 23. and a meane of gathering the Church Rom. 10. 14. and it is also a priviledge of the Church for hee dealeth not so with every nation to send his Gospell to them Psal. 147. 19 20. 3. When you say that a Seale doth not make a thing that was not but confirme a thing that was while you would seeme to refute Papists who vainely teach that Sacraments doe confeâ—re grace ex opere opâ—rato by the deed done yet doe you make the Sacrament but a naked signe and take part with Arminians and Socinians whose very arguments in expresse words you use for Socinius goeth before you in this argument and so doth Smalcius follow him 〈◊〉 and sealing there is required the trying of the thing and some â—â—â—hing or document but that ceremony a baptisime and that rite though it bee â—â—ly doth nothing to the remission of sins but it doth onely shadow out and as it 〈◊〉 delineâ—ue and point forth remission of sinnes by the washing of water â—xpâ—ned in the Word of God You say Sacraments 〈◊〉 make a thing that was not but confirme a thing that was before you can have no other meaning then to deny all cansalitie and all reall exhibition of grace in the Sacraments for if a Sacrament make not a thing that was not before or if God give nâ—t and really produce conferre and exhibite grace and a stronger measure of faith and assurance of remission of sinnes at the due and right use of the Sacrament the Sacrament is a naked signe and not an exhibitive Seale But if Christ give and in the present exhibit as surely remission of sinnes as the infant is washen with water as our Divines and the Palatinate Catechise teacheth yea and the confession thereof and the Synod of Dort teacheth then by the Sacrament of Baptisme a thing is made that which it was not It is true a civill seale as I said before addeth no new lands to the owner of the Charter but if Christ by his Seales rightly and in faith used doe not onely confirme grace and pardon but also really exhibite and give grace and pardon in a further degree and a new measure of assurance to the conscience which there was not before you goe not a streas breadth from Arminians and Socinians especially seeing Episcopius Henricus Welsingius saith that remission of finnes is not sealed by
unto the Church was as the profession of a publike person receiving him and his children who could make no profession but by his mouth unto the Church so his violation of his profession by a scandalous criâ—â— was as a publike violation thereof for himself and his seed who stand or fall before the Church in his name and his person Answ. 1. It is true Christ giveth right to baptisme to the child by the Fathers right I distinguish that by the nearest father onely I deny by the right of fathers in generall true but then it will follow that no infant is to be debarred from baptisme for the sinnes of his nearest parents for if these who are descended of Abraham and David many generations upward from them were within the Covenant and so had right to circumcision for the Covenant made with David and Abraham and the nearest fathers sinne is not the cause of taking away the right to the Covenant from the child and right to the Church Communion 2. I much doubt if the child have right to the seales of the Covenant for the faith of the father and so I deny that hee loseth right to the seales of the Covenant for the fathers scandalous crime which is a violation of the Covenant I doe reverence grave and learned divines who speake so Oecolampadius and Zuinglius say that Insants are sanctified by their parents faith but I conceive they take the word faith objectively for the doctrine of faith profeffed by the father and not subjectively But I think that great Divine Beza saith well that no man is saved by another mans faith nor can the parents faith be imputed to the children which is no lesse absurd nor to say that one man liveth by the soule and life of another man and that he is wise by the wisedome of another man how then are Infants within the Covenant for their parents I answer for the faith of their fathers that is for the Covenant of their fathers they have right to baptisme for that I will be thy God and the God of thy seed Galat. 3. 8. comprehendeth all the beleeving Gentiles And for this cause the children of Papists and excommunicate protestants which are borne within our visible Church are baptized if their forefathers have beene found in the faith and I thinke the reason is given by Doctor Morton who saith The children of all Papists Anabaptists or other Hereticks are to be distinguished from the children of Turkes and Pagans because the Parents of Papists and Anabaptists have once beene dedicated to Christ in baptisme and the child saith he hath onely interest in that part of the Covenant which is sound and Catholike while as the parents themselves stand guiltie of heresie which by their owne proper and actuall consent they have added unto the Church And I thinke the Scripture saith here with us that the nearest parents be not the onely conveyers and propagators of federall holinesse to the posteritie Psal. 106. 35. They were mingled with the heathen and learned their workes 36. and they served their Idols c. 44. Neverthelesse he regarded their affliction 45. and he remembred for them his covenant What Covenant His Covenant made with Abraham and yet their nearest fathers sinned v. 6. We have sinned and our fathers v. 7. Our fathers understood not thy wonders in Egypt they remembred not the multitude of thy mercies but provoked him at the Sea even at the red Sea v. 8. Neverthelesse be saved them for his names sake His name was the glory of the Covenant made with Abraham by which his name and truth by promise was ingaged Esa. 63. 10. But they rebelled and vexed his holy Spirit therefore hee was turned to bee their enemy and hee fought against them v. 11. Then he remembred the dayes of old Moses and his people saying Where is he that led them and brought them out of the red Sea So also Esay 51. 1 2 3. and most evidently Ezek. 20. 8. They rebelled against me c. But I wrought for my names sake that it should not be polluted before the heathen among whom they were in whose sight I made my selfe knowne unto them in bringing them forth out of the land of Egypt Now this name is to be expounded his Covenant Jerem. 31. 32. which he made with them when hee brought them out of the land of Egypt which Covenant is extended unto the Christian Church Heb. 8. 8. 9 10. Now if God gave right unto the sonnes of the Jewes I meane federall right to temporall deliverance and the meanes of grace for the Covenant made with Abraham though their nearest parents rebelled against the Lord that same Covenant in all the priviledges thereof indureth yet yea and is made to all the Gentiles â—al 3. 8. Heb. 8. 8 9 10. for it is the covenant nationall made with the whole race not with the sonnes upon the condition of the nearest parents saith as is cleare after Christs ascension unto heaven Act. 2. 39. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are afarre off even to as many as the Lord our God shall call Now it is cleare that their fathers killed the Prophets Matth. 23. 30 31 32 33 34 35. they were a wicked generation under blood v. 37. 2. It is cleare that these externally and in a federall and Church profession have right ecclesiastick to the Covenant to whom the externall calling of the preached Gospell doth belong while he saith the promise of the Covenant is made to as many as the Lord our God shall call so the called nation though the nearest parents have killed the Prophets and rejected the calling of God Matth. 23. 33. 34. 37. is the nation which have externall and Church-right to the promises and Covenant and Rom. 11. 28. As concerning the Gospell they are enemies for your sake but as touching the election they are beloved for the fathers sake now their nearest fathers maliciously opposed the Gospell therefore it must be for the election of the holy nation in which respect the nation of the Jewes v. 16. was a holy seed and a holy root and the children were also the holy branches holy with the holinesse of the Covenant and Joshua had no reason to circumcise the people at Gilgal for the holinesse of their nearest parents whose earcasses fell in the wildernesse yet he circumcised them to take away the reproach of his people now this reproach was uncircumcision in the flesh the reproach of the Philistims so Goliah is called an uncircumcised Philistim and of all the nations without the Covenant of God yea by this there were no reason to circumcise the sonnes of Achab and Jezabel whose nearest parents were slaves to Idolatry and who were bloody persecutors of the Prophets nor was there reason to circumcise Jeroboams sonne in whom there was some good for both father and mother were wicked Apostates and very often by
this doctrine should the people of the Jewes leave off to be the visible Church and so the promise of the Covenant should faile in the line from Abraham to David and from David to Christ even so oft as the nearest parents did evill in the sight of the Lord and many times should God have cast off his people whom be foreknew contrary to that which Paul saith Rom. 11. 1 2 3. To these I adde if the infants of the Christian Church have onely right to baptisme through the faith of the nearest parents onely then is this to be conceived either to bee true and saving faith in the nearest parents or onely faith in profession if you say the former then 1. The seed of the excommunicated parents in whom is faith or the seed thereof is to be baptized the contrary of which you affirme 2. Then the seed and Infants of no Parents but of such only as are members of the invisible Church of the first borne are to be baptized the contrary whereof you teach while you say The Sacraments are not given to the invisible Church and the members thereof but to the visible particular Churches 3. The Infants of the unbeleeving parents though members of the visible Church have no right to baptisme and the Covenant though they be the elect of God and borne within the visible Church which is admirable to us now it is knowne that Hypocrites and unbeleeving parents have often such a luster of a greene and fairelike profession as that they goe for visible members of the Church so as their children are by Christs warrant and right baptized I come to the other point if the faith of nearest parents onely true in profession and show before men give right to their Infants to bee sealed with the seales of the Covenant Then 1. apparent and bypocriticall faith conferreth true right to the seales to Infants and there is not required as the author saith Chap. 3. Sect. 3. that the members of the visible Church be the called of God the sonnes and daughters of the Lord God Almighty not onely in externall profession but also in some measure of sinceritie and truth 2. God hath warranted his Church to put his seale upon a falsehood and to conferre the seales upon Infants for the externall profession of faith where there is no faith at all this your writers thinke inconvenient and absurd Also it is objected by us that excommunicates children are in no better case by this doctrine then the children of Turkes and Infidels The Author answereth We willingly saith he put a difference excommunicates are nearer to helpes and meanes of salvation and conversion then Turkes 1 Cor. 5. 5. because excommunication it selfe is a meane that the spirit may be saved and Turkes are nearer then Apostates who turne enemies to the truth for better never have knowne the way of truth then to turne backe But in this they agree they are all of them as Heathen Matth. 18. and therefore neither parents nor children have right to the seales Answ. This is not an answer for the Infants of excommunicates though they be the seed of ancestors as grandfathers who were true beleevers yet as infants and dying in Infancy are no lesse without the Covenant and excluded from the seales thereof by you then the Infants of Turkes 2. The Infants of nearest parents in the Jewish Church though wicked were not excluded from circumcision nor were they in the case of the Infants of the prophane heathen and the same covenant made to the Jewes and their seed is made to us and to our seed Gal. 3. 8. Heb. 8. 9. 10. Rom. 11. 27. 28. Act. 2. 38 39. We also affirme that the Lord extendeth the mercy of the Covenant to a thousand generations and therefore the line of the covenant-mercy is not broken off for the unbeleefe of the nearest parents Our Author answereth Is the extension of Gods mercy to a thousand generations be a sufficient ground to extend baptisme to the Children of excommunicates in the right of their ancestors it may suffice as well to the children of Turkes and Insidels and Apostates for it is not above sixty and six generations from Noah to Christ as is plaine in the Genealogie Luk. 3. 13. and there have not passed as many more generations from Christs time to the Turkes and Infidels of the present age And all will not amount say they in their answers to the summe of two hundred generations The true meaning is that God out of his abundant and rich mercy may and doth extend thoughts of redeeming and converting mercy and grace unto thousand generations but he never allowes his Church any warrant to receive unto their Covenant and communion the children of godly parents who lived a thousand yeares agoe much lesse a thousand generations nay rather the Text is plaine 1 Cor. 7. 14. that the holinesse of the children depends upon the next immediat parents to wit upon such faith as denominateth them beleevers in opposition to Pagans and Infidels and that holinesse to the children is called federall which receiveth them unto the Covenant and seales thereof Answ. 1. We stand not on the number of a thousand precisely nor doth the holy Ghost intend that for as it is usuall in Scripture a definite number is put for an indefinite Wrath followeth the Ammonite and Moabite to the tenth generation Deut. 23. 2 3. and the Edomite and Egyptian though cursed entereth into the Congregation of the Lord the third generation v. 7. 8. The Lord here walketh in a latitude yet so as the mercy of the Covenant is extended to more generations a thousand for foure beyond the anger of God to the generation of the wicked nor doth the Authors consequence stand good that then wee had right and warrant to baptize the children of Turkes Pagans and Indians as for one single Apostate I account him as one single excommunicate Christian in this point because the Lords comparison of proportion holdeth in generations of the same kind and is restricted to the generations within the visible Church sheweth mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keepe my Commandements which must be extended to professed love of a nation that is federally holy Now Turkes and Indians are neither lovers of God nor in profession through federall holinesse such and it is most pregnant against such as confine and imprison the mercy of the Covenant towards poore Infants to their next immediate parents and by the Authors interpretation the thousand generations to which God extendeth mercy is confined to one because if the wicked two the father and mother bee violaters of the Covenant though nine hundreth foregoing generations have beene lovers of God yet the Covenant mercy is interrupted to the innocent Infants in this innocent and they are translated over to the classe and roll of the children of Turkes and Pagans under the curse and wrath of God for hundreth of generations
and Paul tooke Titus and Timothy with him often for helping the worke of the Lord. The next Scripture saith Robinson is 1 Pet. 4. 10 11. As every man hath received the gift so let him minister as good stewards of the manifold graces of God if any man speake let him speake as the oracles of God Answ. This saith with us for private Christians are not stewards who gave them the keyes Yea 1 Cor. 4. 1. it is a word of office and it is not given to Ministers not in office as Beza observeth well he setteth downe one generall that the Ministers be ready to distribute and then two species 1 Preaching Ministers that they speake the Oracles of God 2. Serving Ministers Elders and Deacons that they minister out of the habilitie that God giveth them and the place is against private Prophets Robinson alledgeth Revel 11. 3. I will give power to my two witnesses and they shall prophecy a thousand two hundreth and sixtie dayes clothed in sackcloth The Clergie men are not onely witnesses against the Antichrist In the Antichrists raigne no Church officer aâ— anâ— officer witnesseth against him but all for him as both having their authority from him and binding themselves to submit their doctrine to his censure The persons indeed that were officers even Masse-Priests Monkes and Friers witnessed some of them against him but so did not their office something was extraordinary I acknowledge in respect of the then prevailing order and in respect of their degree of gifts and graces but no extraordinary and miraculous gift of prophecying and Brightman exponeth the two witnesses to bee the holy Scriptures and assemblies of the faithfull Answ. The two witnesses saith Junius are the Ministers for number few and for place contemptible so saith Couper and Paraeus induceth many paires of witnesses as in Bohemia John Hus and Jerome of Prague An. 1415 1416. in Saxonie Luther and Melancthon in Argentine Bucer and Cariton in Helvetia Zwinglius and Oecolampadius in France Farell and Calvin and these were Pastors in office We need not stand upon the number of two but because two is the least and fewest number the witnesses were two But first there is no reason to fetter and restrict the Text to witnesses and Martyrs out of office excluding the Ministers and Prophets in office and to inferre thence that gifted persons in a constitute Church are the ordinary Ministers of conversion 1. These two witnesses did prophecie in the midst of Popish Babylon where God had no visible Church They did upon a particular exigence being called thereunto as the Martyrs of Christ to give a witnesse for Christ against Antichrist and they sealed the truth with their blood but the consequence is null a Martyr at the stake though no Pastor may give a confession of his faith to the persecutors as Stephen did Therefore a gifted person not in office may ordinarily preach in the Church I would not buy such logick with a rotten nut 3. Many women were witnesses and Martyrs and gave a testimony against Antichrist Ergo women may preach in the Church what vanitie is this 2. Also if those witnesses had an extraordinary measure of gifts and graces to beare witnesse to the truth it followeth not Ergo Christians gifted with an ordinary measure of the Spirit are ordinary Prophets for the conversion of soules 2. Though these witnesses were only unofficed Prophets yet the prophecying ascribed to them after they arose from the dead will not inferre that unofficed Prophets are ordinarily to preach for the rising againe of slaine Prophets is not to be exponed of the raising againe of the persons of unofficed Prophets to preach but it is to be exponed of the rising againe of the buried Gospel which in the ministery of faithfull Pastors and in other new Martyrs Pastors and others arose againe from the dead with the Spirit and power of these Martyrs and that buried truth that was in former times persecuted by Antichrist did now revive againe to the wondering of Babylon for the intent of the Spirit is to show that the Gospel and true Church slaine and buried shall arise againe within a short time as three dayes and a halfe 4. It is vaine that he saith none of the Clergy witnessed and prophecied against Antichrist he is not versed in the Churches history who teacheth so for Monkes and Fryars were Ministers though their office unlawfull and as Ministers of Christ. Luther Melancthon and thousands other gave testimony against Antichrist Robinson addeth Revel 14. 6. Where an Angell flyeth in the midst of heaven that is in the visible Church having the everlasting Gospell to preach to them that dwell on the earth and to every nation and kinred That is God raised men in the midst of popery not miraculously inspired for you can show me no such who preached the Gospel not by vertue of an office The office of a Friar Monk or Massâ—-Priest is no ministery of Christs appointment and when they gave their clearest testimony they were almost all excluded out of Rome and so in respect of their personall gifts and graces they were Angels of God in respect of their office they were Angels of Antichrist Answ. 1. There is no reason to reject the interpretation of Junius that this Angell was a type of the servants of God who opposed Popery after the times of Bonifacius the eight as Cassiodorus the Italian Arnoldus de villa nova Occam Dante 's Petrarcha Ioannâ—s de Rupe the Franciscan Wickliff And Pareus refers the type to Wickliffe Marsilius Patavinus Petrarcha Our country man Napper exponeth it of Luther Melancthon and Calvin in the seventh age Anno 1541 and it is false that they were all excommunicated and though the accident of their office to be a Monke a Fryar was Antichristian yet the ministery it selfe was of Christ and by it they did preach against Antichrist as they did validely baptize for I hope they did not baptize as unofficed Prophets Lastly this Angel did not preach in the visible Church but in the midst of Popery and therefore doth not prove it is lawfull in a true visible constituted Church for gifted Prophets out of office to bee ordinary Preachers Robinson much urgeth the place 1 Cor. 14. 1 Because the Apostle speaketh of the manifestation of the gifts and graces common to all as well brethren as ministers ordinary as extraordinary 2. Hee speaketh of the fruits common to all edification exhortation and comfort compared with 1 Thess. 5. 11. 14. and of that which at all times remaineth amongst the Christians to wit love Answ. The cohesion of this Chapter with the former is cleare charitie should be followed because so excellent Therefore cover gifts which are most conducing to love and edification and that is to prophecie he proveth excellencie of prophecying above others and teacheth in this Chapter the right ordering of publick Church meeting Now Robinsons Argument is
or any where in the which all the people did actually judge rule and command and so was meerely popular But the Word of God giveth a reall superiority to the Pastors and Church guides over the people in the Lord as Jer. 1. 10. So I have set thee this day over the Nations and over the Kingdomes to roote out and to pull downe and to destroy and to throw down to build and to plant here is a reall authority given to Jeremiah onely by his office of his prophecying without any power of the seales or sacrificing or judging or governing which was the part of the Tribe of Levi of which Tribe Jeremiah was not Matth. 10. v. 40. He who receiveth you receiveth me Luke 10. 16. He that heareth you heareth me he that despiseth you despiseth me and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me John 13. 20. 2 Cor. 10. 8. For though I should boast something of the authority which the Lord hath given us for edisication and not for your destruction I should not be ashamed 1 Cor. 4. 1. Let a man so account of us as of the Ministers of Christ and of the Stewards of the mysteries of God John 20. 23. Whose soever sinnes yee remit they are remitted and whose sinnes yee retaine they are retained 2 Cor. 5. 18. And he hath given to us the word of reconciliation 20. Now then wee are Ambassadours for Christ 1 Cor. 12. 28. And God hath set some in the Church first Apostles secondly Prophets c. Eph. 4. 11. And he gave some Apostles c. 1 Thes. 5. 12. And we beseech you brethren to know them which labour among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you Heb. 13. 17. Obey them that have the rule over you and submit your selves for they watch for your soules as they that must give an account Acts 20. 28. Take heed therefore unto your selves and to all the flocke over which the Lord hath made you Overseers to feed the Church of God which he hath purchased with his owne bloud 1 Pet. 5. 2. Feed the flock of God which is among you taking the over-sight thereof not by constraint c. 1 Tim. 3. 2. A Bishop then must be blamelesse c. 4. One that ruleth well his owne house c. 1 Tim. 5. 17. Let the Elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour v. 21. 28. 2 Tim. 2. v. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Tit. 1. 9 10 11. 2. The Lord in his house putteth a difference betwixt the Feeders and the flocke the Governours and the governed those who are over the people in the Lord and those who are under them in the Lord the Overseers and Watchmen and the City over which they watch the Stewards and the family therefore there must be a peculiar authority in those who are Elders 3. The flock is to obey heare follow in the Lord to have the Elders in high estimation to submit to their doctrine to receive them as Christ Ergo some authority they must have 4. The Lord hath given to them an over-sight Act. 20. 28. and hath committed to them a ministery 2 Cor. 5. 15. hath put them in his worke and ministery 1 Tim. 1. 12. 5. God will seeke an account of the bloud of the lost at their hand Ezech. 3. 20. Heb. 13. 17. and God giveth a reward for the discharge of their office 1 Pet. 5. 4. 2 Tim. 4 8 Matth. 24. v. 45. 46. Ergo they must have a place of authority over the people which the people have not 6. The proportion betwixt the priesthood in the Old Testament and the ministery of reconciliation which is more excellent and glorious 2 Cor. 3. 7 8. requireth the same Now the Lord in a peculiar manner choosed the Tribe of Levi Deut. 33. 8 9. Esay 52. 11. Num. 3. 12. v. 45. ch 8. v. 6. Separate the Levites to me ch 18. 23. Josh. 3. 3. 1 Chron. 15. 2. Josh. 14. 3. 8. But let our Author speake what peculiar authority or what singular acts of authority are due to the Elders above the people The Church saith he exerciseth severall acts of authoritie over the Elders 1. In calling and electing them to office and ordaining them in defect of the Presbytery I answer 1. Calling and electing are not to be confounded electing is no act of authority but that the people calleth and ordaineth the Elders wanteth example in the word of God and therefore the Author addeth that the people ordaineth the Elders in defect of their Presbytery that is where there is no Presbytery then in case of extraordinary necessitie and where the Church is not constituted they are to ordaine the Elders but in a Constitute Church the power of ordination is in the Presbytery Ergo ordinarily the people doe not exercise this authoritie over the Elders 2. The Church of beleevers saith the Author sendeth forth the Elders for the publick service of the Church as the whole Church of Jerusalem sent forth chosen Ministers with letters of instruction to Antioch and to other Churches Act. 15. 22. Now the Ambassadour is not greater then he that sent him but usually inferiour Joh. 13. 16. Answ. 1. I deny not but a Church of beleevers in the least Congregation is greater then any Pastor or number of Pastors as they are such for the Pastors are servants for the Church and meanes for the end and lesse and inferior in respect of Christian dignity but this is not the point wee doe not now dispute of Christian dignitie one redeemed soule in that respect is of more worth then a thousand Pastors as they are but meere Pastors but because the Church sendeth the Elders the Elders are a part and a great part of the visible Church which also send themselves but it proveth not the Peoples Church authority as they are contradistinguished from Elders to be superior and above the authority of Elders for here the comparison must not be betwixt one or two Elders and the Church including all the people and the rest of the Elders but the comparison is betwixt spece and spece the office and dignitie and authoritie of the Elders as Elders and the people as people and the Church of Jerusalem was not a Parishionall but a Presbyteriall Church consisting of many Elders and Congregations now we deny not two Elders to be inferior in authoritie to the whole Colledge of Elders and people and so there is no authoritie of the people above the Elders from this proved 2. Morton answereth Papists in the like argument that sending proveth onely that those who are sent are not superiors to those who sent them for the Father sent his Sonne into the world 3. Saith the Author if an Elder or a whole Eldership erre the Church may call him or them to account and in case of obstinacie excommunicate them for it is not reason that Elders should want the medicine of excommunication to save their soules
the Pastoes and Elders as such have the keyes not but as they are beleevers and a part of the mysticall body but as they are Pastors and Elders they have not received the keyes at all by our brethrens doctrine yea as Elders or officers they are not parts of the Church but onely adjuncts and ornaments thereof For the second to wit the execution of the censures of the Church if they doe it as Pastors and by vertue of their office execute the sentence of the Church as Pastors they are meere servants of the Church not collaterall Judges with the Church and are not as the Judge who doth direct the Jury for the Jury doth only cognosce of the fact but hath no judiciall power to pronounce the sentence or discerne the qualitie of the punishment nor can the Jury at all discerne any punishment But the Judge cognosceth both of the Law and the fact and authoritatively pronounceth sentence but the Elders have no authoritative power in directing the people to pronounce or not pronounce the sentence or what sentence to pronounce or what censure to inflict for if they have this authoritative power then we seeke Scripture to warrant this power 2. The Elders must then have the keyes in a more emminent manner then the people or Church of beleevers so all bee but blanke and emptie titles given to Elders hitherto Fiftly saith the Author The Elders have power to dismisse the people or Church and that with a blessing Numb 6. 23. to 26. which is an act of seperioritie Heb. 7. 7. An. This is but an emptie title also For 1. The Pastoronly one dismisseth Doctor Elders Deacons and the whole Congregation and so one is a Pastor of Pastors and an Arch-Elder of Elders hath authority by this over his fellow Elders and candismisse them therefore there is nothing peculiar in an officiall power here to the whole presbytery above the people 2. A majority or superioritie is one thing and a power of jurisdiction is another Blessing of the Church at their dismission is nothing but a prayer of the whole Church the Minister being mouth who blesseth all and is no act of superioritie of jurisdiction or power of the keyes of which wee now dispute And you cannot thinke that to obey those who are over you in the Lord and submit to them as it is Heb. 13. 17. is nothing but to receive a dismissory blessing from the Pastor And I much doubt if the Priests blessing of the people Numb 6. was morall and if it was not typicall hee not taking in himselfe but as a type of Christ pronouncing the whole visible Church blessed sorypifying Christ our Priest in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed Gal. 38. 14. And do not the people pay the Pastor home in his owne coyne for you make the Church of beleevers to ordaine their owne Elders and to lay hands upon them and blesse them so you teach 3. Nor is dismissing of the Church an act of authoritie or of officiall power for your preaching and unofficed professors may dismisse as well as they may publikely pray and preach 2. A dismission is agreed upon by the Church before hand and floweth from the nature of all publike meetings 3. Ejusdem est potestatis congregare dimittere caetum congregatum you know to conveene Christs Courts authoritatively is due to no man on earth the Church hath an intrinsecall power of herselfe to conveene being the Court of the Lord Jesus and so also to dissolve and this is the usurped power that the Antichrist taketh to himselfe to conveene the generall councells as Bellarmin Suarez Pighius and Cajetanus teach us Sixtly our Author saith In case of Apostasie of the Church or other notorious scandals or obstinacie thereof their Elders have power to denounce the judgement of God against the Church and withdraw themselves from it As upon the Idolatry of the Israeliâ—es Moses tooke the Tabernacle and pitched it without the camp Exod. 33. And Paul with Barnabas rejected the Jewes for their blasphemy and turned to the Gentiles Act. 13. 45 46. Answ. Here be two diverse things sewed together to make up one thing 1. to denounce the judgement of God is one thing 2. to separate from the Church is another thing the former is an act of authoritie being rightly taken the latter is an act of no authoritie But for the first to denounce judgement on a visible Church and that with a separation is â— nothing but an act of Pastorall teaching and so no act of officiall power of governing in the Elders above the Church is brought in all these six and so yet the difference betwixt the feeders and the fed the shepheards and flocke the watchman and the citie or the people who are to submit and obey these who are over them in the Lord who rule well is close everted and all the Churches are turned masters feeders governors rulers for Elders have no officiall authoritie by our brethrens doctrine which is not in the Church of beleevers 2. To denounce judgement to an Idolatrous and obstinate Church who by their Apostasie do declare themselves not to bee Christs body is a Pastorall act of Pastors exercised on those who now leave off to be Churches and this is to play the Pastors to that which is not a flocke and as unlawfull as for a husband to exercise the actions of a husband to one who is not his wife 3. To separate from an obstinate Church is by you thought lawfull to all private Christians who would not defile themselves with the pollutions of the Church how then do you make it an authoritative act of ruling Pastors 4. For Pastors to remove the Gospell and preach no more to an obstinate Church is not nor can it in reason be that wherein wee are to submit and obey those who are over us in the Lord. My reason is we are to be agents at least for most part in submitting and yeelding our selves to those who in teaching and governing are over us in the Lord because they watch for our soules But in their separating from us and removall of the Gospel wee are meere patients and cannot be agents 5. Moses his removall of the Tabernacle and Paul his turning from the Jewes was by another spirits warrant then Pastors now a dayes can dare to remove themselves and their Ministery from a visible Church for Paul turned from the Jewes for their universall Apostasie blasphemy and opposing of the maine and principall foundation of the Christian faith to wit that Christ Jesus came in the world died for sinners rose againe and ascended to heaven c. The 4. case to wit of any particular scandall or scandals and of obstinacie therein cannot bee the like ground for Elders to separate from a Church and never preach the Gospel againe to them CHAP. 6. SECT 1. Of communion of sister Churches amongst themselves I Here bee seven wayes saith
the Author by which wee leepe the communion of Saints in divers Churches 1. By way of participation 2. Of recommendation 3. Of consultation 4. Of Congregation 5. Of contribution 6. Of admonition 7. Of propagation or multiplication of Churches It is allowed by the consent of our Churches that when the members of any other Churches are occasioned to rest with us on the Lords day when the Supper commeth to be administred and neither the persons themselves nor the Church they came from under any publick offence they bee by us admitted to the participation of the Lords Supper for wee looke at the Lords Supper not onely as a seale of our communion with the Lord Jesus but also of our communion with his members and that not onely with the members of our owne Churches but of all the Churches of the Saints and this is the first way of communion with other Churches to wit by participation Answ. 1. We heartily embrace the doctrine of the communion of Saints but many things are here which are incompatible with your doctrine as first communion of Churches which you call a branch of the communion of Saints cannot consist with your doctrine for a Church by you is relative onely to the Eldership of a Church as sonnes are relative to Fathers but a Sonne is not relative to a brother so neither is a Parishionall Church properly a Church in relation to a neighbour Church for a Church hath no Church-state no Church-priviledges no Church-worship in relation to a sister-Church therefore you should say the Communion of Christians of sister-Churches not the Communion of Churches for no Church by your doctrine hath any Church-state or Church-worship in relation to any but to its owne members 2. This enumeration is defective you make a Communion of Churches in the members of sister Churches in the Lords Supper though the members of neighbour Churches bee not inchurched in Church-state by oath as a member of that Church where hee partaketh the Lords Supper and why should not the Child of beleeving parents in the death or absence of the Pastors of neighbour Churches have communion with you in baptisme also for this communion in baptizing you deny to any but those who are members of that Church wherein they receive baptisme 3. if you admit communion of Churches in some things to wit in the Lords Supper how can you deny communion of Churches in other holy things of God for you admit no communion of Churches in the power of the keyes as in mutuall counselling warning rebuking binding and loosing for Christ hath left no common power of the keyes in many visible Churches who are united together in an Iland or Nation or Continent by which these acts of communion should bee regulated and in case of neglect and abuse censured according to Gods Word as you say for you deny all authoritative power in Synods let me bee resolved deere brethren in this how Christ hath put whole Churches and their soules in worse case then members of your independent Congregations are for the keyes of the kingdome of heaven in binding and loosing in excommunicating that the spirit may bee saved in 〈◊〉 day of the Lord the removing of scandalls out of sister parishionall kingdomes of Christ the gaining of sister Churches from heresies and scandalls as brethren are to bee gained Matth. 18. 15. 1 Cor. 5. 5. 1 Tim. 1. 30. by censures the keeping of the holy things of God from profanation authoritative rebuking warning that others may feare and that the rebuked may bee ashamed and all these meanes of salvation are denied to your particular Congregations as if they were Angels and Popes who cannot be lacking in duties and yet all these are granted to members of any one particular Church how hath the care wisedome of Christ denied these meanes to many united Churches and yet you acknowledge that sister Churches have communion amongst themselves and that seven wayes in visible acts of externall communion I beleeve this one argument though there were no more doth strongly conclude the lawfulnesse of Synods and by consequent the Law of nature would say if Christs wisdome provide wayes to regulate the publike actions of the members of a particular Church that they may be edified and builded up in the most holy faith farre more hath he taken care for many Churches united in a visible communion seven wayes that Lord that careth for the part must farre rather care for the whole body 4. You say members of other Churches are admitted to the Lords Supper amongst you by consent of your Churches but what consent doe you meane is the consent authoritative by power of the keyes 1. This consent authoritative is either concluded in a Synod of many Churches and so you acknowledge the authoritative power of Synods if it be done and agreed upon in every particular Church by them alone then I aske seeing to administer the Lords Supper to any and so to make in your Church meeting that it shall be administred to any is as you teach an act of ministeriall power over those to whom you administer the Seale chap. 4. Sect. 5. Now how doe you exercise acts of ministeriall power or conclude ecclesiastically to exercise these acts in your parishional meeting toward those over whom you have no ministeriall power for members of neighbour Churches are under no ministeriall power in your particular Church as you teach in the same place as you can exercise no power of the keyes when some are absent that is tyranny upon the conscience saith Answorth who will have none censured or excommunicated except the whole congregation be present also he who of another Church communicateth with you 1. Hath no faith of the lawfull calling and choosing your Ministers for he neither could nor ought to be present thereat 2. He knoweth not but he may be leavened by a scandalous lumpe which leaveneth the whole Church and is enough as you say chap. 4. Sect. to hold any from communicating in the Seales with any Church Now these and many other things he must take in trust from you which Answorth thinketh tyranny of conscience neither can a letter of recommendation make one of another congregation capable of Seales with you for to dispone is to alienate and give away the ministeriall power of the Seales to another Church Now this power say you chap. 5. Sect. 4. is a part of the liberty wherewith Christ hath made you free and so you cannot dispone it to another Church except you bring your selfe in bondage contrary to Gal. 5. 1. 5. Mr. Best and your selfe bold that a Pastor can exercise no pastorall act but over his owne flocke and you say that the Scripture saith so Act. 20. 28. 1 Pet. 5. 2. Ergo either to administer the Lords Supper is no pastorall Act and may be done by non-Pastors as Arminians and Socinians destroying the necessity of a ministery doe averre or then a
or Church assembly have any power to bind the Churches to obedience because these commandements and decrees of censure are but ministeriall and limited and in so farre onely of force as they have reason from the Word of God as you say 3. Conclusion There is an authoritative power in Synods whereby they may and doe command in the Lord the visible Churches in their bounds the whole Churches are subject to the ordinance and decree of the Church Act. 1. where with common consent of a Synodicall meeting Matthias is ordained an Apostle Ergo all the Churches are to take him for an Apostle This argument cannot bee repelled because the Apostles by their extraordinary power did choose Matthias Because 1. they themselves cite this place to prove the peoples power ordinary which is to indure to Christs second comming in calling and electing their owne officers and Elders 2. Almain a Papist alleadgeth the place with good reason to prove that a generall councell is above Peter or the Pope because Peter would not choose Matthias without consent of the Apostles and Church 3. If this was extraordinary that Matthias was chosen why then is the vow and consent of the Church sought for there is nothing extraordinary and Apostolick flowing from an Apostolick spirit which is concluded or done by the spirit ordinary of the Church of beleevers So also Act. 6. If the Apostles did not by the ordinary and Synodicall power of ordinary Pastors choose seven Deacons how doe they first require that the Churches of Grecians and Hebrewes should seek out seven men v. 3. and did ordaine them with the common consent of the whole multitude v. 5. Act. 15. A Synod of moe Churches give decrees which obliege the Churches v. 28. ch 16. v. 4. Ergo Synods have authoritie over the Churches Those who say this Synod is not a patterne for after Synods say farre aside for their reason is this was 1. An Apostolick Synod 2. the holy Ghost was here 3. the thing determined was canonick Scripture But this is a way to clude all the promises made to Pastors in the word when as they are first made to Apostles this promise Behold I am with you to the â—nd of the world and this I will send you the other Comforter who 〈◊〉 lead you in all truth cannot bee made to faithfull Pastors and the Christian Church that now is for it is certaine Christ is otherwise present with his Apostles then with his Pastors after them And that he gave them a tongue a spirit when they were before the councels and rulers as to Apostolick men as Act. 4. 8. 9 10. Act. 5. 29. as Christ promised Matth. 10. 19. 20. Luk. 21. 13 14 15. for they were full of the holy Ghost before rulers but by our brethrens doctrine it shall follow none of these promises belong to Pastors now adayes in the like because no pastors now are Apostles Surely this were to fetter and imprison many glorious promises within the pale of the onely Apostolick Church and because Christ ascending to heaven sent downe the Apostolick spirit to his Apostles to write and preach canonick Scripture it shall follow he fulfilleth that promise John 16. 13. to none now adayes because none have the Apostolike spirit in the manner and measure that the Apostles had Yea further it is canonick Scripture that the Apostles at the last supper did shew forth the Lords death till be come againe therefore it shall follow that we have no warrant to shew forth the Lords death till he come againe 2. But that the Apostles in an ecclesiastick way did determine in the Synod for our imitation and not in an Apostolike way is cleare by many evidences in the text as Act. 15. 2. Paul and Barnabas were sent commissioners to the Apostles and Elders about this question Paul as an Apostle needed not be sent to know more of the matter then he knew as an Apostle for as an Apostle he knew the whole mystery of the Gospel Gal. 1. 16. 17. Ephes. 3. 4 5. Ergo he was sent to the Synod as a Pastor and that as an ordinary Pastor 2. They came together v. 6. to consider of this businesse but as Apostles they needed not the help of a Synod Ergo they came together as ordinary Pastors for the Churches after imitation 3. There was much debating and disputing v. 7. about the matter 4. They set down their minds and sentences in order one after another as Peter first v. 7. 8. then Barnabas and Paul v. 12. then James v. 13. and to James his sentence the whole Councell agreeth v. 22. Now what the Apostles as Apostles and from an infallible Spirit do they doe it not by seeking light and help one from another 5. The Decree of the Councell is a thing that Apostles Elders and Brethren and the whole Church resolveth after much dispute v. 22. But all these especially brethren and the whole beleevers as our Brethren say doe not joyne themselves with the Apostles either to write canonick Scripture or to give their consent to the writing of it therefore they doe consent by a synodall authority for the after imitation of the Churches Also there bee reasons of moment for Synods and 1. if according to the Law of nature and nations no man can bee a Judge in his owne cause then are appeales from the Eldership of one congregation when they are a party to the accused person naturall and from a Session to the Presbyteries and Synods of many moe Elders But the former is reason nature Law of Nations Ergo so is the latter 1. It is best reason which hath most of Scripture Paul and Barnabas Act. 15. 1. 2. had no small disputation with those who said circumcision was necessary finding their parties could not be Judges They appeale to a generall councell at Jerusalem where were the Apostles and Elders The Church of the Grecians and the Church of the Hebrewes strive neither of them can judge other and both appeale to a higher judicatory to the twelve Apostles and their owne Churches meeting with them and there is the matter determined aâ—ent helping the poore by Deacons if the Judge doe wrong and one particular congregation shall oppresse one sincere and sound beleever what remedy hath the care of Christ provided for this that the oppressours may be edisied by Church censures and the oppressed freed and delivered by remedy of discipline of Christ whose it is to judge the poore of the people and to save the children of the needy Ps. 72. 4. Now it is knowne that Diotrephes doth sometime excommunicate and the evill seâ—vant ruleth all Hieronymus saith Arrians ruled all in the dayes of Constantius and Valens Basil saith we may say in our time that there is neither Prince nor Prophet nor Ruâ—â—â— nor oblation nor incense Athanasius and Vincentius Lirinent complain'd that it was in the Arrians times as with the Church and Prophets in the
plant soules who were non-converts and branches of the wild olive in Christ Jesus and to make new visible Churches but it is certaine that the Apostles as Apostles and as Pastors by vertue of their office converted obstinate sinners to the faith of Christ and planted them in a visible Church consisting of professors of the faith partly converted partly not converted but the pastors by your doctrine have no power as Pastors or by any Pastorall authoritie to plant the Gospell where it hath never beene that pastorall spirit is dead with the Apostles and in this contrary to all reason and sense and contrary to the Scriptures you make private Christians the successors of the Apostles to plant Churches and to convert soules and to make them fit materialls for the visible Church of regenerate persons for Pastors as Pastors and visible Churches as visible Churches doe nothing at all to the multiplying of Churches seeing Pastors and visible Churches as they are such by your doctrine are but nurses to give suck to those who are already converted but not fathers to convert them for private Christians or pastors as Christians gifted to prophesie not as Pastors doe multiply Churches and convert men to Christ as you teach now wee all know that nurses as nurses doe not propagate or by generation multiply people in the Common-wealth that fathers and mothers onely can doe your Churches have no ministeriall breasts but to give suck to babes who are already borne but wee see by your doctrine no ministeriall power of Pastors or Churches to send forth members to enter in a Church covenant or to enter in a new Church relation of a daughter or a sister visible Church if they send a number to bee a new Church your Pastors or visible Church did not multiply them it is presumed they were converts before they were members of the visible Church which now sendeth them out and if they bee multiplied in the bosome of your visible Church and converted they were not truely members of that visible Church before their conversion and also that they were not converted by any publike ministery but by private Christians gifted to prophesie who are the onely successors of the Apostles to plant visible Churches but what pastorall authoritie have you to send them forth to bee a new visible Church none at all they have as beleevers power to remove from you and because of multiplication to make themselves a new Church and this ministeriall power of making themselves a new Church they have not from you but from their fathers who converted them so that you make a visible Church within a visible Church but not a Church begotten or borne of a visible Church as a child of the mother and wee desire a word of God either precept promise or practise of such a Church multiplication mans word is not enough 2. Wee hold that the sending of the Apostles to all the world was not in it selfe that which essentially distinguisheth the Apostle from the now ordinary Pastor who is fixed to a single Congregation but the gift of tongues to preach to all the world upon the Lords intention to send the Gospel to all nations that as many as were chosen to life might beleeve was that which essentially differenceth the Apostle from the ordinary pastor together with a speciall revelation of God to goe to such and such people to Macedonia and not yet to Bythinia And now seeing these two are taken away the ordinary Pastors which now are have as Pastors a sufficient calling to preach the Gospel to all nations to whom by Gods providence they shall come and can understand their language whether of their owne Congregation or not Neither is a Pastor tied as a Pastor by Gods Word to one onely Congregation for then it should bee unlawfull for a Pastor as a Pastor to plant a new Church but shall it bee lawfull for private Christians to plant new Churches who are not the Apostles successors and yet it shall bee unlawfull for Pastors who are the undoubted successors of the Apostles to plant new Churches I would think that admirable doctrine for so you give to private Christians that which you make essentiall to the Apostles and you deny it to the undoubted successors of the Apostles to wit to Pastors But we hold a lawfull Pastor is a Pastor in relation to all the world with this distinction hee is by Christs appointment and the Churches a Pastor to all congregations to plant and water and preach but by speciall designation of Gods providence and the Churches appointment designed and set apart for such a determinate flock just as the Apostles in generall were made Pastors to all the world Matth. 28 19. Go teach all nations but by speciall revelation and Apostolick appointment Peter was appointed the Apostle of the Jewes Paul of the Gentiles Gal. 2. 9. yet Paul was a Pastor in relation to the Jewes and Peter also in relation to the Gentiles so by speciall revelation Act. 16. they are forbidden to preach the word in Bythinia and commanded to preach it elsewhere and for this cause pious antiquity as Morton observeth called some learned fathers Pastors of the World Athanasius is saluted Pontifex maximus as Russinus saith and Origen magister ecclesiâ—rum master of the Churches so Hieronymus and Cyprian totius orbis praeses Cypâ—ian the Bishop of all the world yea and Pope so Nazianz. Hilarius is called by Augustine insignis ecclesiae doctor a renowned teacher of the Church and Nazianzenus calleth Basilius the light of the word and Damascenus the light of the whole world and Theodoret saith Chrysostome is called totius orbis terrarum doctor the Doctor and teacher of the whole world all which titles saith evidently that antiquitie beleeved never a Pastor or Bishop not to bee a Pastor onely in relation to the one single Congregation whereof hee is Pastor but a Pastor in relation to the whole visible Church though by designation of the Church his ministery bee appropriated to one particular Church Thus it is cleare that our brethren deny all communion of Churches while they confine a visible Church to one onely single and independent Congregation subjected in its visible government to Christ Jesus immediatly and to no universall visible Church or Synod on earth Quest. II. Whether the Magistrate hath power to compell persons to a Church profession Anent Magistrates sundry things are questioned to make presbyteriall government odious And first our brethren complaine that our Churches are constitute by the authoritie of the Magistrate Robinson saith it was a presumptuous enterprise that people were haled against their will into covenant with God to sweare obedience to the protestant Faith being a profane multitude living before in grosse idolatry and that by the authority of the supreme magistrate for the commandement of the magistrate say they can make no members of the visible Church or of
bestoweth lawfull Kings and Magistrates upon many Nations who know nothing of a Saviour I answer When I consider the point more exactly I see not how Kings who reigne by the wisdome of God Jesus Christ Prov. 8. 14. 15. have not their kingly power from Christ who hath all power given to him in Heaven and in Earth Matth. 28. 18. for they are Nurse-fathers of the Church as Kings Esa. 49. 15. they are to kisse the Sonne and exalt his Throne as Kings Psal. 2. 11. they bring presents and kingly gifts to Christ as Kings Psal. 72. v. 10. 11. and they serve Christ not onely as men but also as Kings as Augustine saith therefore are they ordained as meanes by Christ the Mediator to promote his kingly Throne Some of our Divines will have the kingly power to come from God as Creator in respect God giveth Kings who are his Vicegerents to those who are not redeemed and to Nations who never heard of Christ and others hold that the kingly power floweth from Christ-Mediator in respect he accomplisheth his purposes of saving of his redeemed people by Kings authority and by the influence of their kingly government procureth a feeding ministery and by their princely tutory the edification of his body the Church which possibly both aime at truth See the groundlesse carping at Cartwright Calvin Beza and others by that sharp toothed envier of truth the Author of the Survey of holy discipline of this hereafter more 4. Conclusion The King as King hath not a nomothetick or legislative power to make Lawes in matters ecclesiastick in a constitute Church nor hath he a definitive sentence as a Judge 1. All power of teaching publikely the Church or the Churches of Christ is given to those who are sent and called of God for that effect but Magistrates as Magistrates are not sent nor called of God to the publike teaching of the Church Ergo. The proposition is cleare from the like Rom. 10. 14. How shall they preach except they be sent Ergo how shall they publikely and synodically teach except they be sent Heb. 5. 4. No man taketh this honour upon him but he that is called of God as was Aaron c. Ergo if none be a Priest to offer a Sacrifice without Gods calling neither can he exercise the other part of the Priesthood to teach synodically to give out 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 decrees Acts 16. 4. that obligeth the Churches ecclesiastically but he who is called 2. Who so hath nomothetick power to define and make Lawes in matters ecclesiastick have onely a ministeriall power to expone Christs will in his Testament under paine of Church-censures and hath no coactive power of the sword to command these Lawes enacted and to injoyne them on the Churches But onely Church-men who are formally members of the Church as Pastors Doctors Elders and others sent by the Church have this ministeriall power without the coactive power of the sword and what ever the Magistrate as the Magistrate commandeth he commandeth it in things ecclesiastick necessary and expedient under bodily punishment I adde this because threatning of bodily punishment is not essentiall to Lawes in generall because some Lawes are seconded onely with rewards as the Judge offereth by law a reward to any who shall bring unto him the head of a Boar or of some notorious robber Ergo c. The proposition is cleare the learned Junius giveth to the Magistrate with our Divines an interpretation of Scripture as a Judge which concerneth his owne practise they are interpreters pro communi vocationis modo in a Christian way as private men but they have no power of ecclesiastick interpretation 2. Gul. Apollonius saith the Prince as a Christian hath an office to exhort the Svnod by word or Epistle as Constantius did the Fathers of the Nicen Councell and his Legates exhorted the Councell of Chalcedon ut Deo rationem reddituri See Ruffinus and the acts of the Councell of Chalcedon 3. The Magistrate hath a power judiciall as a Magistrate in so farre as his owne practise is concerned to expone the things defined but this expotition he useth non instruendo synodice non docendo ecclesiastice sed docendo seu potius mandando cum certa relatione ad paenam à brachio seculari insligendam contemptoribus not in an ecclesiasticall way teaching and instructing synodically but teaching or rather commanding with a certaine relation to civill punishment to be inflicted upon the contemners as he teacheth what is just or unjust in his civill Lawes not directly to informe the mind but to correct bad manners and this maketh the object of kingly power about Churches matters and the object of ecclesiasticall power formall objects different 3. Those who have a nomothetick power to define in Synods are sent by the Church to Synods with authoritative commission and power for that effect representing the Church which sent them as all who are sent with any ambassage doe represent those who sent them But Magistrates as Magistrates are not sent to represent those who sent them with authoritation commission of the Church Ergo they have no such power â—â—dâ—ine in Synods I prove the proposition from the Apostles practise Paul and Barnabas were sent as chosen men by the Church 〈◊〉 Antioch Acts 15. 2. 3. Acts 15. 6. the Apostles and Elders came from the Church to consider of this matter Acts 21. 18. Acts 22. 17. 〈◊〉 2 Cor. 8 17 18. if the Apostle with the Church sent Titus 〈◊〉 Brother whose praise is in the Gospel as chosen of the Churches to travell with us v. 19 in gathering the charity of the Saints for the poore at Jerusalem then by the like those who are sent to declare the minds of the Churches are also clothed with the authority of the Churches who sent them but Magistrates aâ— such are not sent but are there with the sword of Common-wealth and not with the mind of the Church as Magistrates except they be also Christians 4. The Apostolike Synods is to us a perfect patterne of Synods but persons defining in them are Apostles and Elders Acts 16. 4. Acts 15. 6. the Church Matth. 18. 18. defineth and 1 Cor. 5. 4. those who are conveened in the name of the Lord â—esus and the Apostles pastorall spirit those who are over us in the Lord and watch for our soules 1 Thes. 5. 14. Heb. 13. 17. but in these Synods there are no Magistrates yea there was at Câ—rinth a Heathen Magistrate 1 Cor. 6. 1. and in the Apostolike Church a persecutor Acts 22. 1 2 3. c. And the Magistrate as the Magistrate is not a member of the Church and is neither Pastor Elder nor Doctor nor a professor of the Gospel except he be more then a Magistrate 5. No Ecclesiasticall power or acts formally Ecclesiasticall are competent to one who is not an Ecclesiasticall person or not a member of the Church but a civill person
assigned of God to them though the lesse disâ—ractâ—ous the wages bee the better and the more convenient they are 2 Tim. 2. 3. 4. 5. As for the tithes wee thinke quotta decimarum or a sufficient maintenance of tithes or what else may conduce for food and raiment of divine right Matth. 10. 16. 1 Cor. 9. 8 9. tithes formally as tithes are not necessary so the Ministers bee provided and a stipend bee allowed to them not as an almes but as a debt Luk. 10. 7. But the stinting of maintenance for Ministers the author condemneth because when Constantine gave large rents to the Church it proved the lane of the Church But I answer stinting maketh not this but excesse for mountaines of rents may bee stinted no lesse then mole-hills In the first proposition Pastors are to bee chosen of new in England though they have beene Pastors before and that by the imposition of the hands of some gracious and godly Christians Answ. Such an ordination wanteth all warrant in the Word of God 2. Why are they ordained over againe who were once ordained already belike you count them not Ministers and baptisme administred by them no baptisme though these same gracious Christians have beene baptized by such and so England hath no Church visible at all and no ministry see what you lay upon Luther and some of our first reformers who had their externall calling from Antichristian Prelates the same very thing which Papists lay upon them 3. If there bee called Pastors in England to lay on hands on Ministers why are not they to impose hands on such as you judge to bee no ministers because possibly the Prelates laid hands upon them seeing you grant Chap. 5. Sect. 9. where there are Presbyters to lay on hands it is convenient that ordination should bee performed by them I confesse I am not much for the honoring of the Prelates foule fingers yet can they not bee called no Pastors no more then in right wee can say Caiaphas was no High Priest Proposition 6. Hee willeth Pastors and Doctors and Elders to bee put in the â—â—â—me of Parsons and Vicars Answ. If the offices of Parson and Vicar bee set up it is reason they be abolished but for the names there is not much necessitie of contending though in such cases it bee safer to speake with the Scripture then with Papists the Vicar Generall is indeed the Bishops delegat and a creature to bee banished out of the house of God of whose unprofitable place stile see that learned writer Dâ—â—id Calderwood who findeth him to bee made of the metall of the Popes service base Copper not Gold and the Popish parson is as the Vicar Firewood for Antichrists Caldron In the 12. and 13. Propositions it is said that it is necessary 〈◊〉 Preachers countenanced from King and State were sent to 〈◊〉 to congregations generally ignorant and prophane and till they 〈…〉 measure of gracious reformation as they can testifie their faith and repentance it were meet they should never renew their Câ—â—â—nant made in baptism nor yet have the Seales of the Covenant conâ—â—â—ed upon them but till then they shall lament after the Lord as the 〈◊〉 did when the Arke had beene long absent 1 Sam. 7. 2. Answ. In these Propositions most of all the Congregations of England except some few following the way of independencie of Church government though they bee baptized and professe the truth are brought just to the state of Turkes and Indians willing to heare the Word or of excommunicated persons for they and their seede are to want the Scales their children Baptiâ—me themselves the Lords Supper But 1. how can the 〈◊〉 in ordinary rebukes and excommunication from the Sâ—alâ— bee exercised upon these who are without and no Churche as yet for while they sweare the Covenant they are not Churches 2. It is said godly Preachers must bee sent to them 〈◊〉 thâ—y 〈◊〉 reformed but why not godly Pastors because thâ—ugh these preachers preach unto them yet exercise they no Pastorall care over them because they are not yet a visible Church and flocke and therefore have no more Pastors to care for their soules then Turkes and Indians and Preachers have 〈◊〉 a Pastorall relation to these though baptized and 〈◊〉 Christ then to Indians Jewes or Turkes as our brethren teach a paterne of such flocks is not hard in the word where ordinarily the word is preached to a number of people baptized and yet baptisme denyed to all their seed and the Lords Supper to themselves 3. It is the same Covenant the author speaketh of here with the Church Covenant that 〈◊〉 and Judah made with God and which they say essentially constituteth a Church and hinteth at the Covenant of the Church of Scotland sworne and subscribed by many thousands ignâ—rant and prophane and who never came to such a measure of gracious reformation as they can testifie their faith and repentance yet did this nation right in putting all to sweare and enter into a Covenant with God for Israel Deut. 29. where there was many who had not eyes to see eares to heare and a heart to understand v. 3. 4. and where there were many rebellious and stiff-hearted Deut. 31. 27. entered all of them into Covenant with God Captaines Elders Officers all the men of Israel Deut. 29. v. 10. Little ones wives children hewers of wood c. all which attained not to such a measure of gracious reformation 2 Chron. 15. 9. all Judah and Benjamin and the strangers with them out of Ephraim and Manasseh and out of Simeon entered into a Covenant with God who after such Apostasie could not all have attained to that measure of gracious reformation as to testifie their faith and repentance by prayer conference experiences of Gods wayes in their heart and confession and yet the Author saith that there is no colour to conceive this way of entering into Church estate by Covenant to be peculiar to the pedagogue of the Old Testament 4. Israels lamenting after the Lord 1 Sam. 7. 2. was not the repentance of a people who was not a Church visible but was onely a people to bee prepared for a Church State and not fit to receive circumcision and the passoever as you conceive of the ignorant and prophane in England which to you are no visible Churches for Israel at this time was a true visible Church The rest of the propositions tending to reformation not discussed elsewhere I acknowledge to be gracious and holy counsells meet for a reformation The Lord build his owne Temple in that Land and fill it with the cloud of his glory FINIS a Psal. 47. 9. b Sam. 23. v. 20. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c Omnis sanguis concolor Franc. Petrarch Psal. 84. 11. Revel 12. 1. e 2 Cor. 8 23. a Cassian de incar lib. 1. c. 4. Primum est errores penitus non in currâ—rc secâ—ndum bene repudiare b James 4. 1. The way
not morall nor acts of justice or injustice more then the acts of Painting of sailing of making of Shooes and thus the King is not subject to the Church power nor is his intrinsecall end as King justice and godlinesse and preservation of Religion the man speaketh non-sense and wonders for the King as a King is a morall agent and not infallible in his Lawes or administration Ergo as a King he is under the Scepter of the King of Saints in discipline and in the keyes of the Kingdome of God and so the kingly office is subordinate to the power of Christ in his Ministers and Church discipline and by that same reason the power and offices of Ministers as they are morall agents and obnoxious to sinne to false doctrine blasphemy idolatry idlenesse and sleepinesse in feeding the flock are under the coactive power of the supreme Governour and he doth as King use the sword against them hence it is cleare that both the kingly power is subordinate to Church-power and that the subordination is mutuall that also the Church-power is subordinate to the kingly power and that both also in their kind are supreme the kingly power is the highest and most supreme and under no higher coactive power I meane the kingly as kingly conjoyned with the collaterall power of Parliaments where the Realme is so governed and the Church-power is the highest in the kind of Ecclesiasticall power Joan. Major saith well that they are not subordinate that is not one of them is above another that I grant but that which he and Spalato saith neutri in alteram est imperium that neither of the two hath a commandement over another that we deny yet are they powers in office and nature different for they differ in their objects 2. Use and end 3. And their manner of specifick operations and the Kings power is not ecclesiastick Others say that there was a perfect civill policy having no need of the Church power anent the perfect civill government amongst the Heathen and in Christian Common-wealths the civill power of it selfe and of its owne nature can doe nothing for the attaining of eternall happinesse except we would goe to the tents of Pelagians whither Papists doe lead us while as they teach that the naturall end of civill power of its owne nature and intrinsecally is ordained to eternall happinesse But the civill power of it selfe doth conferre nothing whereby the spirituall power of the Church hath intrinsecally and properly and formally its dignity power strength and proper vertue and doth produce its owne proper effect and end because as saith Spalato the civill Magistrates end is of another republike different from the Church he is head of the Common-wealth and civill body see Apollonius But I answer there is a Policy civill without the Ecclesiasticall Policy and the King is essentially a King though neither he be a Christian himselfe nor his subjects Christians and to the essence of a King and to the essence of a civill government Christianity and a Church-power is not required yet hath the King as King essentially a right and civill coactive power to promove Christian Religion and the edification of Christs body though he be a Heathen the want of Christianity doth not take away his kingly right onely it bindeth up and restraineth the exercise thereof but though he be a King essentially and actu primo while he wanteth Christianity and so is a perfect Magistrate quoad esse and the State that he ruleth over a perfect civill body quoad esse in respect of essence and being yet is he not a perfect Magistrate quoad 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 operari neither he nor his civill State and body are perfect in operations And it followeth not that the King as King can doc nothing about the obtaining of life eternall for as a King he hath a perfect right and kingly power to doe and being a Christian he actually exerciseth that power as a Nurse-father of the Church to see that the Kings daughter be fed with wholsome milke to see that the first and second Table be kept and that men serve Christ and have the seales of the Covenant in purity under the paine of suffering the weight of his royall sword and I wonder that this should be called nothing for the obtaining of eternall happines seeing it is a way to eternall happinesse to be thus fed under a Christian King as a King But say they it is Pelagianism that the Kings power compelling the Nurses to let out their breasts to the Kings daughter that she may sucke the sincere milke of the Word should be a meane of eternall happinesse I answer and it is also Pelagianisme to say that the planting of Paul and watering of Apollos and the ministeriall power and paines of Ministers without the grace of God can produce or effectuate supernaturall happinesse and it is false that the kingly power of it self doth confer nothing whereby the spirituall and ecclesiasticall power hath intrinsecally and formally dignity and power and its proper effect for it is true the kingly power maketh not the ecclesiasticall power but it setteth it on worke in a coactive way for the edifying of Christs body and doth causatively edifie Lastly whereas it is said the King as King is over the civill body and the Common-wealth which is a body different in nature from the Christian body or Church I say that is false for the King as King ruleth over men as men and also as Christian men causing them to keepe both the Tables of Law But 3. say they the office of a King is not a meane sanctified of God for a supernaturall good because it is amongst the Gentiles I answer this is no consequence for that office of it selfe is sanctified and ordained of God for keeping of both Tables of the Law and that it worketh not this in its owne kind is not from the nature of the kingly office but from the sinfull disposition of the Gentiles so the Word is the savour of death to some through their default Ergo it is not a meane sanctified for that end it followeth not But 4. the office of the King of it selfe and its owne power doth not governe or subdue the inward man for immediately and of its owne power it cannot bind the conscience but onely by the interveening mediation of the Word of God Ergo of it selfe it intendeth not to produce a supernaturall and eternall good Answ. Nor can the office of a Minister of it selfe and in its owne power produce a supernaturall good but onely by the authority of the Word Esa. 8. 20. Jer. 23. v. 22. Tit. 1. 9. 10. is it therefore no office sanctified for a supernaturall end But 5. they reason a supernaturall good and life eternall are effects flowing from the mediatory office of Christ bestowed upon the Church but the kingly power floweth not from the Mediator Christ but from God as Creator who